what's up with people? (Tele related)

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by Mike Eskimo

Pretty much.

Believe me - as a long-time seller I have a laundry list of gripes that all have basis in an experience w/ a seller of potential seller.

But - I want your money.

And, I'm going to do what I have to to get it.

Be nice , describe stuff accurately, and ship quick.

The customer is rarely right but you have to make them think that you think they always are...

that's pretty much how I do it when I'm the seller, which is quite often!

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by BackNtheSaddle

Sorry to disagree... but, that's how the sales game is played. If you're a seller, everyone is potential customer and deserves to be treated as such. If you are a seller, the customer is always right... even when they are wrong.

Sales-101.

If that's frustrating to people, then maybe they have issues dealing with the public. Politely answer the question and move on.

yupp!

[stephent2]

In the sales biz, you're a tire kicker.

That's OK of course, as a salesman will tell ya, you weed through tire kickers and be backs ("ah, I'll be back") on the way to a buyer. It's a matter of numbers.

The trick is to be kind to all 'cos tire kickers and be backs can be made into buyers although the odds are against it.

[Mike Eskimo]

Also - there are more tire-kickers and "wouldja take ?" artists out there than ever and sure - we all know the economy blows but it's still frustrating if you were around for the glory days of Ebay.

[Nub]

I think the seller had a point. Either the weight put you off or it didn't... if it truly did, then you wouldn't have been interested in the body for a lower price.

[chezdeluxe]

Originally Posted by IPLAYLOUD

Look at his side.
You asked the weight and he told you.

You then told him to let you know if he failed to sell to contact you.
He doesn't want to "fail" on selling it, he wants to get his price or very close to it. When he got your inquiry, he replied thinking that you were interested in bidding. In a round-about way, you said to him "I'm not paying that much, I hope you don't sell it so I can get it for less."
I am sure he was a bit frustrated.

+1

Your negotiation skills are what is at fault. It may have been apparent to you what you were suggesting but not to the seller.

Once he let you know the weight your reply should have been a clear message that you were really seeking a body of a certain weight and while the weight of the body listed wouldn't kill the deal for you you would only be prepared to pay $X for a body that weight. Then wished him well with his auction saying that someone was sure to like the body but if the auction didn't succeed you would be interested in the body at the price you had mentioned.

You wanted a chance to get the body at a cheaper price and now that chance is gone. Your negotiation skills failed you.

[The Salt]

Classic. Good job.

[Telesavalis]

I'm in agreement with IPLAYLOUD and Sorry but I have to side with the seller on this. You asked a question and he answered you. And then you made it clear that you weren't interested in the item at his listing price. So you're just wasting his time. People list things on Ebay to sell them...not dick around with low ballers.

[StratBluesRock]

Originally Posted by Telesavalis

I'm in agreement with IPLAYLOUD and Sorry but I have to side with the seller on this. You asked a question and he answered you. And then you made it clear that you weren't interested in the item at his listing price. So you're just wasting his time. People list things on Ebay to sell them...not dick around with low ballers.

Yeah, well he said he would be interested at a lower price.

You'd best get your flame retardant suit on, brother.

[ScottJPatrick]

jkh

[Telesavalis]

Originally Posted by StratBluesRock

Yeah, well he said he would be interested at a lower price.

You'd best get your flame retardant suit on, brother.

Yeah, and who wouldn't? That's not the issue. The issue is that he tried a lowball tactic on the seller by more or less stating that the listing was too high for his liking. Sounds like the OP was the younger part of the dialogue...like 15.

[TeleToTheRain]

I guess I should have asked the weight and then replied with the following as to not upset anyones delicate sensibilities:

"Thank you for your kind response, however, I am a downright deplorable cork sniffer, and looking for something a little lighter if I'm going to spend that much, albeit stupidly. That is not in any way implying that I think you are charging too much. This is not a tactic, and I want to make sure I obey ebay protocol. I would never insult you by offering less than your very reasonable asking price. I actually applaud you for charging more than Warmoth as I am sure the body has appreciated in value having been in your expert care. I sincerely apologize if I have wasted your time, and I feel like a horrible human being if I have done so. Rest assured I will repent for my transgressions. If you don't find a buyer, please let me know and not only will I give you your asking price, but I will increase it by 10% since I feel so terrible for having asked this question. I hope you find this acceptable and non threatening. Have a wonderful carefree pleasant day! I will be sending a card and a dozen pansies as well in hopes that you can forgive my ineptitude as an eBay buyer!"

The WWII generation we just celebrated are rolling in their graves fellas!

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by Nub

I think the seller had a point. Either the weight put you off or it didn't... if it truly did, then you wouldn't have been interested in the body for a lower price.

I don't really like BMWs but if I could get one for less than the cost of a Hyundai I would. How's that for a point?

[Jeff H]

I fail to see the gripe.

I see the sellers point.

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by chezdeluxe

+1

Your negotiation skills are what is at fault. It may have been apparent to you what you were suggesting but not to the seller.

Once he let you know the weight your reply should have been a clear message that you were really seeking a body of a certain weight and while the weight of the body listed wouldn't kill the deal for you you would only be prepared to pay $X for a body that weight. Then wished him well with his auction saying that someone was sure to like the body but if the auction didn't succeed you would be interested in the body at the price you had mentioned.

You wanted a chance to get the body at a cheaper price and now that chance is gone. Your negotiation skills failed you.

they did?

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by The Salt

Classic. Good job.

seems like you're among the minority, thanks though

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by Telesavalis

Yeah, and who wouldn't? That's not the issue. The issue is that he tried a lowball tactic on the seller by more or less stating that the listing was too high for his liking. Sounds like the OP was the younger part of the dialogue...like 15.

Yupp, "too high for my liking" exactly.... how is that an offense? If everyone liked everything nothing would go unsold. Guess I am just foolish and young at heart. Really didn't expect all this... you guys friends with this dude or something? These threads really take on a life of their own. I even had to go back and look at the original post... yupp.... I'm still right.

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by Jeff H

I fail to see the gripe.

I see the sellers point.

maybe you can explain it to me then... why was there a gripe? I guess next time I'll just pass on an auction instead of asking a question. You guys don't even know the details of the listing. If it doesn't sell and he lists it for a few bucks less I may buy it if he wasn't a jerk.

[TeleToTheRain]

Guess I shouldn't really be surprise at most of these responses..... so what's better nitro or poly? What do you guys think about relics? I think the sky is blue.... your thoughts?

[TeleToTheRain]

Originally Posted by Jeff H

I fail to see the gripe.

I see the sellers point.

you know what.... me too, thanks for the wisdom, let's close the thread now that my faith in humanity is restored.