Ebay Old Fender Telecaster Guitar

Hafner · June 13th, 2006, 06:42 AM

Now that is interesting, compare:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-fender-tel...QQcmdZViewItem with

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=7420509046

simplygoodmusic · June 13th, 2006, 07:47 AM

Big John · June 13th, 2006, 08:24 AM

I have eMailed him and asked outright if it is the same one he bought from 'pinkspock' a couple of days earlier. :D

Looks like the belt sander has been busy on the back of that neck and i am i seeing something that isn't there but can i neeeeearly make out on the back of the headstock the place where the '50th anniv.' sticker was ?

Could be 100% genuine though !

Couldn't resist it !! have bid £10 on it !

jwells393 · June 13th, 2006, 11:00 AM

Good eye Hafner.....

No doubt about it, this is outright fraud. Grain patterns are like fingerprints. I too see where the 50th Anniversary sticker was.

Quote:

old fender telecaster guitar this guitar was given to me a long time ago but i never learnt to play

Seems this senario, where the seller claims to know nothing of guitars but somehow has the old guitar, is happening a lot on Ebay UK.

In the original auction the seller said he preferred local pickup......... well it looks like that's what he got. The second auction began two days after the first ended.

I assume the second seller doesn't intend to supply all the case candy and this COA.

.......................

tpaul · June 13th, 2006, 11:25 AM

I too emailed the current seller asking if it isn't the same guitar. Seems like an obvious scam.

Has anyone alerted Ebay? If not, we should.

Big John · June 13th, 2006, 11:29 AM

Quote from jwells393 :-
Seems this senario, where the seller claims to know nothing of guitars but somehow has the old guitar, is happening a lot on Ebay UK.

What not many of them realise is that, certainly during the 50's and up until the early 60's there was a trade embargo of certain goods with the US, some kind of hangover from the war and to build up Britains post war industries.
Thing is, NO Fenders would have been imported then so stories of "bought in 55 and left under a farmers bed" are just plain lies !
Yes, of course there would have been 'personal imports' and i believe Hank Marvins Strat was brought home by Cliff Richard in this way but though its hard to believe now, travelling from here to the US was a mammoth journey in those days and the US was a million miles away for people in the UK.
Funny, i haven't had a reply from my eMail to him yet, the great thing is if i win it for £10 i can easily get to his hometown to pick it up ! :D

Big John · June 13th, 2006, 11:49 AM

Got this reply to my question "is it the same guitar ?"

reply :-
hi
my friend has one too and he bought the outher just for the case and the neck,so my listing is kinda true,the guitar is still original and great condition
regards
baz

Ahuh :evil:

tpaul · June 13th, 2006, 02:16 PM

Here's his explanation:

hi
my friend own the same guitar and bought the one the outher day for the case parts and neck,this guitar is still original parts just without a case and a different neck taken from anouther identical usa model,
regards
skink

Kinda shoots his "this guitar was given to me a long time ago but i never learnt to play" line all to heck, don't it?

jwells393 · June 13th, 2006, 02:24 PM

Hmmmm .............He just happened to have another '52 Reissue neck lying around............... from '96.

benbo · June 13th, 2006, 02:25 PM

One reply ends with Baz, the other with Skink??? Multiple personalities maybe :?

Tom S · June 13th, 2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big John

"so my listing is kinda true"

And kinda not. What an outright liar and scammer. Too many people have no shame anymore...

benbo · June 13th, 2006, 02:29 PM

Yep, no mistaking that grain pattern as well as where the snit pulled the sticker of the headstock. Is no one honest anymore. Thats what "censored" it up for the rest of the honest guys out there.

I say we round them all up, hang them from their pebbles until they promise never to deceive anyone ever again. :evil:

jazzguitar · June 13th, 2006, 02:32 PM

Well he seems to be in the habit of lying, here's what he (stinkvole) left as feedback for the seller (pinkspock) of the (then mint!) guitar:

Quote:

FRIENDLY EBAYER++GUITAR WILL BE WELL LOOKED AFTER++

I don't think treating it with a belt sander can be described as "WELL LOOKED AFTER"!

Big John · June 13th, 2006, 03:40 PM

And just to add insult to injury my generous £10 bid has been knocked up to a stratospheric £51 !!!
Guess i'll give this one a miss and go look for another one of Keefs !

