Blackguard Web Database Project

Aden · March 27th, 2006, 10:23 AM

I was wondering if any of you guys thought there was any scope for creating a early BG database on the web wherebye users could post the guitar pics, serial numbers, Body and Neck Dates etc, Thus creating a compendium for the early fender, we could then create averages and search this data pool for info.
I know we have the telecaster gallery over on Fuzzys site but I was thinking something on a grander scale (no offense intended whatsoever I love those pages) We could catalogue all serials etc, I think it would be wonderful. I was also thinking it may expose fake blackguards due to duplicate serials etc.

What do you guys think, do you think we would get enough people contributing data?
Also what legal implications would there be, Ive been thinking about doing this for a couple of years now.

The ultimate blackguard archive.

Any ideas are welcome..

timmer · March 27th, 2006, 10:28 AM

I was thinking about doing something similar including the completed auctions at eBay to track those as well.

Aden · March 27th, 2006, 10:41 AM

Thats a good idea, we could even have the price it sold for and the date too, What language do you write in for the web?

timmer · March 27th, 2006, 06:12 PM

Just noticed your post...

I don’t really know any specific languages per se. I used to do some web designing and even have a domain and a dot com address; I was going to start a vinyl/tape to CD transferring business but Katrina got all of my equipment before I got my site up. I basically use it now for files and hacks I may need in the field.

I'd gladly devote some space for this!

http://www.myurl/blackguardtracker? How does that sound?

Let me think about the format and if you have any ideas let me know. I'll send you a PM with my email addy.

Timmer

freelingo · March 27th, 2006, 08:47 PM

I have suggested the idea on here, and am definatley willing to contribute. Sounds like a great idea to me.

militele · March 27th, 2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freelingo

I have suggested the idea on here, and am definatley willing to contribute. Sounds like a great idea to me.

I think many others (ie. Nacho, Ole Fuzzy, etc.) would be happy to assist with thier wealth of knowledge. Understand, I am in no way volunteering thier service, or qualified to give feedback. Just a thought. BTW, it's a great idea!

bunkymark · March 27th, 2006, 11:11 PM

The G&L Tribute Page (www.guitarsbyleo.com) has a registry of predominantly limited edition models. I suppose you might want to do something similar. My concern is the owners of these high dollar instruments would be reluctant to disclose some personal information, even though collecting this information would benefit those owners as well as those in the future. It's a good idea and I'd participate, but I think you'll have some convincing to do to make it successful.

Why could it not reside here?

0477 · March 27th, 2006, 11:27 PM

I have always thought that this kind of thing should be created. It would help in the tracking and flow of these guitars. I got ripped off big time the first time I bought a "Broadcaster." It took many years before I decided to try and buy another. (Turned out well.)

mojocasterman · March 28th, 2006, 12:10 AM

I have a bunch of webservers. I would definitely gladly give free webspace for this project... feel free to contact me!

PeterUK · March 28th, 2006, 03:33 AM

I own www.fender-tele.com. I'd gladly donate it to this worthy cause. It's currently parked at GoDaddy right now.

:D Peter

Aden · March 28th, 2006, 04:37 AM

I didnt get any response then BANG your all here at once...
Thanks for offers of domains and webspace... Thats really generous of you guys...

It really has put fire inside me for this, I think it will be a great project where we can all participate and get a great result, Pure archive from the earliest blackguards to the later ones, Including as much information as we can get on each guitar, cross referencing will help us draw averages etc. The ability to upload pics and tracking information. Im going to start on this v soon and create a demo version so ill post the links for you guys to check out. Its gonna be good man!

Keep the ideas coming though, the more the merrier.

Also againm if anyone has any thoughts on legal stuff, I might wanna avoid etc...

timmer · March 28th, 2006, 12:30 PM

that some (most?) people may not want their information online, especially with the privacy issues these days.

Having said that, I believe we could just track online sales and auction sites because it's already in the public domain. We would actually be offering a service to the Telecaster buying community; something like CARFAX for guitars.

For a while I was collecting Tele info from eBay and here as a personal project so I could have a reference (with detailed pictures) of every model year.

