Is that a real US tele or fake?

bigou · November 18th, 2005, 11:40 AM

The guy told me taht it's made uin USA? Is that real?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1

cdobbs7977 · November 18th, 2005, 11:54 AM

What's the serial number? That's usually the dead giveaway. Its probably on the backside of the headstock. Nice looking tele, just needs a little TLC.

jazzguitar · November 18th, 2005, 12:02 PM

Looks good to me, but the pics are not very clear. Ask the seller to email you pics of the headstock decal, the headstock back and the neck plate.

It does not look to me like the pics are unclear by design.

boogaloo · November 18th, 2005, 12:03 PM

but I'd be very suspicious for two reasons-

1- the ad says the CASE is made in Corona California (the way it could be read-might just be poor use of english on the part of the seller too). And..

2-there are no close-ups of the guitar, particularly those areas which one usually submits as proof of authenticity: headstock, serial number, neck and neck pocket markings, fret board (some here, like Ol Fuzzy can tell you a boatload of stuff just by looking at the neck. I'm not that good myself..)

I see you've already bid- be careful. I'd ask for some closeups. Then again, for the price it might be a nice axe anyway-your call.

Brian

bigou · November 18th, 2005, 12:09 PM

My bid is really low and I think the guy didn't know much about guitars. So I think I will take a chance.

boogaloo · November 18th, 2005, 12:11 PM

Right- and the body looks great- looks like a nice piece of ash. So like I said- at that price you'll probably get a great axe either way. Hey- let us know how you make out.

Brian

bigou · November 18th, 2005, 12:17 PM

Hi guys.

I got the serial number serial # Z0138906.

Is that US made?

boogaloo · November 18th, 2005, 12:33 PM

the "Z" prefix began in 2000. And a Z followed by 0 and five or six numbers afterward is a 2000 USA made tele.

Sounds like you are doing very well so far... :D

Brian

bigou · November 18th, 2005, 12:36 PM

I hope that I got it at that price?? The only problem will be the canadian custom fees... Anyway here in Montreal a used US tele goes around 900$ canadian. I think I can't lose!!!

Raymond · November 18th, 2005, 02:16 PM

Talking about crappy pictures. The bridge is definitively MIA and the serial number corresponds to a MIA as well. It should be fine. My only problem is that I think natural ash only comes with a maple neck (see here; scroll down; at the end).

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Originally Posted by bigou

I hope that I got it at that price?? The only problem will be the canadian custom fees...

That should be the least of your worries... by posting the auction here you've increased the number of potential bidders... Professional snipers are lurking; I know. It's happened to me...

I really hope you can get it as cheap a possible and that it turns out to be the real deal. Good luck.

boogaloo · November 18th, 2005, 02:49 PM

Dang- looks like he either got sniped or outbid..

Brian

Vince a · November 18th, 2005, 02:51 PM

Although the numbers are right . . . I'm doubtful about it for some reason.

It's the wood grain . . . I have a Natural finish (721) American Standard, and the grain doesn't look anything like that. I used to have a Strat with a Natural finish, and it didn't look like that! It looks weird!

But of course, I yield that not all the wood that goes into making a gutiar comes from the same tree!

boogaloo · November 18th, 2005, 03:13 PM

It looks like a nice piece of wood but the grain is a little too pronounced. Are you thinking aftermarket body? If it had a butterscotch finish I'd say it looked closer to the grain patterns on a 52 RI.

Maybe one of the experts will chime in- I'm curoius now.

0le FUZZY · November 18th, 2005, 03:22 PM

Don't worry about it bigou.

That body looks for all the world like a Samick because
of the wood grain, color and the upper bout where it
hooks tew the neck.

The neck's 12th fret marker dots are good but the
decal (from watt tie kin cee) don't match with the year
of the stated serial number.

Buyin a TELECASTER from a guy hoo buys and sells
glasses, games, liddo cheap tools and wedding rings
ain't a gonna giff yew a knowledgeable ant-sir anyway.

0le FUZZY

Mike Fleming · November 18th, 2005, 03:40 PM

You mean this picture isn't helpful?

Mike

Hollandcaster · November 19th, 2005, 08:23 AM

For sure!
Crappy pictures, but original USA stand. Tele 721 colour, correct case for the serial number.
Nice guitar!

Colo Springs E · November 19th, 2005, 09:55 AM

....this guitar is about 15 minutes from where I live, I coulda checked it out for you. I looked at the auction too, considered buying in person but at the time not really in the market.

Bout the crappiest pics I've ever seen.

Did you win??

