Anyone use 22nd fret on a Tele?

Pete Galati · May 27th, 2006, 11:18 PM

Does anyone actually use the 22nd fret on the newer Telecasters with 22 frets?

I was messing with the Tele I just put together with the 22 fret Vintage/Modern Warmoth neck. I finally remembered that it has 22 frets, so I had to try using the extra fret. Not very easy at all! It's posible to use it, but for me, it sure is diffucult.

Just curious, does anyone actually use the 22nd fret on a Tele?

Pete

Bones · May 27th, 2006, 11:43 PM

I try to stay above the 17th

sidneystreet · May 28th, 2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete Galati

Just curious, does anyone actually use the 22nd fret on a Tele?Pete

I never have, and I am confident that I never will. In fact, due to the inherent pickguard removal/neck pup adjustment problems, I vow to never again buy a tele that has 22 frets.

Tom S · May 28th, 2006, 12:41 AM

I'd use the 24th, if it only had one. Double octaves rule!

Pete Galati · May 28th, 2006, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sidneystreet

I never have, and I am confident that I never will. In fact, due to the inherent pickguard removal/neck pup adjustment problems, I vow to never again buy a tele that has 22 frets.

That's something I hadn't considered!

I guess that must be one of the reasons they mount the neck pickup on the pickguard these days.

That kind of throw a wrench into the works, because I had decided that I should have that guitar donate it's neck to my traditional Tele project. But I'd need to be able to remove the pickguard to adjust the neck PU height, which I refuse to mount on the pickguard.

Thanks. I need to figure out how to handle that. Not that I adjust my neck PU height more than once in a blue moon.

Pete

GUITARmole · May 28th, 2006, 06:24 AM

Of course. Personally though, I don't know that I've ever used the 21st!

Big John · May 28th, 2006, 06:28 AM

...anything above the 8th just seems like "showing off" to me !

Telemarkman · May 28th, 2006, 06:29 AM

Pete Galati wrote :

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Does anyone actually use the 22nd fret on the newer Telecasters with 22 frets?

I sold mine.....

Telemarkman · May 28th, 2006, 06:37 AM

Big John wrote :

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...anything above the 8th just seems like "showing off" to me !

When I heard you play around 1980, you were showing off all the time !

Ate some lapskaus lately ?

Big John · May 28th, 2006, 06:50 AM

"Yes" to both questions, but sometimes not enough !! (to both questions)

Pete Galati · May 28th, 2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Big John

"Yes" to both questions, but sometimes not enough !! (to both questions)

It's good that you said yes to both questions!

I must have started this thread at 2AM,because I asked the same question twice.

J-man · May 28th, 2006, 11:49 AM

Yup! When I'm soloing in E I love to hit that one tone up bend on the 22nd fret, really screams if you do it right!

hegn · May 28th, 2006, 12:04 PM

If it's there I'll use it, if it's not I really don't miss it. One of my Teles is a ´88 that has 22 frets, I think it's nice to be able to use it and hit that high D once in a while, but I also think that the neck looks wrong somehow with that extension piece of board sticking out...

Fatmanstratman · May 28th, 2006, 02:58 PM

Well - I go as high as the 14th when playing the intro to 'Dear Prudence' by The Beatles, but any higher and I start to get dizzy....

Last time I touched the 22nd fret was when I was removing one from the neck of a Harley Benton Tele copy that I converted to an Esquire (I hate that ridiculous overhang that fouls the scratchplate); I cut off the offending 'lip' and reshaped the bottom of the neck.

If anyone really wants to try out the 22nd fret, I think I may still have it in my bits box somewhere. Free to a good home....

I'm with Big John - barre chords past the 8th are too much like hard work....

charlie chitlin · May 28th, 2006, 04:48 PM

There's no money above the 10th fret.

Pete Galati · May 28th, 2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatmanstratman

Well - I go as high as the 14th when playing the intro to 'Dear Prudence' by The Beatles, but any higher and I start to get dizzy....

Last time I touched the 22nd fret was when I was removing one from the neck of a Harley Benton Tele copy that I converted to an Esquire (I hate that ridiculous overhang that fouls the scratchplate); I cut off the offending 'lip' and reshaped the bottom of the neck.

If anyone really wants to try out the 22nd fret, I think I may still have it in my bits box somewhere. Free to a good home....

I'm with Big John - barre chords past the 8th are too much like hard work....

sidneystreet brought up that pickguard problem. I took a quick look at it this morning to see if I could cut it off, but that doesn't look like it'd work well on this Warmoth neck:

I know that they'd be capable of building a 21 fret neck with a peghead adjustment, but you'd need to talk to the right person. USACG would be a better bet I think.

Pete

Pete Galati · May 28th, 2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie frey

There's no money above the 10th fret.

I doubt that there's any documented evidence that I ever made any money on guitar!

J-man · May 28th, 2006, 05:18 PM

I try and move around the fretboard a bit, why limit yourself unnecessarily?

hegn · May 28th, 2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by J-man

I try and move around the fretboard a bit, why limit yourself unnecessarily?

My thoughts exactly J-man!

