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Old March 25th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fender Japan Tele TL-52 anyone?

Is anyone here owning a Fender Japan Telecaster 50s Reissue (TL-52)?

Could you please tell me about the neck of this guitar, is it that really fat, chunky 50s neck? Round or V-shaped?

I mailed to Ishibashi about the type and shape of the neck (also if they could tell me the difference between the neck of the TL-52 and the TL-62B), but they answered, that they can’t tell me the difference.

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Old March 25th, 2013, 09:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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MOST TL52s have a nice, thick vee neck. But not all.

I have two TL52s.

One has the thick V-shaped neck that I really, really love. The second one doesn't have the vee shape, but it's more of a really full C. Both are 7.25, vintage frets.

I also have TL62B. It's a much thinner C neck. Way thinner. Still a nice neck, but I prefer the full ones.

I love my TL52s. Two of my best guitars, including my #1.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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MOST TL52s have a nice, thick vee neck. But not all.

I have two TL52s.

One has the thick V-shaped neck that I really, really love. The second one doesn't have the vee shape, but it's more of a really full C. Both are 7.25, vintage frets.

I also have TL62B. It's a much thinner C neck. Way thinner. Still a nice neck, but I prefer the full ones.

I love my TL52s. Two of my best guitars, including my #1.
Thank you superbadj!

I much prefer the full C shape.

Do you know; is there any difference in the name of the item that specifies the neck shape? Just to be sure not to order the wrong one.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 01:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Maybe ask for a photo of the neck?

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Old March 25th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Nah, don't really know that. I have a TL52-80 and TL52-70. The -80 has the Vee neck. But these are both from the 90's, so specs have likely changed since then.

FYI, AllParts necks are exactly the same as Fender Japan necks. I don't mean similar. From what I understand...they're made side-by-side at the same plants.

THe AllParts TMO-V is the exact same neck as the lovely, thick Vee shape on my #1 TL52. I know because I had an Esquire built using that neck, and I've compared them. IDENTICAL.


So you might want to consider going the partscaster route, using a nice body, the aftermarket pups you like, and an AllParts TMO-V. You'll get everything you're looking for, without spending more money than you likely would on a new Fender Japan model.

If you don't want to build it/finish it, have someone else do it (my Esquire was done by Mark Jenny, who sells on Ebay under MJTele).

Just a thought. As I said, I love my TL52s. So that's certainly a great option. Just can't help you in terms of knowing which models get which necks!
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Old March 25th, 2013, 06:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I used to have a TL52, the neck had a slimmish C profile. Not as thin as a CV, probably about the same as my Blacktop.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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this is my CIJ52SPL Micawbre next to my 52RI. same U shape, but a bit thinner.
great necks!
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I got a TL52-TX. Neckprofile: U-shape. Its from 97
Love the guitar and its quality in workmanship and wood.
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Sometimes, when I sell a guitar on line over here, I place rubber bands on the neck at different frets and snap pics, really helps to show the shape a neck has...colored elastics work better for me, like dark green ones, they show up better against the maple necks.
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Old March 29th, 2013, 06:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think the neck shapes on the tl52s changed. Originally they were v shaped and have now moved to a d unless you get a vsp.
This may help
http://www.guitar-emporium.co.uk/Fender_Japan_Tele.html
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Old March 29th, 2013, 07:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I place rubber bands on the neck at different frets and snap pics, really helps to show the shape a neck has.
I am definitely borrowing this tip in the future. Thanks for sharing.

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Old March 29th, 2013, 10:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think the neck shapes on the tl52s changed. Originally they were v shaped and have now moved to a d unless you get a vsp.
This may help
http://www.guitar-emporium.co.uk/Fender_Japan_Tele.html
But that says that the MIM classic has a V shape, which is wrong. I have one of those necks, and it's a very nice neck. But it's not a V shape.
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I think the neck shapes on the tl52s changed. Originally they were v shaped and have now moved to a d unless you get a vsp.
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http://www.guitar-emporium.co.uk/Fender_Japan_Tele.html
That is exactly what I found out meanwhile.
The Fender Japan official website lists every Tele with an "Oval Neck" except for the VSP model.

I'm about to order a TL52 Tele with natural finish from Ishibashi. The only thing I would like to know is how the Tele I'm going to buy really looks like.
The photos on the webpage are only samples I was told by Grace from Ishibashi.
Guess I'll write another mail, asking if they don't have any photos of the actual instrument.
With a natural finish, the grain and look of the wood is crucial.
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Mine was a TL-52 VNT and it had a soft V neck even though the heel was stamped with a D. The workmanship was outstanding but I just couldn't get on with the neck.
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Maybe ask for a photo of the neck?

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I gather from my limited experience with Ishibashi that you see a guitar you like on their website - and they check stock at all their shops for a match - the person answering web-queries may be many hundreds of miles from the guitar that actually ships.
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Yes but if it is something in the U-Box, as soon as someone asks about a guitar, they place it on hold for a couple of days....at least they used to...and you can ask for more pics, they are very helpful, or were last time I used em...been a few years now.
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Yes but if it is something in the U-Box, as soon as someone asks about a guitar, they place it on hold for a couple of days....at least they used to...and you can ask for more pics, they are very helpful, or were last time I used em...been a few years now.
Good point. Didn't think of the U-Box yet, but there they'll have photos showing the actual item on sale, I guess. Maybe I should check the U-Box...
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I have just bought a CIJ TL-52 TX with a "Q" serial number which supposedly makes it a 2002 - 2004 model. It has a distinct soft V shape, very different from the C shape of a ~2008 TL-52 I had before.

I would like to put in a recommendation here for the Japanese Digimart website where I got my latest TL-52TX while in Japan. If you can get someone to help you with the language it is a great place to shop, especially if you are in Japan. I ordered from a shop called Guitar Shelter in Tokyo. With typical Japanese efficiency it arrived the next morning with free shipping and perfectly packed to a city 200 km away. I paid about 58,000 yen compared to a new one at Ishibashi etc. which is about 79,000 yen I believe. Mine was rated on the website as "A" grade but I'm still looking for any nicks etc. which would mark it as not new - amazing especially as it's 10 years old. So, I saved a few hundred dollars and got an as-new guitar.

By the way, the one I just bought has a whitish USB finish which doesn't seem to be offered any more on this model.
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Digimart is a place where many shops list their goods, and last time I checked, most won`t ship abroad.
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I have a TL-52US from around 2008 which has a very nice neck indeed. It is a C-section, quite full but not overly thick, but what distinguishes it are the fingerboard edges. These are not sharp and "square" like many Fender maple necks, but have a slight roll to them, which makes the neck extremely comfortable to play. The whole guitar is beautifully made; I would say the build quality is superior overall to that of my American Vintage '62 Custom Reissue. Needless to say it sounds great too.

I bought mine from the UK specialist private importer John Blackman at Far East Guitars. He doesn't keep big stocks but his website is worth checking out now and then.
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