Is This A Cunetto Relic?

Mark Byrom · July 21st, 2005, 06:30 AM

Made in 1997, but COA looks like it came from a '52RI. Owned by a monk?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=38 083&rd=1

swingin.little.guitarman · July 21st, 2005, 06:45 AM

I believe you are correct. The COA appears to be from a '52 Reissue, not a Custom Shop Relic. As I understand it, all the Cunetto era relics had COA's signed by John Page. I don't see his signature anywhere on the paperwork. All the COA's Ive seen have specifically indicated the year of build and whether the guitar was in fact a "Relic."

Joe M · July 21st, 2005, 07:35 AM

Something is definitely screwy here...all the pics show a Cunetto era Nocaster but the certificate is from a production line 52 RI. Maybe the original owner was given the wrong COA. Like SLG said, all the Cunetto's were signed by John Page (except the very end of their runs). And the 52 RI certificate looks nothing like the one from the Custom Shop. If you're interested, you should drop the seller a line, that's a good BIN price.

EDIT TO ADD: I wonder if the serial number on the certificate matches the one on the guitar? That would make things even stranger???

Dana · July 21st, 2005, 08:05 AM

Hi,

It is a Cunetto Relic, but the certificate is wrong.

Birdseye neck, CS logo stamped into wood instead of a decal under finish. Relic stamped into body. Those are all Cunetto details.

But that certificate is not for that guitar IMO.

BTW, if it is a Cunetto, and not some scam, that buy it now price is great.

GuitarJonz · July 21st, 2005, 09:20 AM

I love the description:

The guitar was owned by a monk who lives in Cumberland, RI, who played the guitar VERY little.

I'd have to write "The Monk Blues" upon receiving that one! :D

Mark Davis · July 21st, 2005, 09:42 AM

Looks like the seller added to the desc and noted it is the wrong COA. Said it came in a gig bag so my guess is the original buyer got it at GC didnt want to pay extra for the case and inside the gig bag was the wrong 52ri cert.

It really should have the case but its a good deal and it does look like a Cunetto one to me.

skiraly017 · July 21st, 2005, 10:59 AM

I've got an '02 CS relic Nocaster. Been dying to do a side by side for a long time.

Dana · July 21st, 2005, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiraly017

I've got an '02 CS relic Nocaster. Been dying to do a side by side for a long time.

Nice buy skiraly017. If you don't like it let me know!

I might buy it off ya!

Mark Davis · July 21st, 2005, 11:13 AM

I have seen Cunettos go for over 3k so that was a good score.

The 10k bridge pickup is the whole deal my guess is your gonna like it better than the 2002 model but you never know till you plug it in. Even if you dont like it at all you can always get your $$ back by selling it and maybe even make a little profit.

Dana · July 21st, 2005, 11:17 AM

The pickups are cool, but for me it was the 9.5 radius, big frets, and the thin C shape that sold me. I love mine, will never sell it.

skiraly017 · July 21st, 2005, 11:26 AM

However, I can't keep both. Either the Cunetto or my '02 Nocaster will be up for sale. Anybody know how to go about obtaining a replacement CS certificate for the Cunetto? Thanks.

Mark Davis · July 21st, 2005, 11:32 AM

Look on the Fender site for the number for Fender cistomer service. Not 100% sure how you have to handle it but I think you might be able to take the guitar to an authorized Fender dealer they will send a request to Fender for the right cert.

skiraly017 · July 21st, 2005, 11:36 AM

What I'd really like to do is find a way to get John Page to sign it.

Joe M · July 21st, 2005, 12:06 PM

Replacement COA's are next to impossible to get. The only way to get one is if you are the original purchaser of the guitar and can prove it with an original receipt. This topic has been discussed over and over on the FDP. It would be impossible to get one signed by John Page since he no longer has anything to do with the Custom Shop. Still a cool guitar at a great price.

radarman · July 21st, 2005, 03:50 PM

That is a dog-gone really nice tele. Congratulations!
In the auction there wasn't a really good pic of the vintage electronics under the control plate. Would it be possible for you to post a pic of them after you get the guitar?

zane · July 21st, 2005, 04:48 PM

Yeah I use to have 2 post Cunetto...a friend of mine has a Cunetto I thought his was more realistic relic job...but the neck is way to thin for me...I dig the chunky necks on the newer ones

skiraly017 · July 21st, 2005, 04:53 PM

What was it about the wiring you were curious about?

radarman · July 21st, 2005, 06:57 PM

I'd just like to see what it looks like, the craftsmanship, etc.. the components and values, how it is wired up, how the wires were ran, what they look like, ya know?

