Just A Little Misleading?

vic108 · December 5th, 2005, 11:04 AM

Judge for yourself...

Maybe this guy makes some great guitars,
I don't know but someone was asking me
about this guitar and SOMETHING looked
funny to me. The upper bout for that era
(and it suppose to be a RI inspired, right?) and
electronics for instance seemed wrong.

"The parts used by us are bought from Fender
authorized dealers" doesn't mean that they ARE
actually FENDER PARTS. I'm no expert, but the
PIXS and the wording in the auction seemed a
LITTLE funny.

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Maybe this gentleman is a member here.
And like I said, maybe he makes a great guitar
but to the untrained eye it could be a bit confusing?

I mean, if it's an ALL PARTS kit, SAY SO!
(WARMOTH is better IMHO)

68tele · December 5th, 2005, 01:39 PM

The relicing looks extremely cheesy. Neck has 6" radius?! - oh, really?

Poppatwang · December 5th, 2005, 01:42 PM

in saying the neck, body & pups are licensed Fender parts.
Looks pretty straight forward to me.

popthree · December 5th, 2005, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68tele

The relicing looks extremely cheesy. Neck has 6" radius?! - oh, really?

lol, that is a lamo relic job. 600 plus dollars? what the heck? i'd be buying a real fender, american made.

Mark Davis · December 5th, 2005, 02:41 PM

51 Teles didnt have the exposed screws to adjust the neck pickup it was underneath. Thats the 1st mistake I saw.

Its just a parts guitar worth about $350 tops.

RockinCarl · December 5th, 2005, 02:52 PM

6" radius

"Bender Special."

David Barnett · December 5th, 2005, 02:59 PM

Wrong tuners.

Michael Murphy · December 5th, 2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Davis

51 Teles didnt have the exposed screws to adjust the neck pickup it was underneath. Thats the 1st mistake I saw.

Or non-slotted tuner posts, or Noiseless pickups, and, and, and...

For a "Replica", that thing misses the mark by quite a ways.

And that's gotta be some of the worst relicing I've seen (in an understated way). Usually a bad relic job is where somebody got out the belt sander and hammer and went to town on a poly body, going way over the top. This one is such an un-reliced relic it's not even funny. The chrome? Come on. And what was he trying to simulate on the neck wear, 50 years of dirty hands?

"Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat bar."

Yeesh!

-Michael
Charter Member S. Texas He-Man Emoticon Haters Local #316

Dave W · December 5th, 2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppatwang

in saying the neck, body & pups are licensed Fender parts.
Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Yes, because you and I understand that "Fender licensed components" means they were manufactured by a third party under license, and not by Fender.

But does the average eBay buyer understand that?

sidneystreet · December 5th, 2005, 03:08 PM

"Fender "Noiseless" vintage like pick-ups with the DC resistance of 8.6 at the bridge and 12.0 at the neck"

Is it just his clueless incorrect description, or does he think they had "noiseless" pups for teles in '51? And what's up with those DC readings? Also, that relic job is a joke.

andrew · December 5th, 2005, 03:13 PM

I don't think he is trying t otrick people based on the fact that in bigger font he says, "This Telecaster captures the essence of most all the features of the '51 as a true replica"

He states it is a replica in the first couple of lines, which have a larger font.

Lostheart · December 5th, 2005, 03:15 PM

Everyone...do yourself a favor and look through his feedback and see the stuff that he bought in the recent past:
"RELIC YOUR FENDER STRAT VINTAGE CUSTOM SHOP SECRETS CD"
...LOL!
A must-have for every respected luthier...especially those that have been building & setting up guitars since 1966!

sidneystreet · December 5th, 2005, 03:31 PM

That guitar does not capture "the essence of most all the features of the '51." Not even close. It's a cheap partscaster. The tuners, pickguard, pickups, etc are all wrong.

He should have called it a telecaster-style partscaster. We all know why he makes the reference to a '51 telecaster, and that is to trick some unsuspecting newbie into paying a little more for it than it is worth.

vic108 · December 5th, 2005, 08:51 PM

OMG!!! It sold for Winning bid: US $743.99

MAN! That's alot of $$$ for a partscaster
that has a few interesting issues...

ToneFan · December 5th, 2005, 09:07 PM

I seem to remember an old phrase attributed to P.T. Barnum...

Something about "There's a sucker born every minute"...

It certainly is a seller's market up there on The Bay...

Montana_Dawg · December 5th, 2005, 11:03 PM

Two things wrong (in addition to the others posted):

The '51s used .05 uF caps, not .022uF.

The disclaimer states, "We do not imply to sell Fender guitars." Sorry, but if you slap a Fender decal on the headstock, then you ARE implying it is a Fender guitar, even if you claim it is not. At least, that is how Fender sees it.

Wild Rice Chris · December 5th, 2005, 11:24 PM

That is not an Allparts neck, my guess is Mighty-Mite. Probably the stew-mac special.

