Vintage tele (51 or 52?) on ebay?

Retro Greg · April 21st, 2005, 06:54 PM

I suppose, most of you have seen this one by now, but what do you make of it?
Description says it's a '54 but looks like a 51 or 52 to me with that poodle case. If it is legit, it's a bargain!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...317107756&rd=1

Cheers,
63SBSTRAT

Mark Davis · April 21st, 2005, 07:19 PM

haha the guy doesnt even know the serial is under the ashtray.

If it was real do you think the pics would be that blurry?? hahah

d. meyers · April 21st, 2005, 09:01 PM

Yeah, I had to replace my fret plates once, man did it hurt...

nacho · April 22nd, 2005, 02:43 PM

good to me, but more like a 52 not a 54. The dark butterscotch finish, decal cloud shape and lettering and the slot string tree and case say 52. I think the seller may just be missinformed about guitars (fret plates??). The current high bidder deals with guitars and I am pretty sure he made his homework with the seller before placing a 12k bid. Shame we cant see better shots. We will probably see it back up for sale with better pics and descprition for 20k soon :(
nb

tele71 · April 22nd, 2005, 04:02 PM

did fender start using phillips head screws? All the old teles I have seen, early 50s, have had slotted screws at the neck and for the rest of the hardware. I had a 61 that used phillips head. Good looking guitar dont know if it's ligit though.
P

flyingb54 · April 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM

The price sickens me..but it's a beauty. Why is the photo so blurry?????
jb
www.johnbeland.com

slack · April 22nd, 2005, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tele71

did fender start using phillips head screws?

No later than 51. But Teles weren't all Phillips until late 53 I believe.

curtis · April 23rd, 2005, 05:51 PM

Do you think the three marks behind the bridge mean that it once had a Bigsby?

Nacho - did the logo change between 52 and 54?

Could it be a 51 with that serial number?

0le FUZZY · April 23rd, 2005, 06:25 PM

Three marks behind the bridge means he used a big ole screwdriver tew set the saddles fer tonation. Been neer dun nat --- HEE! HEE!

OH! An the onlee thang that bothers me in them blurred pixs are the 12th fret marker dots. Tew wide fer fiddy tew and tew narrow fer fiddy four (jes looks that a way tew me).

1383 !!!!! Look-kout now ! 5 hours tew go.

0le FUZZY

curtis · April 23rd, 2005, 07:50 PM

I need to eat more - I can't see enough detail in those blurred pics to see the 12th fret markers spacing.

Ole Fuzzy - are you using anti-fuzz viewing software?!

Why would anyone think this is a good way to sell a valuable guitar.

0le FUZZY · April 23rd, 2005, 08:46 PM

Quote:

I can't see enough detail in those blurred pics to see the 12th fret markers spacing.

Rite hand row, third pix down. Make it big and yew will cee. IT duz haff the proper stagger fer a fiddy won er tew. By that I mean the marker dot onna big E side iss closer tew the edge than the udder won.

I are watchin iss won HEE! HEE!

0le FUZZY

0le FUZZY · April 24th, 2005, 01:14 AM

Very inner-restin !!

US $17,874.00

Kool !!

0.F.

nacho · April 24th, 2005, 06:41 AM

logos between 50 and 54 change all the time but there are some paterns to be followed, especially in the clear "halo shape". In the book that Ive written theres a time line pic comparison of all the possible halos shapes pictured under blacklight that shows this particular detail.
i hope youre enjoying your fiddytwo.
take care
nb

MarkM · April 24th, 2005, 12:48 PM

When's your book due out??

nacho · April 24th, 2005, 03:55 PM

cant give an exact date. we are working to have a first complete designed written proof in a few weeks. Id say it could be out in the market in about 3-6 months time.
i will keep you guys posted though.
thanks
nb

curtis · April 24th, 2005, 06:47 PM

Hi Nacho

Thanks for the logo info - I look forward to reading all about it later this year!

That 52 is now my no.1 guitar! I often play it unplugged as well and love the way it resonates. The neck is just great too - so, so comfortable. Thanks again for sending it my way.

The one thing I have been wondering about - if that is a guitar that you could bear to part with, you must have some amazing playing guitars in your collection!

