Blacklights and Refins?

[timmer]

I've seen some posts regarding the use of a blacklight in detecting overspray and/or refins. Can someone expound on that?

For instance when I think of overspray, the picture in my mind is someone missing the target and hitting something else when spraying. Is this correct?

What are the things to look for when trying to detect a refin?

Is there a preferred method of photographing a blacklighted object?

Thanks,
Timmer

[Mark Davis]

Overspray is sorta misleading. Overspray has always ment to me a sloppy job where masking tape isnt used and a color is oversprayed.

On guitars it should really be called sprayedover.

Some people when they see a worn out Tele or Strat neck will spray it with clear lacquer and spray over the old finish.

A refinish is a complete stripping/sanding so no original finish stays overspray is simply painting right on top of the old finish.

[timmer]

I can grasp the "sprayover" concept, but with refins, is a finish underneath another visable using a blacklight? If so, what are the tell-tales and how would one photograph it?

Do you remember the ghost tele thread?

Here is a link to it, even though the pics are not available on the thread now, I saved them at the time and will post a couple below.

Nocaster Relic Cunetto era Spooky Finish, Seen this?






Is this the same concept?

Thanks...

[andrew]

Do a search under Vince's name, and you will see a thread from about a month ago where I asked him about those finishes because of that one, and one other that was simular, and he said that they (his team and Fender) and nothing to do with it.

[eryque]

I did a google search on "blacklight refin" and came up with exactly 1 hit that was in any way informative. The pictures don't demonstrate the idea very well, but they help:

http://www.flyingvintage.com/gcmag/BlackLight.html


Those guitars with the flowers that appear under the blacklight are something different altogether. If I remember right, I believe there were a few made at Fender in the late 60s at the height of the psychedelic era like that. It was just a gimmick.

[Les Pierce]

I had a new Tele in the very early '70s, black in color, that had a green glow to it under a blacklight. Not cool, in those times, as every bar had a blacklight.

[timmer]

That's exactly what I was looking for!

[0le FUZZY]

The black light is a useful tool to add to your bag when looking at instruments, but you must exercise judgment. An experienced eye for finishes is better than 100 black lights.

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[timmer]

I understand that Fuzzy and I have accepted the fact that mine is a refin. This is more a learning process and having another tool in my arsenal.

Thanks,
Timmer

[poorplayer]

Also check out Nacho's book -- he's got some nice pics of what a refin looks like vs a factory fin under a black light, right next to each other. I think roughly speaking, a factory finish will glow, while a refn will be dark.