Muddy Waters pickguard swap?

nsriley · May 3rd, 2006, 10:35 AM

I've considered taking the plain white guard off my Muddy Tele and putting a three ply or different color on it. But I see is a 9 holer, which is unique I believe. What's a good option without drilling holes in the guitar. Using a vintage style or........

If anyone has swapped theirs, I'd like to see colors used, I'm still on the fence, about going black guard, mint green etc etc.

Thanks,
-Nate

mildwild · May 3rd, 2006, 11:54 AM

I don't know about the holes but mint green on CAR looks great IMHO

Pete Galati · May 3rd, 2006, 11:56 AM

Wow!

http://fender.com/products/prod_imag...8500309_xl.jpg

White's a good color on that guitar actually. If that's a thin single layer pickguard, those are nice IMO because they give you more space between the strings and the pickguard.

I think that some places can duplicate your pickguard from a tracing, so it's no big deal getting a pickguard if you don't feel like drilling new holes in the body.

Pete

Bernie · May 3rd, 2006, 12:03 PM

A stock 5 hole pickguard will fit the Muddy without drilling any extra holes. I imagine you can get one in 3 ply from one of the parts outfits - Warmoth, Allparts, etc.

yegbert · May 3rd, 2006, 12:54 PM

Allparts has some worth looking at.

I haven't heard of an Allparts pickguard not fitting a Tele with holes in positions per the most-common US spec.

The widest range of color options there are 8-hole models, but at least they don't already have the neck pickup screw holes, which gives you more flexibility - you can stick with a body mounted neck pickup, or you can drill holes in the guard if you want to change it to mount the pickup to the guard instead.

Since the pickguard screw holes will be under any replacement pickguard you use, I wouldn't consider it a big deal to drill the 3 additional ones you would need for the standard 8-screw spec compared to the MW 9-hole spec.

In 5-hole types they have white or black in shiny or matte, white also in parchment, black also in bakelite, and then they have mirror and chrome.

But if you decide you specifically want to mount the pickup to the guard and you want to drill the three additional holes in the body for an 8-hole guard, then a Fender branded one made for an Am Std would be a reasonable choice.

Blueblood · May 3rd, 2006, 01:05 PM

I had to drill two holes but if you change your mind, any guard will cover them...

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...44618260RcoLCo

lechip · May 3rd, 2006, 02:01 PM

Oddly enough mine came with a 3-ply mint green (8 hole) guard from the factory.
Blueblood is familiar with my story (PsychoFrancis on the FDP).
But anyway, it looks great. IMHO

As soon as I can get some pics I'll post them.

Chip

timgreene · May 3rd, 2006, 02:10 PM

I put a black 5 hole pickguard, on mine. I like the black with the CAR, makes it look great, with the black knobs.

Personally, I am queasy about drilling the extra holes for the 8 hole pickguard. The stock 9 hole pickguard looks funny to me.

Chip · May 3rd, 2006, 03:03 PM

3 ply mint green with 8 holes
I did drill for the added holes

I also had threaded steel saddles that I've
replaced with the original brass and 60's
reissue knobs. I also have an ashtray cover.
It's a killer '63 reissue now.

chip (number two)

Pete Galati · May 3rd, 2006, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

3 ply mint green with 8 holes
I did drill for the added holes

I also had threaded steel saddles that I've
replaced with the original brass and 60's
reissue knobs. I also have an ashtray cover.
It's a killer '63 reissue now.

chip (number two)

You must be the youngest member of this forum!

RockinCarl · May 3rd, 2006, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Galati

You must be the youngest member of this forum!

You beat me to it...

kerc · May 3rd, 2006, 03:44 PM

Mint, Nate, mint...Looks perfect.

GuitarJonz · May 3rd, 2006, 05:05 PM

The Callaham parchment guard is pretty nice, looks more vintage than the usual "refrigerator-white" pickguard. I gotta admit, a light mint green guard also looks good on the CAR/rosewood combo, but its gotta be very LIGHT. Too many of those replacement guards are way too green.

mildwild · May 3rd, 2006, 05:30 PM

GuitarJonz is correct about some mint guards being too green.

I have a Fender mint green guard is very light.

lechip · May 3rd, 2006, 05:52 PM

Alright!!!!

There's 2 of us named Chip here that have Muddy's with mint green guards.

How cool is that??

:D

Sunburst Island · May 3rd, 2006, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Galati

You must be the youngest member of this forum!

That was hilarious!

I have to agree with Guitarjonz here. A very, very light mint can work without making me think of Christmas time. I prefer the Callaham Parchment 1-ply, I did try an Allparts 3-ply parchment and it worked for me, but I liked the 1-ply better.

yegbert · May 3rd, 2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

A chip off the old block!

pfflam · May 3rd, 2006, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lechip

Alright!!!!

There's 2 of us named Chip here that have Muddy's with mint green guards.

How cool is that??

:D

Mint chip muddy?

. . . . hmmm, ice cream

Pete Galati · May 4th, 2006, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfflam

Quote:

Originally Posted by lechip

Alright!!!!

There's 2 of us named Chip here that have Muddy's with mint green guards.

How cool is that??

:D

Mint chip muddy?

. . . . hmmm, ice cream

From what I hear, Muddy loved ice cream.

nsriley · May 4th, 2006, 12:10 PM

Thanks for your help and thoughts! I'm thinkin a 5 hole parchment or light mint green would be sweet.

-Peace
-Nate

Chip · May 4th, 2006, 02:17 PM

I love how this turned into such a funny thread, that’s why I love this place.
You just don’t know were things will go.

