Which "Guitar-era" of Jimmy Page you prefer?

[Tele84-86]

There are a lot of Tele-fans (including me) in this forum and that´s why this forum is called "Telecaster Guitar Forum". There might also be some Les Paul-fans here so I ask all of you the following question: "Which so called "Guitar-Era" of Jimmy Page you prefer? - Telecaster or Les Paul? and Why?"

As we all know Jimmy Page is generally associated with Les Paul but in the end of his career in Yardbirds and in the beginning of Led Zeppelin he used the Telecaster given him by Jeff Beck. The all electric guitar of the first Zeppelin album was played using that Telecaster.

I personally prefer the "era" when Jimmy used Telecaster and it would have been interesting to know what "Les Paul-era"-Zeppelin would have sounded with Tele. Of course Jimmy have used various guitars throughout his career but undoubtly his main guitar in the early Zeppelin was Tele and from Led Zeppelin II was Les Paul.

I prefer Jimmy playing Tele because to my ears Jimmy´s phrasing suites better to Tele than Les Paul. I think Jimmy´s use of bends and pull-offs etc. sounds better with Tele. I also like how the sound of Tonebender fuzz, wah pedal, Tele and the amp (which was Marshall Plexi Head already at the time?) all combine nicely together with Jimmy´s playing particulary in the TV performance in Danish TV (seen in Led Zeppelin DVD). I would have listened that more in the music of Led Zeppelin.

[Mark Davis]

Yardbirds and the 1st Led Zep album.

Thats the real Jimmy Page. The Jimmy Page of the 70's didnt sound the same.

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[sultan59]

I don't think he ever actually stopped using the tele in the studio. Though he did switch to the LP for the live stuff. Some of those leads after the first album still sound pretty Tele-ish. That said, I pretty much like it all.

[RockinCarl]

+1 for the Tele.
Jimmy did a lot of behind the nut bends on that Tele, and they sounded great. I know he did the behind the nut bending on the Les Pauls too, but it just didn't sound as 'cool.' I loved his tone with the Tele.

[Tele84-86]

Originally Posted by sultan59

I don't think he ever actually stopped using the tele in the studio. Though he did switch to the LP for the live stuff. Some of those leads after the first album still sound pretty Tele-ish. That said, I pretty much like it all.

Yeah, you´re right Sultan59! Jimmy used Tele later for example in the solo of "Stairway to Heaven"-album version (Live-version was played with Gibson SG doubleneck). But the guitar Jimmy in the 70´s was mostly playing was Les Paul.

[zombywoof]

Was it true that Page played the lead part on the Kinks "All Day & All of the Night"? I know Ray Davies has said no but I remember reading that Page played this guitar part while still a session picker.

But I guess, I enjoyed Page most with the Yardbirds (on bass & guitar) and in the early Zep (pre-70) which, admittedly, is the only time I ever saw them live ('69 if I recall at Wolman Skating Rink in NYC).

That one song "Stroll On" originally in the film "Blow UP" where he and Beck shared guitar chores is just fantastic.

[Pete Galati]

I like the early Zep Page.

There's some great footage of him playing a Tele on songs from their first Lp. Great stuff. I'm sure it's on youtube somewhere.

[Tele84-86]

[Was it true that Page played the lead part on the Kinks "All Day & All of the Night"? I know Ray Davies has said no but I remember reading that Page played this guitar part while still a session picker.]

According to "Hammer of the Gods - The Led Zeppelin Saga" book it was just a rumour that Jimmy Page played the lead on that particular track as well as on the "You Really Got Me". From the same source Jimmy played rhytmn guitar on some other Kinks tracks.

[That one song "Stroll On" originally in the film "Blow UP" where he and Beck shared guitar chores is just fantastic.[/quote]

I agree!

[Telemarkman]

I definitely prefer Jimmy Page on a Tele.

I advice you to listen to Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" (1964) if you can find it. It features JP on a Tele through a Schaller volume/tone pedal.
I guess you would never have guessed it was Page playing - real tasteful and very different from his ordinairy style.

[timmer]

Personally, I liked the acoustic stuff he did just as good or better than anything else.

[Tele84-86]

[I definitely prefer Jimmy Page on a Tele.

I advice you to listen to Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" (1964) if you can find it. It features JP on a Tele through a Schaller volume/tone pedal.
I guess you would never have guessed it was Page playing - real tasteful and very different from his ordinairy style.]

I´ve heard that Jimmy have played on that track of Dave Berry´s though I haven´t heard the actual recording yet. Thanks for the advice! I must try and find the recording somewhere. Has not there been released some album which contains only those recordings during Jimmy´s studio-era? I´ve heard something that something like that has been released some years ago.

[Tele84-86]

[Personally, I liked the acoustic stuff he did just as good or better than anything else.]

Very good choice but the alternatives on this topic were just Tele or Les Paul. I also like Jimmy´s acoustic work which has had influence on my acoustic guitar playing particulary in the use of alternate tunings. Though, I don´t mind at all talkin´about Jimmy´s acoustic guitar stuff in this topic although it originally was the issue here.

