James Burton Tele

mucc · May 20th, 2007, 05:12 PM

1989 James Burton Tele (Red Paisley)

Its used and i got it for like US$2.7k

Just want to find out from Tele Experts whether is it a good buy or im been cheated?

Pic of the Tele

Close Up

Any way to tell that this is a real 1989 issued?

Thx im new here from Singapore.

jwells393 · May 20th, 2007, 05:34 PM

$2.7 ??????. My sources say they weren't produced until 1990. $2.7 is way out of line here in the USA. If you were willing to pay the price ........... can't really say you were cheated.

mucc · May 20th, 2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwells393

$2.7 ??????. My sources say they weren't produced until 1990. $2.7 is way out of line here in the USA. If you were willing to pay the price ........... can't really say you were cheated.

But according to the Serial No. Data..

E9 + 5 digits = 1988-1990

My Tele serial no. is E904783 and made in US..

Jellecaster · May 20th, 2007, 06:03 PM

Brand new one is $1500 with a different paint scheme. I don't know how collectible the old ones are, but only you can decide if the difference is worth $1200 to you... I wouldn't have done it, but that's just MHO.

gtrman911 · May 20th, 2007, 10:31 PM

maybe they have prices like Austrailia?....Oz's prices are waaaaaaay outta wack, too.

mucc · May 21st, 2007, 05:41 AM

Sorry i made a super stupid mistake.. i actually converted wrongly.. its is actually roughly US$1250. So is it still worth it ?

markothefish · May 21st, 2007, 05:45 AM

I think US$1250 is a damn fair price for a nice looking guitar . How does it play ?

Big John · May 21st, 2007, 06:26 AM

Sorry mucc but i really didn't like mine !
The Lace sensors and the way they are fitted (same angle as a Strat) meant it didn't have that Tele 'clang' i was looking for and mine weighed a ton !!
Just my opinion of course, the bloke i sold it too loves it and still plays it.

Wop Geronimo · May 21st, 2007, 06:42 AM

I loved mine, had it for years. But in time I grew bored with it's lack of bite and sent it packin to spain.

john s · May 21st, 2007, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrman911

maybe they have prices like Austrailia?....Oz's prices are waaaaaaay outta wack, too.

How right you are!. some prices here are outrageous.

We have a couple of "Collectors" shops and the prices are a joke especially when some of the guitars are really not that old to warrant the price tag.

Still, there will always be someone that wants their dream guitar.

Different strokes!!!!!

mucc · May 21st, 2007, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markothefish

I think US$1250 is a damn fair price for a nice looking guitar . How does it play ?

I see... I thought so too... it plays very well.. i was hooked for the first time i tried on it.. I love the red paisley design on the body.. it looks super exotic and sexy.. actually i love the Gold Colored one also.. but the Red one is more rare i believe?

This is what they say about the Lace Sensor Pick ups-
Low noise and high output for incredible response and sustain. Fender-Lace™ Sensors continue to be some of our most popular pickups to date. Each color represents a different sound: The Blue is warm and loud like an old 50's humbucking pickup.

I actually agreed with Big John about the layout of the pick ups..it uses the Lace Sensor Pick Ups for Strat.. just a little disappointing regarding the pick ups.. Going to change it to all to Vintage "Noiseless" Tele® Pickups.. But it comes in a set of 2... just wait till i have the cash

gtrman911 · May 21st, 2007, 09:02 AM

i like it
congrats

Buckocaster51 · May 21st, 2007, 09:27 AM

That's a nice looking guitar.

I was hoping this thread would answer the question that has been bugging me for years: Why aren't all James Burton model Red/Pink Paisley like God intended them to be?

jwells393 · May 21st, 2007, 10:13 AM

It seems like sometimes Fender calls in a well known player and says ... "Let's design a signature guitar ............. not like the one you've played for years but completely different". Other examples: The John 5 and the Merle Haggard.

Sarge · May 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM

2007 BlueBook list the J.B.tele at $1000.00-$1200.00, production started in 1990. It appears to be in very good condition, if you like it and it has good tone.....you did good. I don't see these for sale too often so I'd gladly pay $1200 if I wanted one.

mucc · May 21st, 2007, 02:54 PM

But anyway.. i love it ... !

Dayo · May 21st, 2007, 07:21 PM

As a proud owner of a Black/Gold...I say well done Sir !

mucc · May 22nd, 2007, 02:23 AM

Thank You Sir! Anyway the Gold/Black one is also a beauty.. i nearly wanted to get it... ^_^

bluescube · May 22nd, 2007, 11:07 AM

I would change the the pickups like this:

Blue to the bridge (P90 sound)
Silver to the neck (70's strat)Put a Gold in the middle.

