Disappointed in a detail: Current 60s Bigsby Custom Tele

Mik · May 31st, 2006, 05:54 PM

Saw at a dealer yesterday a beaut of a current model, CIJ, bigsby 60s Custom Tele in all its bound sunburst glory. Attractive price but...

"Custom Telecaster" is not on the headstock decal!

Just "Telecaster" :evil:

AR Duch wrote that some early 59 Customs had only "Telecaster" on the headstock, but other 59s and all production Customs through the 60s had the "Custom Telecaster" decal until the big bad black CBS logo of the late 60s.

Hard for me to get past this detail, it's a deal breaker. I know a bigsby Custom Tele was a special order back in the 60s, so how does one measure the authenticity of a current replica? Subjective, I guess, and I want "Custom Telecaster" on the headstock!

Back to real life,
Mik

telel6s · May 31st, 2006, 06:00 PM

And you know what else? At the heel of my neck, just above the body, it says "Crafted in Japan". Now, I've never held a true early 60s Custom, but I don't think those have that wording.

(I am just being sarcastic here.)

Vol. Knob · May 31st, 2006, 10:00 PM

No disrespect but....

oh for crying out loud...... Big deal, it's not the real thing, it's a reissue!

Play it for the fact that it's a tele. My MIJ '69 Thinline has a super thick poly coat, real '69 Thinlines did not. I've never thought to complain, considering my Reissue set me back 1/4th what the original would.

Tom S · May 31st, 2006, 10:16 PM

Hey, c'mon, it's not just the fact that the word "Custom" is missing, I heard that the hang tags are different too! Forget that!!!!!

jwells393 · May 31st, 2006, 11:27 PM

Hmmm........ No "Custom" on the headstock ......... that definitely is a deal breaker ............. whoops......... I think I've already done the deal ............ twice.

sidneystreet · June 1st, 2006, 12:58 AM

If you are just planning on looking at it and impressing tele-nerd friends, then walk away. If you are a player, judge it on its merits as a guitar. It absolutely isn't the real thing in ANY way.

jimbobfingernails · June 1st, 2006, 03:03 AM

'If you are just planning on looking at it and impressing tele-nerd friends'

Lol, I didn't think tele-nerds had friends, they just spend all there time on the net.

Play it, if you like it buy it, I hear you can get something called water slide decals if you're that bothered.

Lostheart · June 1st, 2006, 06:19 AM

That would bother me as well to be quite honest...if I want a reproduction of a certain model I want it to be "exact"...

Strange to see so many folks here all of a sudden who don't care about a detail like this...especially since this forum has seen countless page-long threads about the nitro paintjob on 52 RI's!!!

sneakyjapan · June 1st, 2006, 10:16 AM

technically.....it`s not a reissue. it`s a Fender Japan model...and it`s not like they care what we think.

BLACKCAT69 · June 1st, 2006, 10:27 AM

I think you should give it to me. I think it will make you feel better.

Mike Fleming · June 1st, 2006, 10:39 AM

hey, maybe we could ease up on the guy a little....

If it helps any, the MIJ and CIJ 62 reissues have always just said "telecaster", even when the AV 62 says "Custom Telecaster". I don't know why, all i know is they've done it that way for 20 years.

Mike

Mik · June 1st, 2006, 12:55 PM

No fun if the inmates here "ease up" on me, bring it on!

What if the Muddy Waters Tele had knurled metal control knobs instead of Super Reverb knobs? And DIDN'T have "Custom Telecaster" on the headstock? A SHAME that would be. And one can't call a Muddy Tele a "reissue"...a tribute, yes. But it wouldn't be right, without the 50s body, the 60s rosewood f/b neck and "Custom Telecaster" headstock decal. Yes the details matter.

Noted, that Fender Japan has been producing 60s "Custom Telecaster" style Tele "reissues" for decades without the "Custom Telecaster" decal. The USA AV reissue got it right.

And may I remind y'all that I signed off my original post with "back to real life"

Mik

harlycarly · June 1st, 2006, 01:11 PM

take it easy on ol' Mik, wouldja??

Just offering up some thoughts, is all.

Besides, by the looks of his avatar he appears to be pretty stressed out as it is

telel6s · June 1st, 2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik

No fun if the inmates here "ease up" on me, bring it on!

What if the Muddy Waters Tele had knurled metal control knobs instead of Super Reverb knobs? And DIDN'T have "Custom Telecaster" on the headstock? A SHAME that would be. And one can't call a Muddy Tele a "reissue"...a tribute, yes. But it wouldn't be right, without the 50s body, the 60s rosewood f/b neck and "Custom Telecaster" headstock decal. Yes the details matter.

Mik

Mik,

I was going to say I was just trying to be funny and didn't mean to bring on this onslaught....but, hey, since you seem to be asking for it now......

Can you give us your opinions on the Deluxe, Super and Twin Reverb Reissue amplifiers? :)

Skully · June 1st, 2006, 04:56 PM

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Besides, by the looks of his avatar he appears to be pretty stressed out as it is

My three and a half year old daughter saw the picture in Mik's avatar on the cover of "The Shining" DVD case a few weeks ago and she asked, "What is that man doing?" I told her that he was saying hello to his family. I was on deadline, so I took the DVD out to play the "If you hear me typing scene" to annoy my wife. My daughter wanted to watch the rest of the movie, but we told it that wouldn't be such a good idea.