December 5th, 2005, 11:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
vic108 Tele-Holic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mudwogweap, VA Age: 52 Posts: 947 9 Photos	Just A Little Misleading? Judge for yourself... Maybe this guy makes some great guitars, I don't know but someone was asking me about this guitar and SOMETHING looked funny to me. The upper bout for that era (and it suppose to be a RI inspired, right?) and electronics for instance seemed wrong. "The parts used by us are bought from Fender authorized dealers" doesn't mean that they ARE actually FENDER PARTS. I'm no expert, but the PIXS and the wording in the auction seemed a LITTLE funny. LINK SHORTENED BY WEBMASTER Maybe this gentleman is a member here. And like I said, maybe he makes a great guitar but to the untrained eye it could be a bit confusing? I mean, if it's an ALL PARTS kit, SAY SO! (WARMOTH is better IMHO) __________________ Guitars will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no guitars

December 5th, 2005, 01:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Poppatwang Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,892 13 Photos	He's specific... in saying the neck, body & pups are licensed Fender parts. Looks pretty straight forward to me. __________________ The Dieselfitters http://www.dieselfitters.com Roy Hubbs http://www.royhubbs.com

December 5th, 2005, 02:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,876	51 Teles didnt have the exposed screws to adjust the neck pickup it was underneath. Thats the 1st mistake I saw. Its just a parts guitar worth about $350 tops. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

December 5th, 2005, 03:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lostheart Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,408	Everyone...do yourself a favor and look through his feedback and see the stuff that he bought in the recent past: "RELIC YOUR FENDER STRAT VINTAGE CUSTOM SHOP SECRETS CD" ...LOL! A must-have for every respected luthier...especially those that have been building & setting up guitars since 1966! __________________ Casper: "Mmmmm. Butterscotch, yo. That's the best!" From the movie Kids

December 5th, 2005, 03:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
sidneystreet Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,238	Replica means just that, and this ain't one That guitar does not capture "the essence of most all the features of the '51." Not even close. It's a cheap partscaster. The tuners, pickguard, pickups, etc are all wrong. He should have called it a telecaster-style partscaster. We all know why he makes the reference to a '51 telecaster, and that is to trick some unsuspecting newbie into paying a little more for it than it is worth.

December 5th, 2005, 01:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
68tele Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northport LI Posts: 661	The relicing looks extremely cheesy. Neck has 6" radius?! - oh, really?

December 5th, 2005, 02:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
RockinCarl Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,480	6" radius "Bender Special."

December 5th, 2005, 02:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LIttle Rock, AR Age: 52 Posts: 5,434	Wrong tuners.

December 5th, 2005, 03:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
sidneystreet Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,238	"Fender "Noiseless" vintage like pick-ups with the DC resistance of 8.6 at the bridge and 12.0 at the neck" Is it just his clueless incorrect description, or does he think they had "noiseless" pups for teles in '51? And what's up with those DC readings? Also, that relic job is a joke.

December 5th, 2005, 03:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
andrew Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: Valley Ranch, TX Posts: 799 5 Photos	I don't think he is trying t otrick people based on the fact that in bigger font he says, "This Telecaster captures the essence of most all the features of the '51 as a true replica" He states it is a replica in the first couple of lines, which have a larger font.

December 5th, 2005, 08:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
vic108 Tele-Holic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mudwogweap, VA Age: 52 Posts: 947 9 Photos	OMG!!! It sold for Winning bid: US $743.99 MAN! That's alot of $$$ for a partscaster that has a few interesting issues... __________________ Guitars will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no guitars

December 5th, 2005, 09:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
ToneFan Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York, NY Age: 44 Posts: 296 11 Photos	$743.99... I seem to remember an old phrase attributed to P.T. Barnum... Something about "There's a sucker born every minute"... It certainly is a seller's market up there on The Bay... __________________ Visit my Web Page @ http://myspace.com/joemartin

December 5th, 2005, 11:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
Montana_Dawg Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oregon, but from Montana Posts: 535	Two things wrong (in addition to the others posted): The '51s used .05 uF caps, not .022uF. The disclaimer states, "We do not imply to sell Fender guitars." Sorry, but if you slap a Fender decal on the headstock, then you ARE implying it is a Fender guitar, even if you claim it is not. At least, that is how Fender sees it. __________________ I would rather be a jack-of-all-trades and master of none, than be a one trick-pony out of a job.

December 5th, 2005, 11:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Wild Rice Chris Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rice Custom Dungeon Posts: 2,867 27 Photos	That is not an Allparts neck, my guess is Mighty-Mite. Probably the stew-mac special. __________________ "The children need to learn how to build their own environment and make their own music that is inspired by their roots."--Eugene Hütz "All music turns out to be ethnic music."--Steve Reich Enjoy, and please visit my homepage.