This Is Just Plain OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!

[Lane in MS]

... the music that influenced your playing (whoever you are), wasn't played on these saddles.

Dead horse, annoyed pig, all that...

[Poppatwang]

if they coulda, they woulda.
Abuse that deceased pony.

[Dale Gribble]

Wondering what is the diff in a magnetic and non magnetic bridge?

[Bill Hullett]

Yeah and your great Granma made her own butter ...Your great Grandad plowed feilds 12 hours a day just to eat and thought that a car was a frivilious luxury too....And don't even ask about a computor....so are you up for that too????

Bill Hullett

If fact.....why even play a new fangled electric guitar....your ancestors didn't

[Raymond]

Yeah! get the green light blinking!!!!!!! ….

What? This isn’t the thread???? Oops, sorry…

I've been away for too long....

[yegbert]

And I just don't get folks not liking the better things we have nowadays. :)

[jpkusa]

Don't mean to resurrect this thread after such a long time, but I'd been meaning to post a pic of what the Glendale steel set looks like installed, but kept forgetting to. Then I remembered it while taking pics of something else tonight. These are on my MIJ 62 RI. Just for the curious.

[GuitarJonz]

They look good, and maybe offer slightly better intonation, but look how your E string slid right up, and is sitting in the height adjustment hole. Thats the thing I hate about compensated saddles of all types, the strings wander more and sometimes end up in the "plinky zone", where sitars are not far away. That almost never happens with straight saddles, especially slotted varieties. I've tried a few set of comp saddles, and find I just like the straight ones better, I can get em mighty close to perfect.

[jpkusa]

Originally Posted by GuitarJonz

They look good, and maybe offer slightly better intonation, but look how your E string slid right up, and is sitting in the height adjustment hole. Thats the thing I hate about compensated saddles of all types, the strings wander more and sometimes end up in the "plinky zone", where sitars are not far away. That almost never happens with straight saddles, especially slotted varieties. I've tried a few set of comp saddles, and find I just like the straight ones better, I can get em mighty close to perfect.

I know what you're saying, but I have had zero problems so far. I have my action jacked-up pretty high, and the Glendales have short height screws, so the screw under the high E is actually down in the hole - meaning, the string never makes contact with the screw. Thus, no sitar - so far.

I'd be willing to bet that before too long we'll see a set of comp'd threaded saddles from somebody.

[yegbert]

Originally Posted by GuitarJonz

They look good, and maybe offer slightly better intonation, but look how your E string slid right up, and is sitting in the height adjustment hole. Thats the thing I hate about compensated saddles of all types, the strings wander more and sometimes end up in the "plinky zone", where sitars are not far away. That almost never happens with straight saddles, especially slotted varieties. I've tried a few set of comp saddles, and find I just like the straight ones better, I can get em mighty close to perfect.

jpkusa,

Are your saddles the ones like Glendale is producing now that are slightly wider so the height screws are farther apart, or are they the earlier versions? Is your skinny E there because it slid there, or is that where you put it intentionally for alignment of the string with the pickup polepiece?

Is the height on your outside saddles adjusted for each string with the effect that they are tilted and somewhat follow the neck radius, or are they level with the body and bridge plate surface?

My impression, as I had stated earlier in this thread: that tilted height adjustment and not the slanted design is what could cause a tendency for the strings on the outside saddles to slide outward. That tilt is a matter of setup preference that is independent of the slanted design for compensation.

[jpkusa]

Originally Posted by yegbert

tilted height adjustment and not the slanted design is what could cause a tendency for the strings on the outside saddles to slide outward. That tilt is a matter of setup preference that is independent of the slanted design for compensation.

Exactly - that neck is a vintage-type 7-1/4" radius, and I like the strings to follow that curve. Notice my D is very high, as well as the G. Part of that is because of the way I bend strings. The high E is towards the outer end of that saddle because of my preferred action. With a flatter, more modern neck, that wouldn't happen so much I'm sure. But like I said before - it makes no difference in the sound. I'm not getting any buzzes or anything. Also, I use 11's, so they stay put on those saddles pretty good.

And yeah, those are the earlier Glendales, not the newer, wider ones.