Joe M · July 29th, 2005, 11:00 AM

Hey skiraly, I see you've got the Cunetto Nocaster up for auction; I know you were looking forward to comparing it to your TM Nocaster, just curious as to why you decided to get rid of the Cunetto.....

Mark Davis · July 29th, 2005, 11:56 AM

Probably wants to make a profit. He got a good deal and can make some $$ off it so why not?

Still would like to see a review.

skiraly017 · July 29th, 2005, 12:17 PM

Things have been crazy lately at the homestead.

The Cunetto arrived just as described in the auction and it was a '96 not a '97. The first thing that impressed me was the finish. Absolutely the best relic job I have ever seen. The Cunetto weighed in at an even 8 pounds, almost a full pound heavier than my '02, but it didn't feel heavy and was very balanced. The neck was not as thick as my '02 but I did like the 9.5 radius better. The 10k bridge pickup was the best part. Tele twang with attitude. I really struggled with making a great partscaster but ultimately I need to recoup my money for my upcoming wedding. Had I found the Cunetto prior to buying my '02 I would have looked no further (and saved myself some money). The finish, sound and playablity of the Cunetto is exceptional. Bottom line, the bigger neck on my '02 just feels right. Plus the finish is starting to wear through and it looks/feels great. If I could afford to keep both I would.

Detailed pics - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/skiral.../ph//my_photos

Joe M · July 29th, 2005, 12:24 PM

Mark, I wasn't denying anyone the right to make a profit, I was just curious as to why he prefered the TM to the Cunetto and he answered my question more than adequately....thanks skiraly...

skiraly017 · July 29th, 2005, 12:31 PM

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Joe M · July 29th, 2005, 12:35 PM

Actually, I am looking for a Nocaster but I've had both the Cunetto's and the TM models and honestly, I feel like you; I like the bigger necks and the smaller radius on the TM models better than the Cunetto's. So, if you decide to get rid of your TM, let me know.... :D

Joe M · July 29th, 2005, 01:00 PM

WHOA, I thought $3000 for the Cunetto was out of my league....

Mark Davis · July 29th, 2005, 01:59 PM

See told ya he just wants to make a profit. LOL :D :D

July 21st, 2005, 06:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mark Byrom TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Georgetown, TX Posts: 75	Is This A Cunetto Relic? Made in 1997, but COA looks like it came from a '52RI. Owned by a monk? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=38 083&rd=1

July 21st, 2005, 08:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dana Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ashland, Ma Posts: 1,693 11 Photos	Hi, It is a Cunetto Relic, but the certificate is wrong. Birdseye neck, CS logo stamped into wood instead of a decal under finish. Relic stamped into body. Those are all Cunetto details. But that certificate is not for that guitar IMO. BTW, if it is a Cunetto, and not some scam, that buy it now price is great. __________________ www.good-ear.com www.miles.be Study music and not the musicians who play it. - Lincoln Goines

July 21st, 2005, 09:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
GuitarJonz Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Mass. Posts: 2,635 7 Photos	Monk? I love the description: The guitar was owned by a monk who lives in Cumberland, RI, who played the guitar VERY little. I'd have to write "The Monk Blues" upon receiving that one! :D

July 21st, 2005, 10:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 672	I'll let you guys know the details when it gets here. I've got an '02 CS relic Nocaster. Been dying to do a side by side for a long time. __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."

July 21st, 2005, 11:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Dana Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ashland, Ma Posts: 1,693 11 Photos	The pickups are cool, but for me it was the 9.5 radius, big frets, and the thin C shape that sold me. I love mine, will never sell it. __________________ www.good-ear.com www.miles.be Study music and not the musicians who play it. - Lincoln Goines

July 21st, 2005, 06:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
swingin.little.guitarman Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 147	I believe you are correct. The COA appears to be from a '52 Reissue, not a Custom Shop Relic. As I understand it, all the Cunetto era relics had COA's signed by John Page. I don't see his signature anywhere on the paperwork. All the COA's Ive seen have specifically indicated the year of build and whether the guitar was in fact a "Relic."

July 21st, 2005, 07:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Joe M Moderator Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,019	Something is definitely screwy here...all the pics show a Cunetto era Nocaster but the certificate is from a production line 52 RI. Maybe the original owner was given the wrong COA. Like SLG said, all the Cunetto's were signed by John Page (except the very end of their runs). And the 52 RI certificate looks nothing like the one from the Custom Shop. If you're interested, you should drop the seller a line, that's a good BIN price. EDIT TO ADD: I wonder if the serial number on the certificate matches the one on the guitar? That would make things even stranger???

July 21st, 2005, 09:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 11,812	Looks like the seller added to the desc and noted it is the wrong COA. Said it came in a gig bag so my guess is the original buyer got it at GC didnt want to pay extra for the case and inside the gig bag was the wrong 52ri cert. It really should have the case but its a good deal and it does look like a Cunetto one to me.

