glueing a covering on a tele

ludwig · August 19th, 2006, 12:58 PM

i'm thinking of glueing a covering,maybe newspaper/newsprint all over a body.
its got a poly coat on it at the moment and i dont really want to strip it,any ideas on the glue?
also how to seal it,i've got some clear nitro would this be enough or would i have to go down the thick poly route.(like the "wallpaper paisley's)

SteveY · August 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM

I like Barge contact cement (Ace Hardware carries it).
It's rubbery, so you can roll off the excess, and it helps in later removal some, however once it's been there awhile it's plenty tough.

My brother the wholesale leather goods elf turned me onto Barge decades ago.

Big Steve · August 19th, 2006, 01:55 PM

Nitro, poly and whatever glue you use may or may not be compatible. I would check the lables. Likely a poly over the top is going to be the way to go. You don't put it on super thick.

Also, I wouldn't strip the guitar first.

maestrovert · August 19th, 2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ludwig

i'm thinking of glueing a covering,maybe newspaper/newsprint all over a body.
its got a poly coat on it at the moment and i dont really want to strip it,any ideas on the glue?
also how to seal it,i've got some clear nitro would this be enough or would i have to go down the thick poly route.(like the "wallpaper paisley's)

Is this what you're looking for ? :
www.projectguitar.com/tut/mat.htm
hope it helps ya

ludwig · August 19th, 2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by maestrovert

Is this what you're looking for ? :
www.projectguitar.com/tut/mat.htm
hope it helps ya

thanks for that,not sure about the print he's using

but its a good place to start.

Fatmanstratman · August 19th, 2006, 05:31 PM

Wow - that tutorial sure looks complicated to me!

I've been thinking about trying something similar on a Tele top, but I would simply digitally print the image on to self adhesive vinyl, overlaminate it with clear vinyl (for protection), peel off the release paper, and stick it onto the guitar. It would LOVE the poly finish, and would adhere perfectly. This is the same sort of thing that you see on trucks & cars.

We have already tried this on pickguards, and the one on my son's Strat is still as good as the day we put it on (even with his heavy metal thrashing!).

To be fair, it helps if you know someone with a Sign Shop. We run our own, so we can play around with this kinda stuff anytime.

Good thing is... when you get sick of the design you can peel it off reasonably easily and fit a new one!

maestrovert · August 20th, 2006, 09:06 AM

www.guitarfacelift.com

Fatmanstratman · August 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM

We saw the "Facelift" launched at the London Guitar Show this year. They sold a few (mostly to kids), but most people just looked, smiled, and said "Erm.. yeah... right..."

I have to be honest, they were pretty ill-fitting, and looked exactly what they were - novelty gimmicks. You could see straight away that they were just stickers fitted over the front of a guitar. No attempt made to disguise the fact. And they are not cheap....

I was referring to a real job, properly fitting and made to look like it belonged on the guitar.

0le FUZZY · August 20th, 2006, 11:24 AM

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made to look like it belonged on the guitar.

HEE! HEE! ---- That rite there cornfused me.

0le FUZZY

Fatmanstratman · August 20th, 2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 0le FUZZY

HEE! HEE! ---- That rite there cornfused me.

Guess that DID sound a little strange!

I meant something like the 'Paisley' finish rather than something like this:

I mean, you would NEVER know that this was just slapped over the top of a Tele, would you?

Rich Rice · August 20th, 2006, 12:25 PM

I don't know if it is available in the UK, but craft stores in USA sell a product called "Mod Podge", for decoupage. It is water soluble, and hardens clear. Once it has cured, you can spray any type of clear protective finish you want over it. It can be applied with a brush or sprayed (if you have a sprayer). You will want to seal it when you are finished, as it remains a bit tacky. I've used poly and nitro over it with good results. Nice to work with, and water cleanup. Good luck!

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August 19th, 2006, 05:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Fatmanstratman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fatmanville, Cambs., UK Posts: 2,755	Wow - that tutorial sure looks complicated to me! I've been thinking about trying something similar on a Tele top, but I would simply digitally print the image on to self adhesive vinyl, overlaminate it with clear vinyl (for protection), peel off the release paper, and stick it onto the guitar. It would LOVE the poly finish, and would adhere perfectly. This is the same sort of thing that you see on trucks & cars. We have already tried this on pickguards, and the one on my son's Strat is still as good as the day we put it on (even with his heavy metal thrashing!). To be fair, it helps if you know someone with a Sign Shop. We run our own, so we can play around with this kinda stuff anytime. Good thing is... when you get sick of the design you can peel it off reasonably easily and fit a new one! __________________ . . . *"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance."*

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August 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Fatmanstratman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fatmanville, Cambs., UK Posts: 2,755	Tacky... We saw the "Facelift" launched at the London Guitar Show this year. They sold a few (mostly to kids), but most people just looked, smiled, and said "Erm.. yeah... right..." I have to be honest, they were pretty ill-fitting, and looked exactly what they were - novelty gimmicks. You could see straight away that they were just stickers fitted over the front of a guitar. No attempt made to disguise the fact. And they are not cheap.... I was referring to a real job, properly fitting and made to look like it belonged on the guitar. __________________ . . . *"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance."*

August 20th, 2006, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rich Rice Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dream world.. Just ask my wife. Age: 53 Posts: 2,523 11 Photos	I don't know if it is available in the UK, but craft stores in USA sell a product called "Mod Podge", for decoupage. It is water soluble, and hardens clear. Once it has cured, you can spray any type of clear protective finish you want over it. It can be applied with a brush or sprayed (if you have a sprayer). You will want to seal it when you are finished, as it remains a bit tacky. I've used poly and nitro over it with good results. Nice to work with, and water cleanup. Good luck! __________________ Please visit my website! If you are driven to play, you will find a way.

August 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
SteveY Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Age: 58 Posts: 1,419	I like Barge contact cement (Ace Hardware carries it). It's rubbery, so you can roll off the excess, and it helps in later removal some, however once it's been there awhile it's plenty tough. My brother the wholesale leather goods elf turned me onto Barge decades ago.

August 19th, 2006, 01:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Big Steve Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 456	Nitro, poly and whatever glue you use may or may not be compatible. I would check the lables. Likely a poly over the top is going to be the way to go. You don't put it on super thick. Also, I wouldn't strip the guitar first.