Hafner · June 14th, 2006, 07:15 PM

The seller has ended this auction ...

jwells393 · June 14th, 2006, 09:39 PM

Quote:

The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing.

............ well I guess so...........

Hafner · June 15th, 2006, 03:51 AM

... I think, he will refinish or relic the guitar in a better way to disguise it ...

June 13th, 2006, 06:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hafner Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Switzerland Age: 60 Posts: 1,551 18 Photos	Ebay Old Fender Telecaster Guitar Now that is interesting, compare: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-fender-tel...QQcmdZViewItem with http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=7420509046 __________________ Manfred

June 13th, 2006, 08:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Big John Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 4,652 35 Photos	Teee heee ..... I have eMailed him and asked outright if it is the same one he bought from 'pinkspock' a couple of days earlier. :D Looks like the belt sander has been busy on the back of that neck and i am i seeing something that isn't there but can i neeeeearly make out on the back of the headstock the place where the '50th anniv.' sticker was ? Could be 100% genuine though ! Couldn't resist it !! have bid £10 on it ! __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

June 13th, 2006, 11:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
tpaul Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingston, NY Posts: 736	Has anyone alerted Ebay about this? I too emailed the current seller asking if it isn't the same guitar. Seems like an obvious scam. Has anyone alerted Ebay? If not, we should.

June 13th, 2006, 11:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Big John Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 4,652 35 Photos	Bingo ! Quote from jwells393 :- Seems this senario, where the seller claims to know nothing of guitars but somehow has the old guitar, is happening a lot on Ebay UK. What not many of them realise is that, certainly during the 50's and up until the early 60's there was a trade embargo of certain goods with the US, some kind of hangover from the war and to build up Britains post war industries. Thing is, NO Fenders would have been imported then so stories of "bought in 55 and left under a farmers bed" are just plain lies ! Yes, of course there would have been 'personal imports' and i believe Hank Marvins Strat was brought home by Cliff Richard in this way but though its hard to believe now, travelling from here to the US was a mammoth journey in those days and the US was a million miles away for people in the UK. Funny, i haven't had a reply from my eMail to him yet, the great thing is if i win it for £10 i can easily get to his hometown to pick it up ! :D __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

June 13th, 2006, 11:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
Big John Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 4,652 35 Photos	Just in ... Got this reply to my question "is it the same guitar ?" reply :- hi my friend has one too and he bought the outher just for the case and the neck,so my listing is kinda true,the guitar is still original and great condition regards baz Ahuh :evil: __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

June 13th, 2006, 07:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
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June 13th, 2006, 02:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
tpaul Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingston, NY Posts: 736	I got a similar reply Here's his explanation: hi my friend own the same guitar and bought the one the outher day for the case parts and neck,this guitar is still original parts just without a case and a different neck taken from anouther identical usa model, regards skink Kinda shoots his "this guitar was given to me a long time ago but i never learnt to play" line all to heck, don't it?

June 13th, 2006, 02:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 12,211 101 Photos	Hmmmm .............He just happened to have another '52 Reissue neck lying around............... from '96. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

June 13th, 2006, 02:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
benbo Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampton, Va Age: 44 Posts: 775	One reply ends with Baz, the other with Skink??? Multiple personalities maybe :? __________________ Benny Trevillian. 90% of it is in the hands..

June 13th, 2006, 02:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
benbo Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampton, Va Age: 44 Posts: 775	Yep, no mistaking that grain pattern as well as where the snit pulled the sticker of the headstock. Is no one honest anymore. Thats what "censored" it up for the rest of the honest guys out there. I say we round them all up, hang them from their pebbles until they promise never to deceive anyone ever again. :evil: __________________ Benny Trevillian. 90% of it is in the hands..

June 13th, 2006, 03:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
Big John Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 4,652 35 Photos	Oh no ! And just to add insult to injury my generous £10 bid has been knocked up to a stratospheric £51 !!! Guess i'll give this one a miss and go look for another one of Keefs ! __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

June 14th, 2006, 07:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hafner Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Switzerland Age: 60 Posts: 1,551 18 Photos	The seller has ended this auction ... __________________ Manfred

June 15th, 2006, 03:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
Hafner Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Switzerland Age: 60 Posts: 1,551 18 Photos	... I think, he will refinish or relic the guitar in a better way to disguise it ... __________________ Manfred