[Telemarkman]

Originally Posted by Tele84-86

[I definitely prefer Jimmy Page on a Tele.

I advice you to listen to Dave Berry's "The Crying Game" (1964) if you can find it. It features JP on a Tele through a Schaller volume/tone pedal.
I guess you would never have guessed it was Page playing - real tasteful and very different from his ordinairy style.]

I´ve heard that Jimmy have played on that track of Dave Berry´s though I haven´t heard the actual recording yet. Thanks for the advice! I must try and find the recording somewhere. Has not there been released some album which contains only those recordings during Jimmy´s studio-era? I´ve heard something that something like that has been released some years ago.

I don't know about that, but amazon.com have three different Dave Berry CD's which all contain "Crying Game".

I won't guarantee you'll like DB though, but Page's playing is unique indeed !

[Mark Davis]

Originally Posted by timmer

Personally, I liked the acoustic stuff he did just as good or better than anything else.

Me too those were all great.

[J-man]

Speaking about tone and nothing else, I have to be honest that I think Jimmy sounded many times better with a Les Paul, please don't shoot me.

[RockinCarl]

Originally Posted by J-man

Speaking about tone and nothing else, I have to be honest that I think Jimmy sounded many times better with a Les Paul, please don't shoot me.

*Bang*

[Grin'n'pick]

I really don't know how you can choose. The guy just kept coming up with strokes of genius throughout whatever he was playing on - too tough to pick guys!

[-PickupTruck-]

Hmmm. Tough to know for sure what was what.

Led Zeppelin II
Heartbreaker - Les Paul?
Whole Lotta Love break - Telecaster?

I'd like to know which recordings, if any, he used the Danelectro on. There's certainly alot of live shots of him playing them.

For me, there's only one track that matters - Achilles Last Stand. Absolute pinnacle of Jimmy as a guitarist/producer (Stairway more so for all the elements, but Achilles for pure guitar orchestration). And that's on a Tele. And when he hits the note at 4:00 where he absolutely stretches for it, and it just groans - well, only that guitar at that time could have done that.

Put me down for Tele - that song alone was a key to me getting one (as well as all the Dieselbilly stuff). Tough to shake those roots.

[Dacious]

On the video footage from How the West Was Won he used the Dano for 'Blackmountainside' and 'When the Levee Breaks' and both sounded dead like the recordings.

I took up the Tele basically because of Page. The BBC Recordings show he was a pretty mean Tele exponent, even if he did lift a lot of signature licks off classic blues stuff, like the intro to 'Since I've Been Loving You'.

[Heather Anne Peel]

Which Page "era"? The Zeppelin era (1968-80)! I also thought it was awesome that he toured with The Black Crowes in 1999-2000. "Live At The Greek" is pretty great.
Heather

[garcia]

I have to add my 2 cents because Zep is my favorite band of all time. The thing that really sucked me in was the absolutely huge guitar tone Jimmy had. Not that a Tele can't be huge, but the main riff in 'Black Dog' sounds most like Page to me.

[TheSonicBlue]

The Danmarks Radio show is my favorite performance on the whole DVD. I love the raw, nasty tone Page gets on his Tele.

[vic108]

The stuff Page did for Donovan.
After that, the first 2 led Zep LP's.

[Heather Anne Peel]

It's just kind of a drag that Jimmy hasn't been more visible than he has since Zeppelin ended. I keep hoping he will be back in a big way someday, either with a reunited Led Zeppelin or something else. I think touring with The Black Crowes was really cool, because they have been hugely influenced by Led Zeppelin and have updated that style better than any other band, as far as I am concerned.
Heather

[HereComestheNice]

Originally Posted by Tele84-86

[Has not there been released some album which contains only those recordings during Jimmy´s studio-era? I´ve heard something that something like that has been released some years ago.

There are a few CDs out there with Page's session work, all of which I think are out of print at the moment. There's "Hip Young Guitar Slinger," which I think is a double-disc set, and Vols. 1 and 2 of "Session Man." AFAIK, MOST of the songs on these comps are available elsewhere, and many of them are on the "English Freakbeat" series. Frankly, I've never been too much of a Led Zep fan, and much prefer Page's studio work (I'm just really into the mid-60's Brit thing). If you can find it, check out Les Fleur De Lys version of the Who's "Circles" with Page on guitar--really great stuff!

[MRAY]

Jimmy on Tele (1969)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Glj6OgAQ0

and another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMk98Hn9e88

[zooropamofo]

Originally Posted by -PickupTruck-

Hmmm. Tough to know for sure what was what.

Led Zeppelin II
Heartbreaker - Les Paul?
Whole Lotta Love break - Telecaster?

I'd like to know which recordings, if any, he used the Danelectro on. There's certainly alot of live shots of him playing them.