Or change all three to Gold Lace Sensors. I love the sounds of them myself.

squeally dan · June 10th, 2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluescube

I would change the the pickups like this:

Blue to the bridge (P90 sound)
Silver to the neck (70's strat)Put a Gold in the middle.

Or change all three to Gold Lace Sensors. I love the sounds of them myself.

I'm wondering if anyone has changed the pickups in a JB tele and how were the results. I got a used black and gold one that looks like it wasn't cared for very well. I like the pickups but some seem much louder than others, and they seem to hum much more than I would expect from the lace sensors.

Tele Jr · June 10th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Those are nice but for a lace equipped Tele I've always preferred the Tele Plus.

squeally dan · June 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM

Cool

del_ · June 10th, 2008, 07:47 PM

I have an older - late 90s - James Burton Standard: alder body, vintage yellow finish, reverse taper neck, and texas special (AlNiCo V) pickups. It's super... though I might put it on the auction block as part of a gear (and fiscal) consolidation plan.

I've only read good things about the three-pickup sig model that Mucc purchased. If you're digging it... then it's a great purchase!

del

Tele295 · June 10th, 2008, 08:21 PM

I had a dream once that I was playing a Gold Paisley Burton with 3 Barden pickups....

AjayTele · June 11th, 2008, 08:40 AM

Not sure if the price in OZ would be that much, but if that's the going rate in Singapore, that's it.

I haven't seen a red one before, so I'm envious. I only have a black/gold one....

squeally dan · June 11th, 2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AjayTele

Not sure if the price in OZ would be that much, but if that's the going rate in Singapore, that's it.

I haven't seen a red one before, so I'm envious. I only have a black/gold one....

I have a black gold one also. How do you like yours? My pickups have a good bit of buzz. Is that typical? I like the sound of the pickups but they seem a little noisy.

AjayTele · June 12th, 2008, 07:38 AM

To be honest, I don't remember how mine sounds. I'm a collector and I usually play a guitar when it arrives to see what it's like and then it will be not played for long periods of time.

I certainly don't remember anything negative about it though, so I can only assume it didn't have any unusual buzzes or anything like that.

telejoe · June 12th, 2008, 09:47 AM

I have the white with gold hardware and it's my number one. It's the best guitar that I have ever played. No pickup buzz here. I like the pickups so much that I have ordered a set of Lace Sensors to go in one of my Strats.

squeally dan · June 12th, 2008, 10:08 AM

I had a tech look at it. He said it isn't a grounding issue. It only hums when I take my fingers off the strings. As long as I hold ahand on the strings it is quiet. I had an old strat with lace sensors and they were real quiet. Thats why this puzzles me. I'm wondering how much some shielding would help. Any opinions?

jimmybusk · June 12th, 2008, 11:47 PM

so, should I throw lace sensors in here??

telejoe · June 13th, 2008, 09:44 AM

I would say yes. That's a mighty fine looking work of art.

The Bestron · June 13th, 2008, 10:05 AM

I think the price is good, especially if it's one of the first models. I wouldn't consider it as a "Tele" since it's more in the league of a non-trem model Strat and teh lace sensors are quite modern sounding - you don't get that "Tele" twang (except if you are Mr. Burton himself, who can probably make a Jackson pointy guitar sound like a Tele... the magic's in his fingers!)

squeally dan · June 13th, 2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmybusk

so, should I throw lace sensors in here??

Thats too cool. I think I just wet myself.

BroadMaster · June 13th, 2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mucc

I see... I thought so too... it plays very well.. i was hooked for the first time i tried on it.. I love the red paisley design on the body.. it looks super exotic and sexy.. actually i love the Gold Colored one also.. but the Red one is more rare i believe?

This is what they say about the Lace Sensor Pick ups-
Low noise and high output for incredible response and sustain. Fender-Lace™ Sensors continue to be some of our most popular pickups to date. Each color represents a different sound: The Blue is warm and loud like an old 50's humbucking pickup.

I actually agreed with Big John about the layout of the pick ups..it uses the Lace Sensor Pick Ups for Strat.. just a little disappointing regarding the pick ups.. Going to change it to all to Vintage "Noiseless" Tele® Pickups.. But it comes in a set of 2... just wait till i have the cash

Save your money and buy a reasonably powered TUBE amp. Fender, Vox,
PIGNOSE, Sovtek, etc., ..... 15-40 watts.