[GuitarJonz]

I know what you're saying, but I have had zero problems so far. I have my action jacked-up pretty high, and the Glendales have short height screws, so the screw under the high E is actually down in the hole - meaning, the string never makes contact with the screw. Thus, no sitar - so far.

Yes, I can see that the screw is recessed, but I get less than optimal "plinky" tones whether the string sits over the hole, or actually touches the height screw. Re the string sliding around due to height adjustment, you're often gonna get more of that with comp saddles IMO, unless, like Bill Hullett, your saddles are mostly straight across heightwise. I would say that the majority of tele players tilt their end saddles to follow the fretboard curve. String drift and plink tones are just not issues with a straight slotted saddle, and even with straight brass, I get much less string drift than with comp saddles. And yes, I have tried a set of Glendale Twang saddles too, they are still in the drawer. YMMV.

[Jean-Baptiste]

Ahhh. Not this again! This is the thread that persuaded me to try compensated saddles. The timing was great, tho'- another thread had just inspired me to try a Strobostomp and I was horrified to see (and hear) how out of tune I'd been all these years.

As to the 'issue' of strings sliding around on the saddles, I have to agree that it's a function of the vertical tilting that cause them to drift towards the screw holes. If I adjust them to follow the neck radius, this has happened with every 3 saddle bridge I've ever owned. Has nothing to do with compensation.

What I'm curious about is why this is such a volatile issue. Unless I've missed it, the players who are opposed to this type of bridge haven't identified any real problems created by this mod. It took less than 5 minutes, was cheap, is totally reversible AND dramatically improves the guitar's performance. Nothing magic about it, and nothing harmful about it either. The emotional backlash and resistance these little guys have generated has really puzzled me. I guess I could better understand it if it was a design concept that I don't agree with- like the 3 bolt neck, for example.

[jpkusa]

Originally Posted by Jean-Baptiste

As to the 'issue' of strings sliding around on the saddles, I have to agree that it's a function of the vertical tilting that cause them to drift towards the screw holes. If I adjust them to follow the neck radius, this has happened with every 3 saddle bridge I've ever owned. Has nothing to do with compensation.

I think the anti-comp'd folks' position on string "drift" is due to the fact that straight saddles either have threads or grooves that prevent the strings from drifting, regardless of height or angle. Comp'd saddles don't have any grooves to hold the strings in place, a feature some folks don't care for. But my strings don't really drift, and I'm not getting any buzz. If I were using 9's or 10's, I might have more of a problem. But 11's stay put very well.

[GuitarJonz]

Originally Posted by Jean-Baptiste

What I'm curious about is why this is such a volatile issue.

Not volatile, just my observations that they don't work well for ME for the reasons I've listed, in addition to which, I could never get the Glendale B/E saddle to intonate any better than a straight saddle, thats on 2 different guitars. So, as I mentioned, this is all IMO and YMMV. If you love them , I'm happy for you.

Unless I've missed it, the players who are opposed to this type of bridge haven't identified any real problems created by this mod.

I've identified issues, they may not be problems for you, to ME, comp saddles don't make that much of a difference. Again, if you're happy, then I'm happy for you. JIMHO, they are not the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The emotional backlash and resistance these little guys have generated has really puzzled me.

Nothing emotional about it, just the facts 'Mam, as I see em. YMMV. BTW, I'm far from little :D

[sudancat]

I've been using compensated saddles for 2 years now.The only time I had problems with the strings moving on the saddles was when I was restringing and some serious bending. I took a small triangle file,ran it across the saddle 1 time where I wanted the string to set,never ever had another string to slide. Just enough groove that the string stays put but not to much where you can see it. With brass,in time the string would make its own groove,but I sped up the process. IMHO, the vintage style bridge with 3 brass saddles is all I want on Tele, I may try the aluminum saddle, thats as far as I going....

[BlackieStratMan]

bttt

[micpoc]

Originally Posted by BlackieStratMan

bttt

OK, it's "bttt"ed; now what?

Actually, I'm considering picking up a set of their new cold-rolled steel, nickle plated saddles.

Has anyone used their tone caps?

[Ron Garson]

I tried one of his tone caps, but everytime I bent over it fell off me head!