For me, there's only one track that matters - Achilles Last Stand. Absolute pinnacle of Jimmy as a guitarist/producer (Stairway more so for all the elements, but Achilles for pure guitar orchestration). And that's on a Tele. And when he hits the note at 4:00 where he absolutely stretches for it, and it just groans - well, only that guitar at that time could have done that.

Put me down for Tele - that song alone was a key to me getting one (as well as all the Dieselbilly stuff). Tough to shake those roots.

In terms of the Dano, I believe I have an old issue of Guitar World in which it states that the Danelectro was used on Kashmir...

[Johnnytone]

There's an old saying I heard

"Jimmy Page sold more Les Pauls playing a Tele than anyone."

[-PickupTruck-]

Originally Posted by Johnnytone

There's an old saying I heard

"Jimmy Page sold more Les Pauls playing a Tele than anyone."

ROTFL - that's hilarious.

[Tele84-86]

[The Danmarks Radio show is my favorite performance on the whole DVD. I love the raw, nasty tone Page gets on his Tele.]

I also like very much that Danmarks Radio Show which I accidentaly called TV Show in the first thread in this topic. However, the Tele-sound that Jimmy produces in that show is one of the main reasons I prefer Jimmy playing Tele rather than Les Paul.

[Greg_C]

It's kind of like ZZ Top, you would only see Billy Gibbons with his Pearly Gates Les Paul, but some of his most well known guitar songs were recorded with and old Esquire through a Tweed Champ or Tweed Deluxe.
Let's see, which ones, pretty much everything on the first album, most of the second album except I know that the "Whole Lotta Love" riff was Les Paul,, "The Ocean", "The Rover", the solo in "Heartbreaker", the solo in "Stairway", "All Of My Love" with B-bender, "D'ye Maker", "Since I've Been loving You", "Hot Dog".
Just about everything slide or alternate tuning as well as Kashmir were done on his Dano.
He did "Tens Years Gone" on a Lake Placid Blue Strat live in 1974.
I saw them live several times between 1969 and 1976.

[sixtiesreject]

Hello Hello--
Herecomesthenice-- It was Phil Sawyer that played the solo on Fleur de Lys' version of "Circles". Page was in the studio helping to produce the song. Check out Bryn Haworth's playing in the later version of Fleur.
Brian.

[t0m]

Originally Posted by Grin'n'pick

I really don't know how you can choose. The guy just kept coming up with strokes of genius throughout whatever he was playing on - too tough to pick guys!

Agreed, his playing was/is amazing imho. I have the Song Remains the Same live dvd and I love the sound of the LP into the Marshall stacks

[collinsman]

Jimmy was playing a Tele, maybe a rosewood, on the " Ten Yrs Gone" clip from 'you tube'..

[Roli]

Originally Posted by Tele84-86

Which "Guitar-era" of Jimmy Page you prefer?

Okay, I'll be rude: none of them.

[teleman65]

Originally Posted by zombywoof

Was it true that Page played the lead part on the Kinks "All Day & All of the Night"? I know Ray Davies has said no but I remember reading that Page played this guitar part while still a session picker.

Jimmy Page claimed credit for so many sessions in the 60s and some of them have been disputed. He claimed to have played the electric guitar parts in 'Hurdy Gurdy Man' by Donovan and it was Alan Holdsworth so who knows. Dave Davies was more than capable of playing the lead part on the Kinks "All Day & All of the Night" and "You Really Got Me' both of which Jimmy Page claimed. I hope Dave Davies is recovering from his stroke and can play again.

As far as Page era I like his all of his Zeppelin stuff. I think it takes a special talent to know that a guitar's unique tone will work best under different conditions and sometimes(not often) a Les Paul through a Marshall will fit better than a Tele. One of my fav Page bits was on The Stones 'One Hit To The Body' nice work with the B bender on the Tele. Rumour has it that on The Stones 'Heart Of Stone' Page played lead on that. Keef learned it note for note and erased Page.

[RockinCarl]

Originally Posted by collinsman

Jimmy was playing a Tele, maybe a rosewood, on the " Ten Yrs Gone" clip from 'you tube'..

It does look like a rosewood, but its actually not...

from www.Led-Zeppelin.org:

1959 Fender Telecaster: Botswana brown model with a Rosewood neck and fit with the Parsons/White B-String Bender. It first appeared on stage in 1977. On the final tour in 1980, this guitar was used on Hot Dog and All My Love.

[The Amazing Phil]

With regards to the original post, Led Zep I was recorded on a Supro amp, not a Marshall. And just about every other Supro on e-bay is the kind he used apparently, which is somewhat irritating when it comes to figuring out what he really did use.

Led Zep I is one of the reasons I own a tele, and that quote about him selling more Les Pauls with a tele is spot on haha.

[Hafner]

Jimmy Page as well as Jeff Beck (and perhaps the over-rated Eric Clapton, but he is rather a Strat-man) should have stayed with the Telecaster. Again: hate Strats, never played a Gibson, fwiw ?

[Colo Springs E]

....didn't care for In Through The Out Door or anything after.

-E