July 21st, 2005, 11:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 11,812	I have seen Cunettos go for over 3k so that was a good score. The 10k bridge pickup is the whole deal my guess is your gonna like it better than the 2002 model but you never know till you plug it in. Even if you dont like it at all you can always get your $$ back by selling it and maybe even make a little profit.

July 21st, 2005, 11:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 672	Looking forward to it. However, I can't keep both. Either the Cunetto or my '02 Nocaster will be up for sale. Anybody know how to go about obtaining a replacement CS certificate for the Cunetto? Thanks. __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."

July 21st, 2005, 11:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 11,812	Look on the Fender site for the number for Fender cistomer service. Not 100% sure how you have to handle it but I think you might be able to take the guitar to an authorized Fender dealer they will send a request to Fender for the right cert.

July 21st, 2005, 11:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 672	Much thanks. What I'd really like to do is find a way to get John Page to sign it. __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."

July 21st, 2005, 12:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Joe M Moderator Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,019	Replacement COA's are next to impossible to get. The only way to get one is if you are the original purchaser of the guitar and can prove it with an original receipt. This topic has been discussed over and over on the FDP. It would be impossible to get one signed by John Page since he no longer has anything to do with the Custom Shop. Still a cool guitar at a great price.

July 21st, 2005, 03:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
radarman Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 319	Skiraly017 That is a dog-gone really nice tele. Congratulations! In the auction there wasn't a really good pic of the vintage electronics under the control plate. Would it be possible for you to post a pic of them after you get the guitar? __________________ One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain't nothin' can beat teamwork. Edward Abbey

July 21st, 2005, 04:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
zane Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Panther City,Tx Posts: 1,008	Yeah I use to have 2 post Cunetto...a friend of mine has a Cunetto I thought his was more realistic relic job...but the neck is way to thin for me...I dig the chunky necks on the newer ones

July 21st, 2005, 04:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 672	I'll post good pics when it gets here. What was it about the wiring you were curious about? __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."

July 21st, 2005, 06:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
radarman Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 319	Wiring I'd just like to see what it looks like, the craftsmanship, etc.. the components and values, how it is wired up, how the wires were ran, what they look like, ya know? __________________ One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain't nothin' can beat teamwork. Edward Abbey

July 29th, 2005, 11:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
Joe M Moderator Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,019	Hey skiraly, I see you've got the Cunetto Nocaster up for auction; I know you were looking forward to comparing it to your TM Nocaster, just curious as to why you decided to get rid of the Cunetto.....

July 29th, 2005, 11:56 AM	#20 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 11,812	Probably wants to make a profit. He got a good deal and can make some $$ off it so why not? Still would like to see a review.

July 29th, 2005, 12:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 672	I was getting around to the review. Things have been crazy lately at the homestead. The Cunetto arrived just as described in the auction and it was a '96 not a '97. The first thing that impressed me was the finish. Absolutely the best relic job I have ever seen. The Cunetto weighed in at an even 8 pounds, almost a full pound heavier than my '02, but it didn't feel heavy and was very balanced. The neck was not as thick as my '02 but I did like the 9.5 radius better. The 10k bridge pickup was the best part. Tele twang with attitude. I really struggled with making a great partscaster but ultimately I need to recoup my money for my upcoming wedding. Had I found the Cunetto prior to buying my '02 I would have looked no further (and saved myself some money). The finish, sound and playablity of the Cunetto is exceptional. Bottom line, the bigger neck on my '02 just feels right. Plus the finish is starting to wear through and it looks/feels great. If I could afford to keep both I would. Detailed pics - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/skiral.../ph//my_photos __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."

July 29th, 2005, 12:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
Joe M Moderator Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,019	Mark, I wasn't denying anyone the right to make a profit, I was just curious as to why he prefered the TM to the Cunetto and he answered my question more than adequately....thanks skiraly...

July 29th, 2005, 12:31 PM	#23 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 672	No problem Joe! Deleted. __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."

July 29th, 2005, 12:35 PM	#24 (permalink)
Joe M Moderator Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,019	Actually, I am looking for a Nocaster but I've had both the Cunetto's and the TM models and honestly, I feel like you; I like the bigger necks and the smaller radius on the TM models better than the Cunetto's. So, if you decide to get rid of your TM, let me know.... :D

July 29th, 2005, 01:00 PM	#25 (permalink)
Joe M Moderator Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,019	WHOA, I thought $3000 for the Cunetto was out of my league....

July 29th, 2005, 01:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 11,812	See told ya he just wants to make a profit. LOL :D :D