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Old September 14th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Micro-Tilt Wrench Size for '72 Tele Thinline?

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Old September 14th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do what any real man does...

Get your pouch/case/loose assortment of hex keys and start sticking them in there until you find the one that fits. It will, of course, be the one that is missing from your pouch/case/loose assortment.

If you don't have a pouch/case/loose assortment of hex keys, just go buy a standard set. It makes more sense than buying them individually, even after they start mysteriously disappearing, because you won't be able to keep up with the phenomenon. (Unless you are wanting a specific T handle for the application, though this is probably a "set it one time" thing.)

Or, Google it.

Or, check out the Setup Guide at Fender's site.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Or, Google it.

Or, check out the Setup Guide at Fender's site.
Been there. Done that. It's not like I haven't done the research myself.

It would be great if Fender (or SOMEBODY) had all this stuff listed somewhere where folks could find it!
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Old September 14th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Been there. Done that. It's not like I haven't done the research myself.

It would be great if Fender (or SOMEBODY) had all this stuff listed somewhere where folks could find it!


I Googled it and not only did I have the answer in less than one second, a link to the Fender info was amongst the returns on the first page.

http://www.fender.com/support/articl...er-setup-guide

(Btw, the answer was provided in your first thread.)
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Old September 14th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I Googled it and not only did I have the answer in less than one second
Prove it. Give me the key words you used and tell me what site had the answer. I dare you.


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a link to the Fender info was amongst the returns on the first page.

http://www.fender.com/support/articl...er-setup-guide
I don't recall asking about how to do a setup. I've been doing those for years.


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(Btw, the answer was provided in your first thread.)
No, it wasn't. You can look for yourself.

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Old September 14th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Truss Rod:
MIM 3/16"
Am Std 1/8"
Most Asian imports are 5mm.

American Saddles .050
MIM Saddles 1.5mm

Micro Tilt 1/8"

This stuff is easy to find. If you check the Fender setup guide, under the section titled 'SHIMMING/MICRO-TILT™ ADJUSTMENT', you'll find:

Tightening the hex adjustment screw with an 1/8" hex wrench approximately 1/4 turn will allow you to raise the action approximately 1/32". Retighten the neck screws when the adjustment is complete.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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From the specs for a '72 Thinline on Fender's site:


Truss Rod Wrench:

1/8" SAE Hex (Allen) Wrench.

The microtilt uses the same size Hex (Allen) wrench as the truss rod adjustment.

Just slip it in there and try it before you loosen the neck screws, it should slip right in and feel snug, if there's any slack at all don't try to turn it. If it fits good, loosen the screws and adjust away, I wouldn't turn it more than a quarter turn (at a time, then check angle), but feel free to do as you wish.



Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench:

.050" Hex (Allen) Wrench
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Sorry Dsutton24, I must have been typing as you were.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow. Take a breath, man.

Since the answer to your question was just a click away, I kinda thought your post was humorous, so I made a light-hearted reply. To me it was like posting on a forum to ask the temperature. I pointed you toward the answer and more. I didn't mean to piss you off.

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Prove it. Give me the key words you used and tell me what site had the answer. I dare you.
Sure, no problem. No need to dare me.

Google "micro-tilt wrench size" or "Fender micro-tilt wrench size." (I got the answer in 0.16 seconds.)

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I don't recall asking about how to do a setup. I've been doing those for years.
Since it's a setup related piece of information, the answer to your question was on that page:

"For guitars with the Micro-Tilt adjustment, loosen the two neck screws on both sides of the adjustment access hole on the neckplate by at least four full turns. Tightening the hex adjustment screw with an 1/8" hex wrench approximately 1/4 turn will allow you to raise the action approximately 1/32". Retighten the neck screws when the adjustment is complete. The pitch of the neck on your guitar has been preset at the factory and in most cases will not need to be adjusted."


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No, it wasn't. You can look for yourself.

Geez!
Yes, it was. 1/8". I would not know that if I hadn't looked for myself.

Geeze.

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Wow. Take a breath, man.

Since the answer to your question was just a click away, I kinda thought your post was humorous, so I made a light-hearted reply. To me it was like posting on a forum to ask the temperature. I pointed you toward the answer and more. I didn't mean to piss you off.
Well, now, this is embarrassing. slack, you are CORRECT - I am WRONG!

Please accept my most humble apologies (I'm genuflecting right now, in case you didn't know).