Telemarkman · May 28th, 2006, 05:33 PM

J-man wrote:

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I try and move around the fretboard a bit, why limit yourself unnecessarily?

Roy B, Roy N, James B, Don R, Danny G etc., etc. don't
sound very limited to me.

Pete Galati · May 28th, 2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by J-man

I try and move around the fretboard a bit, why limit yourself unnecessarily?

I'm with you on this one. I don't have a good way of working the 22nd fret on a Tele yet, but I'd sure hate to restrict myself to only a few frets. I'm not a good enough player to only play rhythm guitar.

I just looked at the picture of the lip for the 22nd fret, and I doubt that the whole thing is needed. It looks like I could cut half the lip off, and then the pckguard would come right off, and it wouldn't look so odd.

I have a fret saw that'd be perfect for the job, so I'll work out how to do this..

Pete

woodman · May 28th, 2006, 08:22 PM

the more geezerly i get, the less high notes i play ... don't ride to the top floor much these days.

SteveY · May 28th, 2006, 09:44 PM

I go to the 20th (a real high "C"), but I don't think my ears can hear anything higher than that!

bwanasonic · May 28th, 2006, 11:43 PM

I'm much more likely to use pinch harmonics to get those high *squealing* notes. I might also use a slide up that high. But I rarely fret that high, even on 24 fret necks. I only have 21-fret tele guitars.

Kerry M

emisilly · May 29th, 2006, 01:18 AM

To be honest, I rarely ever go past the 7th or 8th fret. In fact, I'd say 75% of the time I dont get pas

May 27th, 2006, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pete Galati R.I.P. Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,104 2 Photos	Anyone use 22nd fret on a Tele? Does anyone actually use the 22nd fret on the newer Telecasters with 22 frets? I was messing with the Tele I just put together with the 22 fret Vintage/Modern Warmoth neck. I finally remembered that it has 22 frets, so I had to try using the extra fret. Not very easy at all! It's posible to use it, but for me, it sure is diffucult. Just curious, does anyone actually use the 22nd fret on a Tele? Pete

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Big John Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 4,652 35 Photos	To be honest... ...anything above the 8th just seems like "showing off" to me ! __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

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Big John Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 4,652 35 Photos	Morn' "Yes" to both questions, but sometimes not enough !! (to both questions) __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

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J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 20 Posts: 6,248 9 Photos	Yup! When I'm soloing in E I love to hit that one tone up bend on the 22nd fret, really screams if you do it right! __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." - Tom Waits

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Fatmanstratman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fatmanville, Cambs., UK Posts: 2,850	Hmmm... Well - I go as high as the 14th when playing the intro to 'Dear Prudence' by The Beatles, but any higher and I start to get dizzy.... Last time I touched the 22nd fret was when I was removing one from the neck of a Harley Benton Tele copy that I converted to an Esquire (I hate that ridiculous overhang that fouls the scratchplate); I cut off the offending 'lip' and reshaped the bottom of the neck. If anyone really wants to try out the 22nd fret, I think I may still have it in my bits box somewhere. Free to a good home.... I'm with Big John - barre chords past the 8th are too much like hard work.... __________________ . . . *"Behind every argument is someone's ignorance."*

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Bones Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,921 1 Photos	I try to stay above the 17th

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Tom S Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,211 49 Photos	I'd use the 24th, if it only had one. Double octaves rule!

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GUITARmole Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,117 50 Photos	Of course. Personally though, I don't know that I've ever used the 21st!

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hegn Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 162 1 Photos	If it's there I'll use it, if it's not I really don't miss it. One of my Teles is a ´88 that has 22 frets, I think it's nice to be able to use it and hit that high D once in a while, but I also think that the neck looks wrong somehow with that extension piece of board sticking out...

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charlie chitlin Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bucktown, Pa Age: 47 Posts: 2,279	There's no money above the 10th fret. __________________ Nil illigitimi carborundum http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...6-bf3537901a07

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J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 20 Posts: 6,248 9 Photos	I try and move around the fretboard a bit, why limit yourself unnecessarily? __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." - Tom Waits

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woodman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mint Hill, NC Age: 62 Posts: 5,887	22nd fret the more geezerly i get, the less high notes i play ... don't ride to the top floor much these days. __________________ Truth is stranger than fact ... www.myspace.com/woodymitchellmusic BAND PAGES: www.myspace.com/stragglerswing (Stragglers - Western Swing) www.myspace.com/loafersgloryband (Loafers Glory - '70s country-rock)

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SteveY Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Age: 58 Posts: 1,422	I go to the 20th (a real high "C"), but I don't think my ears can hear anything higher than that!

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bwanasonic Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Arlington, MA Age: 50 Posts: 269 9 Photos	I'm much more likely to use pinch harmonics to get those high squealing notes. I might also use a slide up that high. But I rarely fret that high, even on 24 fret necks. I only have 21-fret tele guitars. Kerry M __________________ http://www.bwanasonic.com/html/sounds.html http://www.lowbudgetrecords.com/pages/chillgroovecd.htm

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emisilly Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 483	To be honest, I rarely ever go past the 7th or 8th fret. In fact, I'd say 75% of the time I dont get pas