Noiseless in sets of 2 are ok, just look for a used one on ebay for the third.....

maybe even route the middle and put a P-90 in it

you could start a Jonny Lang cover band.

HiggyDude · June 13th, 2008, 02:07 PM

Nice - too bad they don't have the real red paisley model = like when JB played in all those Elvis concerts....

May 20th, 2007, 05:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
mucc NEW MEMBER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 7	James Burton Tele 1989 James Burton Tele (Red Paisley) Its used and i got it for like US$2.7k Just want to find out from Tele Experts whether is it a good buy or im been cheated? Pic of the Tele Close Up Any way to tell that this is a real 1989 issued? Thx im new here from Singapore.

May 20th, 2007, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 65 Posts: 14,522 101 Photos	$2.7 ??????. My sources say they weren't produced until 1990. $2.7 is way out of line here in the USA. If you were willing to pay the price ........... can't really say you were cheated. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" I'm just not cool enough to be a Mac person.

May 20th, 2007, 10:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
gtrman911 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Camelot Posts: 1,312 7 Photos	maybe they have prices like Austrailia?....Oz's prices are waaaaaaay outta wack, too. __________________ My opinion is worth what you paid for it.

May 21st, 2007, 05:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
mucc NEW MEMBER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 7	Sorry i made a super stupid mistake.. i actually converted wrongly.. its is actually roughly US$1250. So is it still worth it ? __________________ My Lousy Equipments Electric Guitars- Fender Telecaster James Burton Series (Red Paisely) Grassroots Les Paul (Black) Ibanez IJX40 (Black) Yamaha APX 6 (Acoustic Sunburst) Pedals- Zoom G7.1ut, Marshall Jackhammer Amplifier- Ibanez15R

May 21st, 2007, 05:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
markothefish Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Greenville, Rhode Island Age: 44 Posts: 2,557 7 Photos	I think US$1250 is a damn fair price for a nice looking guitar . How does it play ? __________________ Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted. Groucho Marx

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Jellecaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 41 Posts: 2,422	Brand new one is $1500 with a different paint scheme. I don't know how collectible the old ones are, but only you can decide if the difference is worth $1200 to you... I wouldn't have done it, but that's just MHO.

May 21st, 2007, 06:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 6,973 39 Photos	Sorry mucc but i really didn't like mine ! The Lace sensors and the way they are fitted (same angle as a Strat) meant it didn't have that Tele 'clang' i was looking for and mine weighed a ton !! Just my opinion of course, the bloke i sold it too loves it and still plays it. __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

May 21st, 2007, 06:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
Wop Geronimo Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Confusion, USA Age: 32 Posts: 553	I loved mine, had it for years. But in time I grew bored with it's lack of bite and sent it packin to spain.

May 21st, 2007, 09:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
gtrman911 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Camelot Posts: 1,312 7 Photos	i like it congrats __________________ My opinion is worth what you paid for it.

May 21st, 2007, 09:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 58 Posts: 8,831 1 Photos	That's a nice looking guitar. I was hoping this thread would answer the question that has been bugging me for years: Why aren't all James Burton model Red/Pink Paisley like God intended them to be? __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

May 21st, 2007, 10:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 65 Posts: 14,522 101 Photos	It seems like sometimes Fender calls in a well known player and says ... "Let's design a signature guitar ............. not like the one you've played for years but completely different". Other examples: The John 5 and the Merle Haggard. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" I'm just not cool enough to be a Mac person.

May 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sarge Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pgh,Pa Age: 54 Posts: 3,552	2007 BlueBook list the J.B.tele at $1000.00-$1200.00, production started in 1990. It appears to be in very good condition, if you like it and it has good tone.....you did good. I don't see these for sale too often so I'd gladly pay $1200 if I wanted one. __________________ A coward dies many deaths, a Soldier once.