I just can't see the forest for the trees, I guess. Geez.

It's been a long (and hard) week.
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Truss Rod:
MIM 3/16"
Am Std 1/8"
Most Asian imports are 5mm.

American Saddles .050
MIM Saddles 1.5mm

Micro Tilt 1/8"

This stuff is easy to find. If you check the Fender setup guide, under the section titled 'SHIMMING/MICRO-TILT™ ADJUSTMENT', you'll find:

Tightening the hex adjustment screw with an 1/8" hex wrench approximately 1/4 turn will allow you to raise the action approximately 1/32". Retighten the neck screws when the adjustment is complete.
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From the specs for a '72 Thinline on Fender's site:


Truss Rod Wrench:

1/8" SAE Hex (Allen) Wrench.

The microtilt uses the same size Hex (Allen) wrench as the truss rod adjustment.

Just slip it in there and try it before you loosen the neck screws, it should slip right in and feel snug, if there's any slack at all don't try to turn it. If it fits good, loosen the screws and adjust away, I wouldn't turn it more than a quarter turn (at a time, then check angle), but feel free to do as you wish.



Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench:

.050" Hex (Allen) Wrench
Thanks, guys. I appreciate your help. Really.
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Old September 14th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Awesome abstruse verbiage.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I finally received this response from Fender:

"The truss rod wrench for your instrument is 1/8”, the saddle height adjustment is .050”, and the micro tilt is 3/32”. "

Please make note.
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After receiving that email response did you bring to their attention the apparent error in their Setup Guide on the Fender website? The Setup Guide indicates 1/8". You should reply to that email informing them of that and providing the link above.

Since the Setup Guide states 1/8" and others chimed in with that same answer, and lots of other sources online also indicate 1/8", I wonder if it varies on the models or where they were made. Perhaps the vintage style Thinline is 3/32" but other models are 1/8".

Anyway, this is why my first reply to you was so sensible. Following my own advice just now (I could not do this on Fri when you asked) I can confirm that a 3/32 hex wrench fits into the Micro-Tilt adjustment on a 1974 Tele Custom.
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After receiving that email response did you bring to their attention the apparent error in their Setup Guide on the Fender website? The Setup Guide indicates 1/8". You should reply to that email informing them of that and providing the link above.
Actually, I tried to reply, but my reply got blocked by our work network. I'll try again tonight, from home.


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I wonder if it varies on the models or where they were made. Perhaps the vintage style Thinline is 3/32" but other models are 1/8".

I can confirm that a 3/32 hex wrench fits into the Micro-Tilt adjustment on a 1974 Tele Custom.
...and it also fits a 2008 '72 Telecaster Thinline.
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what's the deal… it's an Allen Wrench… getcha a few bux and go to ACE, Home Depot, or Lowes and buy a set of Metric and SAE, when ya get home, stick wrenches in the hole until ya find the one that fits…. you're covered…. this Rocket Science moment brought to ya buy. . .

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what's the deal… it's an Allen Wrench… getcha a few bux and go to ACE, Home Depot, or Lowes and buy a set of Metric and SAE, when ya get home, stick wrenches in the hole until ya find the one that fits…. you're covered…. this Rocket Science moment brought to ya buy. . .

here. . .
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Did you see the first response?

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Do what any real man does...

Get your pouch/case/loose assortment of hex keys and start sticking them in there until you find the one that fits. It will, of course, be the one that is missing from your pouch/case/loose assortment.

If you don't have a pouch/case/loose assortment of hex keys, just go buy a standard set. It makes more sense than buying them individually, even after they start mysteriously disappearing, because you won't be able to keep up with the phenomenon.
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Never expected to get a laugh from this thread when I clicked on it! LOL!
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what's the deal… it's an Allen Wrench… getcha a few bux and go to ACE, Home Depot, or Lowes and buy a set of Metric and SAE, when ya get home, stick wrenches in the hole until ya find the one that fits…. you're covered…. this Rocket Science moment brought to ya buy. . .

here. . .
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This--and give everyone you know hex wrench sets for xmas (my wife does). Both metric and English. (I used to have a Ford Pinto--73, the ones that exploded--that took english and metric tools to do a tune up. Then I got a toyota SB 4x4 pickup that required one 17mm socket to do everything under the hood I was capable of doing. No wonder detroit nearly went out of business.)
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