So my Tele just fell off the wall

[kickz28]

I re-arranged the furniture in my appartment so I had to reinstall my wall hangers today.
I was checking out the TDPRI and about 2 minutes ago I heard a loud noise. For a minute there I thought that my air conditionning had fell out the window (from the 10th floor that would have destroyed it :D).
Anyway, it was my wall hanger that came out of the dry wall and my Tele fell on the floor.
A few big and nice dents on my wall, but the Tele is fine and is still in tune.

Glad it wasn't my Les Paul!

I love Telecasters!
Joe

(Now how the hell am I going to reinstall that wall hanger??)

[StetsonMan]

That sucks....did you have the hanger anchored into a stud?

[kickz28]

Originally Posted by StetsonMan

That sucks....did you have the hanger anchored into a stud?

I used a wall anchor, made purpously for stuff like this. It held up many years in the previous spot, I don't know why it didn't work this time. I didn't use the same type of anchor, maybe I should have.

Anyway to fix this that I will be able to put the hanger back in the same spot? I don't have any other place where I can hang the guitar.

Thanks,
Joey

[Cam]

And you wont have that problem.

[Coyote]

Ouch. That sucks. I have some wall hangers that I used for my old guitars, and some of the old ones I still have now, but I don't put my Telecaster on it because the headstock is too thin. The only thing really holding it is the tuning knob to the low E, so I figured I'd better not take the risk.

Try bolting your hanger into a stud next time, if it still falls then I don't know what to tell you.

[editorjuno]

Originally Posted by Cam

And you wont have that problem.

Bullseye -- I use those vinyl-dipped garden tool hangers screwed directly into the studs, 3/$1.99 at Sears Hardware. The only way my Teles are coming down is if the hangers themselves break at the weld between the woodscrew and the "U." Fuzzy says that can happen, but I've had my 20+ lb. post hole digger hanging from one for years in the garage so I'm not too worried.

[kickz28]

I'll have to get a stud finder then...
I used to have them directly in the dry wall for years without any problems...
Anyway I'll go to the hardware store tomorrow to get some plaster and fix my wall.
How much are stud finders worth anyway?

Thanks,
Joey

[kickz28]

I feel really stupid now. I decided to play my Tele until I can fix the wall tomorrow when the hardware store will be open.
So I'm sitting on my chair with my Tele and I hear another noise. I look and now my Strat fell on the floor.
No damage whatsoever, but I'm stupid for not having taken it off.
So now I took my other guitars off until I screw it into the studs.

Thanks,
Joey

[TJNY]

...work like a charm. Uhmm, it took two to fall before you learned your lesson??

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by kickz28

I'll have to get a stud finder then...
IHow much are stud finders worth anyway?

I suggest that you scout the pawn shops and only buy a pre-'65 stud finder covered in Nitro - just make sure the electronics and soldering are all original. It will ensure that your guitar makes a beautiful sound the next time it hits the floor. We all know that tone is what its all about.

It may cost more, but if you keep it for 40 years, it'll appreciate - your grandkids will be able to buy FOUR studfinders with the profit they make from selling your vintage piece.

[Blueblood]

Originally Posted by kickz28

...Glad it wasn't my Les Paul!

Whoa*whoa*whoa!!!! Let's get our priorities straight here!

[kickz28]

I don't know what's going on! I bought a cheap stud finder but I can't find any vertical studs! I can only find horizental ones and they are made of metal I can't get a nail in it!
Now I thought that vertical studs were supposed to be every 16 inches so I started at the corner of the wall and went 16 inches, only to find no stud.
I have holes all over my wall now and I can't find studs.
Is it possible that this wall is so poorly made that their are no wooden studs vertically!?

Thanks!
Joey

[moondoggie999]

Hmmm thats odd, sounds like a commercial building.

My studio where I hang my guitars at work has very thin metal studs behind the walls so I used sheet metal screws to hold my guitar hangers. At home the studs are wood so I used wood screws.

Don't worry about the holes, you can patch em up. I use a drill with a small drill bit to search for the stud and then yes they will be at certain intervals but the commercial buildings were different than my house as far as materials and intervals

hope this helps!

Brett

[kickz28]

Well this is an appartment building (on the 10th floor) and I'm doing this on the outside wall, so maybe thats why.
But these studs are very strong, I can't even get a nail in them so I don't think I'll be able to get a screw in.
I wonder how they got the screws that hold the dry wall up though...

I think I'll patch the holes up and try again with plastic wall anchors. It has worked fine at my home for years so I can't see why it wouldn't work here (and it worked fine on the other wall too before I moved the furniture around).

Thanks,
Joey

[Norm66]

It's possible that whoever built your building chose a too-thin grade of drywall and that's why your anchors didn't work. I used 3/4" in my house, but I think it goes down to 1/2". Not the place I'd choose to cut costs.

Good luck keeping your guitars off the floor!

[jwells393]

Sounds like we a a double case of operator error here. There is no need to put the hanger into a stud. There is no reason the proper wall anchor correctly installed wouldn't hold a 50 lb guitar in 1/2 in drywall. Get the spring loaded butterfly type that springs open when it is pushed through the drywall.



Sounds to me like you should hire a carpenter to do it for you.

[Blueblood]

Though I own my house, I'm strapped for wall space.
I simply bought a few guitar trees (3) and it freed up a lot of room...
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...69499168nvNgGs

[tweeddeluxe]

Originally Posted by kickz28

Glad it wasn't my Les Paul!

Yeah, then you would've had to patch a hole in the floor.

[editorjuno]

Originally Posted by jwells393

Sounds like we a a double case of operator error here. There is no need to put the hanger into a stud. There is no reason the proper wall anchor correctly installed wouldn't hold a 50 lb guitar in 1/2 in drywall. Get the spring loaded butterfly type that springs open when it is pushed through the drywall.



Sounds to me like you should hire a carpenter to do it for you.

Yup, that's the next best solution to direct-to-stud mounting -- two (or more) of the size with 6-32 screws would be more than strong enough and can be installed through a 3/8" hole.

[kickz28]

Well I got everything fixed and it looks fine and holds strong.
The anchors I first used were no good and when they fell out they made a big hole. I used some better anchors this time and its strong.
The dry wall does seem like it is thin though.

tweeddeluxe: Actually my Tele is heavier than my LP. I would have had to repair a broken headstock however :P

Anyway all is fixed now and it doesn't show anymore... didn't need a carpenter, I can usually do simple stuff like this myself. :D

[a42]

Originally Posted by kickz28

Now I thought that vertical studs were supposed to be every 16 inches so I started at the corner of the wall and went 16 inches, only to find no stud. Is it possible that this wall is so poorly made that their are no wooden studs vertically!?

Try 24" instead of 16". Though it's likely that they'll be metal, too. I've never tried to mount anything to the metal ones so I can't help you there.

Another thing to think about: if you're doing a project like this and find that your studs aren't arranged conveniently, try mounting a 2x4 horizontally and securing it to the studs. You can mount your hangers from that and not worry about trying to match the spacing with the studs. (I did this in my garage for tools and fishing rods.)