November 18th, 2005, 11:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
bigou TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 53	Is that a real US tele or fake? The guy told me taht it's made uin USA? Is that real? http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1

November 18th, 2005, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
boogaloo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: S/E Pa. Age: 52 Posts: 1,129	Can't Really Say For Sure but I'd be very suspicious for two reasons- 1- the ad says the CASE is made in Corona California (the way it could be read-might just be poor use of english on the part of the seller too). And.. 2-there are no close-ups of the guitar, particularly those areas which one usually submits as proof of authenticity: headstock, serial number, neck and neck pocket markings, fret board (some here, like Ol Fuzzy can tell you a boatload of stuff just by looking at the neck. I'm not that good myself..) I see you've already bid- be careful. I'd ask for some closeups. Then again, for the price it might be a nice axe anyway-your call. Brian __________________ "..and I've got some tricks up my sleeve...oh yes indeed! It might come back to haunt 'cha..don't you throw that Mojo on me!"

November 18th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
boogaloo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: S/E Pa. Age: 52 Posts: 1,129	Right- and the body looks great- looks like a nice piece of ash. So like I said- at that price you'll probably get a great axe either way. Hey- let us know how you make out. Brian __________________ "..and I've got some tricks up my sleeve...oh yes indeed! It might come back to haunt 'cha..don't you throw that Mojo on me!"

November 18th, 2005, 12:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
boogaloo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: S/E Pa. Age: 52 Posts: 1,129	According to Mr. Gearhead the "Z" prefix began in 2000. And a Z followed by 0 and five or six numbers afterward is a 2000 USA made tele. Sounds like you are doing very well so far... :D Brian __________________ "..and I've got some tricks up my sleeve...oh yes indeed! It might come back to haunt 'cha..don't you throw that Mojo on me!"

November 18th, 2005, 02:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
boogaloo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: S/E Pa. Age: 52 Posts: 1,129	Dang- looks like he either got sniped or outbid.. Brian __________________ "..and I've got some tricks up my sleeve...oh yes indeed! It might come back to haunt 'cha..don't you throw that Mojo on me!"

November 18th, 2005, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
cdobbs7977 TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 61 2 Photos	What's the serial number? That's usually the dead giveaway. Its probably on the backside of the headstock. Nice looking tele, just needs a little TLC.

November 18th, 2005, 12:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
jazzguitar Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 280	Looks good to me, but the pics are not very clear. Ask the seller to email you pics of the headstock decal, the headstock back and the neck plate. It does not look to me like the pics are unclear by design.

November 18th, 2005, 12:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigou TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 53	My bid is really low and I think the guy didn't know much about guitars. So I think I will take a chance.

November 18th, 2005, 12:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigou TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 53	Hi guys. I got the serial number serial # Z0138906. Is that US made?

November 18th, 2005, 12:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigou TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 53	I hope that I got it at that price?? The only problem will be the canadian custom fees... Anyway here in Montreal a used US tele goes around 900$ canadian. I think I can't lose!!!

November 18th, 2005, 02:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Vince a Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Modesto, CA Age: 62 Posts: 771	Although the numbers are right . . . I'm doubtful about it for some reason. It's the wood grain . . . I have a Natural finish (721) American Standard, and the grain doesn't look anything like that. I used to have a Strat with a Natural finish, and it didn't look like that! It looks weird! But of course, I yield that not all the wood that goes into making a gutiar comes from the same tree!

November 18th, 2005, 03:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
boogaloo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: S/E Pa. Age: 52 Posts: 1,129	It looks like a nice piece of wood but the grain is a little too pronounced. Are you thinking aftermarket body? If it had a butterscotch finish I'd say it looked closer to the grain patterns on a 52 RI. Maybe one of the experts will chime in- I'm curoius now. __________________ "..and I've got some tricks up my sleeve...oh yes indeed! It might come back to haunt 'cha..don't you throw that Mojo on me!"

November 18th, 2005, 03:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	Don't worry about it bigou. That body looks for all the world like a Samick because of the wood grain, color and the upper bout where it hooks tew the neck. The neck's 12th fret marker dots are good but the decal (from watt tie kin cee) don't match with the year of the stated serial number. Buyin a TELECASTER from a guy hoo buys and sells glasses, games, liddo cheap tools and wedding rings ain't a gonna giff yew a knowledgeable ant-sir anyway. 0le FUZZY

November 18th, 2005, 03:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mike Fleming Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 378	You mean this picture isn't helpful? Mike

November 19th, 2005, 08:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
Hollandcaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Waalwijk, Holland Age: 36 Posts: 114	100% USA For sure! Crappy pictures, but original USA stand. Tele 721 colour, correct case for the serial number. Nice guitar! __________________ http://myspace.com/nowwsteph play tele's and don't look back

November 19th, 2005, 09:55 AM	#17 (permalink)
Colo Springs E Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 5,204 5 Photos	Wish I'd seen sooner.... ....this guitar is about 15 minutes from where I live, I coulda checked it out for you. I looked at the auction too, considered buying in person but at the time not really in the market. Bout the crappiest pics I've ever seen. Did you win?? __________________ Think I'll pack it in and Buy a pickup Take it down to LA...