Blackguard Prices

curtis · February 6th, 2006, 03:53 PM

I looked away for a moment and prices seemed to have jumped from $23k to $30k for an average condition BG. After today, sellers will be asking even more.

Why does this happen - do the dealers get into a huddle at a big US guitar show, reach a consensus on where they would like prices to be, and then hike their prices to that level and wait until buyers start to persuade themself that the new level is painful but manageable? When do the price guide books come out? After a key show?

I have been wondering if dealers buying onEbay is responsible for pushing up prices? In the old days you took your guitar to a dealer and he offered you 70% of its market price, sold it for 100%. Next guitar, same deal and no increase in the price. Compare to Ebay, a dealer buys at $58,100 and puts it on the market at $70k. People see the $70k and then think "maybe I will get lucky bidding $65k on Ebay". And so on.

plaintop · February 6th, 2006, 04:55 PM

supply, demand, baby boomers with more cash then they know what to do with.

darkgable · February 6th, 2006, 05:59 PM

The other problem is dealers don't even know what to charge themselves. With Epay new record prices are set in days not months or by the year like the good old days. I really can't fathom where they might go price wise. Is 100K really that far off for a clean no excuse Blackguard?

Masterbuilt · February 6th, 2006, 06:40 PM

But how many available really have no excuses?

plaintop · February 6th, 2006, 09:11 PM

I personally think the ebay guitar that sold recently was a little low. These guitars, while not rare, are in very limited supply. As with anything vintage or collectable, it's all about what someone is willing to pay. I think 100k blackguards are right around the corner. I'm sure a clean Broadcaster would absolutely command that right now.

February 6th, 2006, 03:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
curtis Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greenwich UK Posts: 109	Blackguard Prices I looked away for a moment and prices seemed to have jumped from $23k to $30k for an average condition BG. After today, sellers will be asking even more. Why does this happen - do the dealers get into a huddle at a big US guitar show, reach a consensus on where they would like prices to be, and then hike their prices to that level and wait until buyers start to persuade themself that the new level is painful but manageable? When do the price guide books come out? After a key show? I have been wondering if dealers buying onEbay is responsible for pushing up prices? In the old days you took your guitar to a dealer and he offered you 70% of its market price, sold it for 100%. Next guitar, same deal and no increase in the price. Compare to Ebay, a dealer buys at $58,100 and puts it on the market at $70k. People see the $70k and then think "maybe I will get lucky bidding $65k on Ebay". And so on.

February 6th, 2006, 06:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Masterbuilt Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London,UK Posts: 317	But how many available really have no excuses? __________________ Did Leo make another guitar?

February 6th, 2006, 04:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
plaintop Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 278	supply, demand, baby boomers with more cash then they know what to do with.

February 6th, 2006, 05:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
darkgable Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 286	The other problem is dealers don't even know what to charge themselves. With Epay new record prices are set in days not months or by the year like the good old days. I really can't fathom where they might go price wise. Is 100K really that far off for a clean no excuse Blackguard?

February 6th, 2006, 09:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
plaintop Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 278	I personally think the ebay guitar that sold recently was a little low. These guitars, while not rare, are in very limited supply. As with anything vintage or collectable, it's all about what someone is willing to pay. I think 100k blackguards are right around the corner. I'm sure a clean Broadcaster would absolutely command that right now.