neck size on muddy waters tele?

bluesfordan · July 10th, 2006, 10:16 PM

I've been told these are same size as a '62 tele reissue. which begs the question, what is the neck size of a '62 tele reissue?

Kingtone · July 10th, 2006, 10:45 PM

According to Fender :
Muddy Waters Tele: Maple, “C” Shape, (Satin Polyurethane Finish)

60s Classic Tele: Maple, “C” Shape,(Gloss Polyurethane Finish)

I have a Muddy Waters Tele and the neck is amazing, I've got big hands and the neck is near perfect. If you want I can measure the neck and give you the specs....

bluesfordan · July 10th, 2006, 10:49 PM

thanks, I don't think I need the measurements. I was hoping it would be a bigger neck, as I like them substantial. I take it Fender C-neck is a healthy chunk of wood then. That's what I wanted to hear.

gtrman911 · July 10th, 2006, 11:22 PM

mine was a normal C
not fat, not thin

mellecaster · July 10th, 2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesfordan

thanks, I don't think I need the measurements. I was hoping it would be a bigger neck, as I like them substantial. I take it Fender C-neck is a healthy chunk of wood then. That's what I wanted to hear.

What Fender describes as a C (60s Classic)...is sure not what I consider a Large neck..don't know about Muddy's....U is more of a Chunky type neck...think MIM 69 reissue...50s Classic....52 RI....James Burton Std.

TG · July 11th, 2006, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bluesfordan

thanks, I don't think I need the measurements. I was hoping it would be a bigger neck, as I like them substantial. I take it Fender C-neck is a healthy chunk of wood then. That's what I wanted to hear.

It's substantial. I think the 'C' and 'U' and 'V' designations are to do with shape only. The Muddy's 'C' profile is more-or-less like a modern US tele shape-wise but thicker. More 'meaty'.
It's my favorite type of tele neck. A very comfortable and playable handful.

Sarge · July 11th, 2006, 08:07 AM

Ahhh, the Muddy's neck. Just perfect, one of the pleasant surprizes of the Muddy. The neck is damn near perfect, not sure of the radius. Now if I could just get use to the neck pup. The bridge pup is killer, but the neck just seems to lack something.

ChurchPlayer · July 11th, 2006, 08:28 AM

I love the Muddy Waters neck, but I wouldn't call it "Big", maybe just "Bigger". "Big" to me is rreserved for the Boatnecks and 1" stuff. I'll even let the 52RI necks go with "Big". The Muddy is not near those dimensions, but it's still as comfortable a rosewood board neck as I've seen on any production model. I've had both a US 62RI and a Muddy and I thought the Muddy felt more substantial - not a lot, but enough that I sold the 62 and the rest of the Muddy, but kept the neck for a project Tele (never liked CAR).

TG · July 11th, 2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarge

The neck is damn near perfect, not sure of the radius.

9.5"

Sarge · July 12th, 2006, 08:21 AM

Thanks, that's what I thought and hoped.

bluesfordan · July 12th, 2006, 09:52 AM

thanks, all. I had a chance on a Muddy tele for a great price, with an aftermarket neck pup, but I did not pull the trigger and somebody beat me to it.

bluesfordan · July 12th, 2006, 09:52 AM

thanks, all. I had a chance on a Muddy tele for a great price, with an aftermarket neck pup, but I did not pull the trigger and somebody beat me to it.

thebisch · July 12th, 2006, 10:29 AM

I used to own a '99 Classic '60s Strat, '01 Classic '60s Tele, and an '02 Muddy. Besides the radius and fret difference of the Muddy, all three had almost the exact same size and shape necks.

Sarge · July 12th, 2006, 02:26 PM

I could live with an after market in the neck...the bridge pick up is what makes the Muddy shine...plus the neck.

shakedancer · July 14th, 2006, 06:48 PM

Thebisch, How did all those models compare,weightwise??

thebisch · July 15th, 2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shakedancer

Thebisch, How did all those models compare,weightwise??

The Muddy was a bit heavier that the other two, it's ash. It wasn't a tank though. I have heard that there are some tank Muddys out there. The '60s Strat was Poplar and the '60s Tele was Alder. They both weighed about the same and were on the top end of light weight, maybe the bottom end of medium. Ulitmatly, none of them did it for me. All three had neck heel hump and I was never able to get them to play to my likeing. All three felt pretty darn stiff with 10s. The pickups in the Classics were terrible IMO. Thin and ice picky. The pickups in the Muddy were fantastic at home, but I didn't gel with them in the band. At this point I pretty much stay away from any Fender made past '84, with a strong prefrence to '78-'80. The exception being my EJ Strat...the EJ may possibly be the best guitar I have ever played.

bluesfordan · July 15th, 2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thebisch

The exception being my EJ Strat...the EJ may possibly be the best guitar I have ever played.

The EJs I've played definitely turned me back onto Fender again. Now if they just had a rosewood fingerboard with that neck, yummmm

Strat-O · July 16th, 2006, 11:42 PM

Nah, the neck on my Muddy Tele is far from 'fat'. Its a skinny neck. The shape is a 'C' shape, but its not a beefy neck at all. I consider a beefy or fat neck to be 1" thick at the nut and somewhere close to that at the 12th fret. I don't know what the measurement of the Muddy Tele is, but it isn't very close to that. All my other guitars (Tele's and Strat's) have fat/beefy necks on them and a 'C' shape.