That’s my daughter Grace in the photo. She had just turned two when I took it.

I like the idea of ice cream. We have forum tee shirts and Blueblood has been
working on the bumper stickers and stuff. But ice cream MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

At least there will be two of us buying it - hey lechip?

May 3rd, 2006, 10:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
nsriley TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 85	Muddy Waters pickguard swap? I've considered taking the plain white guard off my Muddy Tele and putting a three ply or different color on it. But I see is a 9 holer, which is unique I believe. What's a good option without drilling holes in the guitar. Using a vintage style or........ If anyone has swapped theirs, I'd like to see colors used, I'm still on the fence, about going black guard, mint green etc etc. Thanks, -Nate __________________ -Peace -Nate

May 3rd, 2006, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bernie Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 515	Pickguard A stock 5 hole pickguard will fit the Muddy without drilling any extra holes. I imagine you can get one in 3 ply from one of the parts outfits - Warmoth, Allparts, etc.

May 3rd, 2006, 12:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
yegbert Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Clinton, Maryland (US) Age: 54 Posts: 4,809 85 Photos	Allparts Allparts has some worth looking at. I haven't heard of an Allparts pickguard not fitting a Tele with holes in positions per the most-common US spec. The widest range of color options there are 8-hole models, but at least they don't already have the neck pickup screw holes, which gives you more flexibility - you can stick with a body mounted neck pickup, or you can drill holes in the guard if you want to change it to mount the pickup to the guard instead. Since the pickguard screw holes will be under any replacement pickguard you use, I wouldn't consider it a big deal to drill the 3 additional ones you would need for the standard 8-screw spec compared to the MW 9-hole spec. In 5-hole types they have white or black in shiny or matte, white also in parchment, black also in bakelite, and then they have mirror and chrome. But if you decide you specifically want to mount the pickup to the guard and you want to drill the three additional holes in the body for an 8-hole guard, then a Fender branded one made for an Am Std would be a reasonable choice.

May 3rd, 2006, 01:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blueblood Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: Directly in front of monitor Age: 55 Posts: 713 36 Photos	8 holers work jus fine... I had to drill two holes but if you change your mind, any guard will cover them... http://community.webshots.com/photo/...44618260RcoLCo __________________ (((((((((((({{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{got mojo?}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}))))))))))))

May 3rd, 2006, 02:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
timgreene Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,257 10 Photos	I put a black 5 hole pickguard, on mine. I like the black with the CAR, makes it look great, with the black knobs. Personally, I am queasy about drilling the extra holes for the 8 hole pickguard. The stock 9 hole pickguard looks funny to me. __________________ opinions expressed are the view of the author, and are not necesarily correct.

May 3rd, 2006, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
mildwild Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 444 53 Photos	I don't know about the holes but mint green on CAR looks great IMHO

May 3rd, 2006, 11:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pete Galati R.I.P. Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,104 2 Photos	Wow! http://fender.com/products/prod_imag...8500309_xl.jpg White's a good color on that guitar actually. If that's a thin single layer pickguard, those are nice IMO because they give you more space between the strings and the pickguard. I think that some places can duplicate your pickguard from a tracing, so it's no big deal getting a pickguard if you don't feel like drilling new holes in the body. Pete

May 3rd, 2006, 02:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
lechip TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA USA Posts: 23	Oddly enough mine came with a 3-ply mint green (8 hole) guard from the factory. Blueblood is familiar with my story (PsychoFrancis on the FDP). But anyway, it looks great. IMHO As soon as I can get some pics I'll post them. Chip

May 3rd, 2006, 03:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chip Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Medina, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 136	Here's Mine 3 ply mint green with 8 holes I did drill for the added holes I also had threaded steel saddles that I've replaced with the original brass and 60's reissue knobs. I also have an ashtray cover. It's a killer '63 reissue now. chip (number two) __________________ Jemima Surrender, I'm gonna give it to you, I'll bring over my Fender And I'll play all night for you. L.Helm and J.R.Robertson

May 3rd, 2006, 03:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
kerc Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Age: 37 Posts: 591	Mint, Nate, mint...Looks perfect. __________________ Hey, try to play your guitar daily!

May 3rd, 2006, 05:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
GuitarJonz Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Mass. Posts: 2,761 7 Photos	Callaham parchment The Callaham parchment guard is pretty nice, looks more vintage than the usual "refrigerator-white" pickguard. I gotta admit, a light mint green guard also looks good on the CAR/rosewood combo, but its gotta be very LIGHT. Too many of those replacement guards are way too green.

May 3rd, 2006, 05:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
mildwild Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 444 53 Photos	GuitarJonz is correct about some mint guards being too green. I have a Fender mint green guard is very light.

May 3rd, 2006, 05:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
lechip TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA USA Posts: 23	Alright!!!! There's 2 of us named Chip here that have Muddy's with mint green guards. How cool is that?? :D

May 4th, 2006, 12:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
nsriley TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 85	Thanks for your help and thoughts! I'm thinkin a 5 hole parchment or light mint green would be sweet. -Peace -Nate __________________ -Peace -Nate

May 4th, 2006, 02:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
Chip Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Medina, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 136	I love how this turned into such a funny thread, that’s why I love this place. You just don’t know were things will go. That’s my daughter Grace in the photo. She had just turned two when I took it. I like the idea of ice cream. We have forum tee shirts and Blueblood has been working on the bumper stickers and stuff. But ice cream MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! At least there will be two of us buying it - hey lechip? __________________ Jemima Surrender, I'm gonna give it to you, I'll bring over my Fender And I'll play all night for you. L.Helm and J.R.Robertson