How about this: Creating a reference for every model year in every official color? Sort of like Natsteel's neck date project. Then we could branch out with custom colors and features too.

Just thinking out loud here...

mojocasterman · March 28th, 2006, 10:39 PM

well, do let me know if you want this web space. I can set up the account as soon as you need it :)

March 27th, 2006, 10:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Aden Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Age: 26 Posts: 146	Blackguard Web Database Project I was wondering if any of you guys thought there was any scope for creating a early BG database on the web wherebye users could post the guitar pics, serial numbers, Body and Neck Dates etc, Thus creating a compendium for the early fender, we could then create averages and search this data pool for info. I know we have the telecaster gallery over on Fuzzys site but I was thinking something on a grander scale (no offense intended whatsoever I love those pages) We could catalogue all serials etc, I think it would be wonderful. I was also thinking it may expose fake blackguards due to duplicate serials etc. What do you guys think, do you think we would get enough people contributing data? Also what legal implications would there be, Ive been thinking about doing this for a couple of years now. The ultimate blackguard archive. Any ideas are welcome.. __________________ The messiah will come again.....

March 27th, 2006, 10:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
Aden Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Age: 26 Posts: 146	Yeah Thats a good idea, we could even have the price it sold for and the date too, What language do you write in for the web? __________________ The messiah will come again.....

March 27th, 2006, 08:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
freelingo TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 31	I'm on board I have suggested the idea on here, and am definatley willing to contribute. Sounds like a great idea to me. __________________ "He understood that as a musician, his pallete was silence."

March 27th, 2006, 11:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
bunkymark NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 5 3 Photos	Blackguard Registry? The G&L Tribute Page (www.guitarsbyleo.com) has a registry of predominantly limited edition models. I suppose you might want to do something similar. My concern is the owners of these high dollar instruments would be reluctant to disclose some personal information, even though collecting this information would benefit those owners as well as those in the future. It's a good idea and I'd participate, but I think you'll have some convincing to do to make it successful. Why could it not reside here?

March 28th, 2006, 12:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
mojocasterman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,279	I have a bunch of webservers. I would definitely gladly give free webspace for this project... feel free to contact me! __________________ Lentz HSL - McNaught SC Jr - Tom Anderson Cobra w/ 3 P90s - Crook Custom Tele w/ Lollar & TV Jones - Trussart Deluxe Steelcaster - Vinetto Legato - Grosh Bent Top S - SRV Strat - Ovation Elite T - Dr. Z. Carmen Ghia & Mini Z - Fender Tweed Blues Junior.

March 27th, 2006, 11:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
0477 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1	I have always thought that this kind of thing should be created. It would help in the tracking and flow of these guitars. I got ripped off big time the first time I bought a "Broadcaster." It took many years before I decided to try and buy another. (Turned out well.)

March 28th, 2006, 03:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
PeterUK Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 2,830	Suitable URL I own www.fender-tele.com. I'd gladly donate it to this worthy cause. It's currently parked at GoDaddy right now. :D Peter __________________ .

March 28th, 2006, 04:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
Aden Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Age: 26 Posts: 146	Wow.. I didnt get any response then BANG your all here at once... Thanks for offers of domains and webspace... Thats really generous of you guys... It really has put fire inside me for this, I think it will be a great project where we can all participate and get a great result, Pure archive from the earliest blackguards to the later ones, Including as much information as we can get on each guitar, cross referencing will help us draw averages etc. The ability to upload pics and tracking information. Im going to start on this v soon and create a demo version so ill post the links for you guys to check out. Its gonna be good man! Keep the ideas coming though, the more the merrier. Also againm if anyone has any thoughts on legal stuff, I might wanna avoid etc... __________________ The messiah will come again.....

March 28th, 2006, 10:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
mojocasterman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,279	well, do let me know if you want this web space. I can set up the account as soon as you need it :) __________________ Lentz HSL - McNaught SC Jr - Tom Anderson Cobra w/ 3 P90s - Crook Custom Tele w/ Lollar & TV Jones - Trussart Deluxe Steelcaster - Vinetto Legato - Grosh Bent Top S - SRV Strat - Ovation Elite T - Dr. Z. Carmen Ghia & Mini Z - Fender Tweed Blues Junior.