It reminds me alot of the neck that was on a '62 reissue Strat I used to have. It was one of the early ones from the late 80's. Skinny neck.

Darrell · July 17th, 2006, 09:36 AM

Strat-O is on the mark. I found very little difference between the Muddy Neck and the American Standard/Series/Deluxe necks. One in the same.

Actually, I think the Muddy is the best tele available for the money. AS neck, ash body, vintage hardware. And you can find them for less than 500 bucks if you look around. It is the best bang for the buck.

Of course it needs a set of chrome domes. Them amp knobs ain't right.

July 10th, 2006, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluesfordan Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 484	neck size on muddy waters tele? I've been told these are same size as a '62 tele reissue. which begs the question, what is the neck size of a '62 tele reissue?

July 10th, 2006, 11:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
gtrman911 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Camelot Posts: 1,165 7 Photos	mine was a normal C not fat, not thin __________________ My opinion is worth what you paid for it.

July 11th, 2006, 08:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
ChurchPlayer Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 375	I love the Muddy Waters neck, but I wouldn't call it "Big", maybe just "Bigger". "Big" to me is rreserved for the Boatnecks and 1" stuff. I'll even let the 52RI necks go with "Big". The Muddy is not near those dimensions, but it's still as comfortable a rosewood board neck as I've seen on any production model. I've had both a US 62RI and a Muddy and I thought the Muddy felt more substantial - not a lot, but enough that I sold the 62 and the rest of the Muddy, but kept the neck for a project Tele (never liked CAR). __________________ Jake "I tell my kids, 'Daddy's the best guitar player on the block. Always will be. Even if we have to move.'"

July 14th, 2006, 06:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
shakedancer Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: north of Boston Posts: 1,634	Thebisch, How did all those models compare,weightwise?? __________________ "If you don't like the Blues, you got to have a Hole in your Soul." Luther Allison JOE

July 17th, 2006, 09:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
Darrell Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 48 Posts: 2,485	Strat-O is on the mark. I found very little difference between the Muddy Neck and the American Standard/Series/Deluxe necks. One in the same. Actually, I think the Muddy is the best tele available for the money. AS neck, ash body, vintage hardware. And you can find them for less than 500 bucks if you look around. It is the best bang for the buck. Of course it needs a set of chrome domes. Them amp knobs ain't right. __________________ "Yeap, I like the American Standard Telecaster, I can even live with one a them PCB amps, and I even use one a them mul-tie-effects things too."

July 10th, 2006, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kingtone Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Camillus, NY Age: 50 Posts: 538 5 Photos	According to Fender : Muddy Waters Tele: Maple, “C” Shape, (Satin Polyurethane Finish) 60s Classic Tele: Maple, “C” Shape,(Gloss Polyurethane Finish) I have a Muddy Waters Tele and the neck is amazing, I've got big hands and the neck is near perfect. If you want I can measure the neck and give you the specs....

July 10th, 2006, 10:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
bluesfordan Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 484	thanks, I don't think I need the measurements. I was hoping it would be a bigger neck, as I like them substantial. I take it Fender C-neck is a healthy chunk of wood then. That's what I wanted to hear.

July 11th, 2006, 08:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sarge Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pgh,Pa Age: 53 Posts: 3,549	Ahhh, the Muddy's neck. Just perfect, one of the pleasant surprizes of the Muddy. The neck is damn near perfect, not sure of the radius. Now if I could just get use to the neck pup. The bridge pup is killer, but the neck just seems to lack something.

July 12th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sarge Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pgh,Pa Age: 53 Posts: 3,549	Thanks, that's what I thought and hoped.

July 12th, 2006, 09:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
bluesfordan Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 484	thanks, all. I had a chance on a Muddy tele for a great price, with an aftermarket neck pup, but I did not pull the trigger and somebody beat me to it.

July 12th, 2006, 09:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
bluesfordan Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 484	thanks, all. I had a chance on a Muddy tele for a great price, with an aftermarket neck pup, but I did not pull the trigger and somebody beat me to it.

July 12th, 2006, 10:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
thebisch TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 33	I used to own a '99 Classic '60s Strat, '01 Classic '60s Tele, and an '02 Muddy. Besides the radius and fret difference of the Muddy, all three had almost the exact same size and shape necks.

July 12th, 2006, 02:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Sarge Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pgh,Pa Age: 53 Posts: 3,549	I could live with an after market in the neck...the bridge pick up is what makes the Muddy shine...plus the neck.

July 16th, 2006, 11:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
Strat-O TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East of the Pecos Posts: 28	Nah, the neck on my Muddy Tele is far from 'fat'. Its a skinny neck. The shape is a 'C' shape, but its not a beefy neck at all. I consider a beefy or fat neck to be 1" thick at the nut and somewhere close to that at the 12th fret. I don't know what the measurement of the Muddy Tele is, but it isn't very close to that. All my other guitars (Tele's and Strat's) have fat/beefy necks on them and a 'C' shape. It reminds me alot of the neck that was on a '62 reissue Strat I used to have. It was one of the early ones from the late 80's. Skinny neck.