Best wishes, David

PS I have just remembered that you were going to send me a copy of the CD that you were recording back then. If you have a spare copy handy I would still like to hear it. Thanks.

skiraly017 · April 26th, 2005, 04:56 PM

What a scumbag. Lifted the text, pictures and all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...318410663&rd=1

April 21st, 2005, 06:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Retro Greg NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 5	Vintage tele (51 or 52?) on ebay? I suppose, most of you have seen this one by now, but what do you make of it? Description says it's a '54 but looks like a 51 or 52 to me with that poodle case. If it is legit, it's a bargain!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...317107756&rd=1 Cheers, 63SBSTRAT

April 22nd, 2005, 02:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
nacho Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 379	looks good to me, but more like a 52 not a 54. The dark butterscotch finish, decal cloud shape and lettering and the slot string tree and case say 52. I think the seller may just be missinformed about guitars (fret plates??). The current high bidder deals with guitars and I am pretty sure he made his homework with the seller before placing a 12k bid. Shame we cant see better shots. We will probably see it back up for sale with better pics and descprition for 20k soon :( nb

April 22nd, 2005, 04:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
tele71 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Washington DC Posts: 169	When did fender start using phillips head screws? All the old teles I have seen, early 50s, have had slotted screws at the neck and for the rest of the hardware. I had a 61 that used phillips head. Good looking guitar dont know if it's ligit though. P

April 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
flyingb54 Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BRENHAM TEXAS Age: 59 Posts: 811	Beauty The price sickens me..but it's a beauty. Why is the photo so blurry????? jb www.johnbeland.com __________________ "Son, that has nothing to do with nothin'"....Bill Monroe

April 23rd, 2005, 05:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
curtis Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greenwich UK Posts: 109	Bigsby? Do you think the three marks behind the bridge mean that it once had a Bigsby? Nacho - did the logo change between 52 and 54? Could it be a 51 with that serial number?

April 21st, 2005, 07:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,874	haha the guy doesnt even know the serial is under the ashtray. If it was real do you think the pics would be that blurry?? hahah

April 21st, 2005, 09:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
d. meyers Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PDX OR Posts: 463 8 Photos	Yeah, I had to replace my fret plates once, man did it hurt...

April 23rd, 2005, 06:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	Three marks behind the bridge means he used a big ole screwdriver tew set the saddles fer tonation. Been neer dun nat --- HEE! HEE! OH! An the onlee thang that bothers me in them blurred pixs are the 12th fret marker dots. Tew wide fer fiddy tew and tew narrow fer fiddy four (jes looks that a way tew me). 1383 !!!!! Look-kout now ! 5 hours tew go. 0le FUZZY

April 23rd, 2005, 07:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
curtis Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greenwich UK Posts: 109	Carrots... I need to eat more - I can't see enough detail in those blurred pics to see the 12th fret markers spacing. Ole Fuzzy - are you using anti-fuzz viewing software?! Why would anyone think this is a good way to sell a valuable guitar.

April 24th, 2005, 01:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	Very inner-restin !! US $17,874.00 Kool !! 0.F.

April 24th, 2005, 06:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
nacho Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 379	hey David logos between 50 and 54 change all the time but there are some paterns to be followed, especially in the clear "halo shape". In the book that Ive written theres a time line pic comparison of all the possible halos shapes pictured under blacklight that shows this particular detail. i hope youre enjoying your fiddytwo. take care nb

April 24th, 2005, 12:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
MarkM TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Connecticut Age: 44 Posts: 95	Nacho... When's your book due out?? __________________ Guitars, Cadillacs, Hillbilly Music.....the only things that keep me hangin' on!

April 24th, 2005, 03:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
nacho Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 379	book cant give an exact date. we are working to have a first complete designed written proof in a few weeks. Id say it could be out in the market in about 3-6 months time. i will keep you guys posted though. thanks nb

April 24th, 2005, 06:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
curtis Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Greenwich UK Posts: 109	Hi Nacho Thanks for the logo info - I look forward to reading all about it later this year! That 52 is now my no.1 guitar! I often play it unplugged as well and love the way it resonates. The neck is just great too - so, so comfortable. Thanks again for sending it my way. The one thing I have been wondering about - if that is a guitar that you could bear to part with, you must have some amazing playing guitars in your collection! Best wishes, David PS I have just remembered that you were going to send me a copy of the CD that you were recording back then. If you have a spare copy handy I would still like to hear it. Thanks.

April 26th, 2005, 04:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
skiraly017 Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 674	Look what's back! What a scumbag. Lifted the text, pictures and all. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...318410663&rd=1 __________________ "But right now I need a Telecaster through a Vibrolux turned up to ten."