May 21st, 2007, 02:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
mucc NEW MEMBER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 7	But anyway.. i love it ... ! __________________ My Lousy Equipments Electric Guitars- Fender Telecaster James Burton Series (Red Paisely) Grassroots Les Paul (Black) Ibanez IJX40 (Black) Yamaha APX 6 (Acoustic Sunburst) Pedals- Zoom G7.1ut, Marshall Jackhammer Amplifier- Ibanez15R

May 21st, 2007, 07:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dayo Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 51 Posts: 171 12 Photos	As a proud owner of a Black/Gold...I say well done Sir ! __________________ James Burton Black Gold Paisley, Aerodyne,CIJ Pink Paisley, CIJ '62 Custom RI, CIJ HM Contemporary, Squire Tele Custom, Squire Affinty, Godin Artisan TC, Melancon P90 Artist, Hohner TE Custom, SX Tele

May 22nd, 2007, 02:23 AM	#18 (permalink)
mucc NEW MEMBER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 7	Thank You Sir! Anyway the Gold/Black one is also a beauty.. i nearly wanted to get it... ^_^ __________________ My Lousy Equipments Electric Guitars- Fender Telecaster James Burton Series (Red Paisely) Grassroots Les Paul (Black) Ibanez IJX40 (Black) Yamaha APX 6 (Acoustic Sunburst) Pedals- Zoom G7.1ut, Marshall Jackhammer Amplifier- Ibanez15R

June 10th, 2008, 07:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
squeally dan TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 65	Cool

June 10th, 2008, 08:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
Tele295 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Latchodrom, CA Posts: 4,171 14 Photos	I had a dream once that I was playing a Gold Paisley Burton with 3 Barden pickups.... __________________ "Turn it up and it doesn't need any reverb." - Danny Gatton www.dannygatton.info Tiger Town Aces - Music That Bites Back In Redd we trust! Free Bill Kirchen! If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and dry cleaners depressed?

May 22nd, 2007, 11:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
bluescube Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Greensboro NC Age: 42 Posts: 1,189 6 Photos	I would change the the pickups like this: Blue to the bridge (P90 sound) Silver to the neck (70's strat)Put a Gold in the middle. Or change all three to Gold Lace Sensors. I love the sounds of them myself.

June 10th, 2008, 12:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
Tele Jr Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 287 10 Photos	Price Seems A Bit High? Those are nice but for a lace equipped Tele I've always preferred the Tele Plus.

June 10th, 2008, 07:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
del_ NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: nc Posts: 7	I have an older - late 90s - James Burton Standard: alder body, vintage yellow finish, reverse taper neck, and texas special (AlNiCo V) pickups. It's super... though I might put it on the auction block as part of a gear (and fiscal) consolidation plan. I've only read good things about the three-pickup sig model that Mucc purchased. If you're digging it... then it's a great purchase! del __________________ totally wired

June 11th, 2008, 08:40 AM	#25 (permalink)
AjayTele Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 48 Posts: 1,570 12 Photos	Not sure if the price in OZ would be that much, but if that's the going rate in Singapore, that's it. I haven't seen a red one before, so I'm envious. I only have a black/gold one....

June 12th, 2008, 07:38 AM	#27 (permalink)
AjayTele Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 48 Posts: 1,570 12 Photos	To be honest, I don't remember how mine sounds. I'm a collector and I usually play a guitar when it arrives to see what it's like and then it will be not played for long periods of time. I certainly don't remember anything negative about it though, so I can only assume it didn't have any unusual buzzes or anything like that.

June 12th, 2008, 09:47 AM	#28 (permalink)
telejoe TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 52	I have the white with gold hardware and it's my number one. It's the best guitar that I have ever played. No pickup buzz here. I like the pickups so much that I have ordered a set of Lace Sensors to go in one of my Strats.

June 12th, 2008, 10:08 AM	#29 (permalink)
squeally dan TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 65	I had a tech look at it. He said it isn't a grounding issue. It only hums when I take my fingers off the strings. As long as I hold ahand on the strings it is quiet. I had an old strat with lace sensors and they were real quiet. Thats why this puzzles me. I'm wondering how much some shielding would help. Any opinions?

June 13th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#31 (permalink)
telejoe TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 52	I would say yes. That's a mighty fine looking work of art.

June 13th, 2008, 10:05 AM	#32 (permalink)
The Bestron TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 78	I think the price is good, especially if it's one of the first models. I wouldn't consider it as a "Tele" since it's more in the league of a non-trem model Strat and teh lace sensors are quite modern sounding - you don't get that "Tele" twang (except if you are Mr. Burton himself, who can probably make a Jackson pointy guitar sound like a Tele... the magic's in his fingers!) __________________ When I think of all the good times that I've wasted, having good times

June 13th, 2008, 02:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
HiggyDude Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Age: 46 Posts: 304	Nice - too bad they don't have the real red paisley model = like when JB played in all those Elvis concerts.... __________________ Pursue your dreams...and hopefully you have a Tele, tube amp and cold beer to accompany you on your journey! ---------------------------------------------- Twang on...HiggyDude Http://www.higgydude.com

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