May 31st, 2006, 05:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mik Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,416	Disappointed in a detail: Current 60s Bigsby Custom Tele Saw at a dealer yesterday a beaut of a current model, CIJ, bigsby 60s Custom Tele in all its bound sunburst glory. Attractive price but... "Custom Telecaster" is not on the headstock decal! Just "Telecaster" :evil: AR Duch wrote that some early 59 Customs had only "Telecaster" on the headstock, but other 59s and all production Customs through the 60s had the "Custom Telecaster" decal until the big bad black CBS logo of the late 60s. Hard for me to get past this detail, it's a deal breaker. I know a bigsby Custom Tele was a special order back in the 60s, so how does one measure the authenticity of a current replica? Subjective, I guess, and I want "Custom Telecaster" on the headstock! Back to real life, Mik __________________ a "motor-bike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocations, to excess."-T.E. Lawrence

May 31st, 2006, 06:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
telel6s Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,176 80 Photos	That's it....I'm selling mine And you know what else? At the heel of my neck, just above the body, it says "Crafted in Japan". Now, I've never held a true early 60s Custom, but I don't think those have that wording. (I am just being sarcastic here.) __________________ Mama always said, "A little tone is good for the soul."

May 31st, 2006, 10:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Vol. Knob Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 567 79 Photos	No disrespect but.... oh for crying out loud...... Big deal, it's not the real thing, it's a reissue! Play it for the fact that it's a tele. My MIJ '69 Thinline has a super thick poly coat, real '69 Thinlines did not. I've never thought to complain, considering my Reissue set me back 1/4th what the original would. __________________ I have a few bands: 7 Mysteries Zerababyl Inflammatory Rhetoric

May 31st, 2006, 11:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 12,210 101 Photos	Hmmm........ No "Custom" on the headstock ......... that definitely is a deal breaker ............. whoops......... I think I've already done the deal ............ twice. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

June 1st, 2006, 06:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lostheart Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,391	That would bother me as well to be quite honest...if I want a reproduction of a certain model I want it to be "exact"... Strange to see so many folks here all of a sudden who don't care about a detail like this...especially since this forum has seen countless page-long threads about the nitro paintjob on 52 RI's!!! __________________ Casper: "Mmmmm. Butterscotch, yo. That's the best!" From the movie Kids

May 31st, 2006, 10:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tom S Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,211 49 Photos	Hey, c'mon, it's not just the fact that the word "Custom" is missing, I heard that the hang tags are different too! Forget that!!!!!

June 1st, 2006, 12:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
sidneystreet Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,238	If you are just planning on looking at it and impressing tele-nerd friends, then walk away. If you are a player, judge it on its merits as a guitar. It absolutely isn't the real thing in ANY way.

June 1st, 2006, 03:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
jimbobfingernails TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 47	'If you are just planning on looking at it and impressing tele-nerd friends' Lol, I didn't think tele-nerds had friends, they just spend all there time on the net. Play it, if you like it buy it, I hear you can get something called water slide decals if you're that bothered.

June 1st, 2006, 10:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
sneakyjapan Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nippon Posts: 2,471 3 Photos	technically.....it`s not a reissue. it`s a Fender Japan model...and it`s not like they care what we think. __________________ quasi mojo

June 1st, 2006, 10:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
BLACKCAT69 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada-Windsor-Ont. Age: 37 Posts: 2,633 5 Photos	I think you should give it to me. I think it will make you feel better. __________________ http://www.lukefisher.com/blame.wav

June 1st, 2006, 10:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mike Fleming Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 377	hey, maybe we could ease up on the guy a little.... If it helps any, the MIJ and CIJ 62 reissues have always just said "telecaster", even when the AV 62 says "Custom Telecaster". I don't know why, all i know is they've done it that way for 20 years. Mike

June 1st, 2006, 12:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mik Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,416	No fun if the inmates here "ease up" on me, bring it on! What if the Muddy Waters Tele had knurled metal control knobs instead of Super Reverb knobs? And DIDN'T have "Custom Telecaster" on the headstock? A SHAME that would be. And one can't call a Muddy Tele a "reissue"...a tribute, yes. But it wouldn't be right, without the 50s body, the 60s rosewood f/b neck and "Custom Telecaster" headstock decal. Yes the details matter. Noted, that Fender Japan has been producing 60s "Custom Telecaster" style Tele "reissues" for decades without the "Custom Telecaster" decal. The USA AV reissue got it right. And may I remind y'all that I signed off my original post with "back to real life" Mik __________________ a "motor-bike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocations, to excess."-T.E. Lawrence

June 1st, 2006, 01:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
harlycarly Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Republik of Vermont Posts: 650	Hey, hey, hey............ take it easy on ol' Mik, wouldja?? Just offering up some thoughts, is all. Besides, by the looks of his avatar he appears to be pretty stressed out as it is