eBay - a 52RI in Black?

Jerry J · April 21st, 2005, 11:36 AM

Is this a real factory 52RI? Its in black and the seller claims its original though the case isn't. I know Fender produced a limited amount of Copper 52RIs but I wasn't aware of a black model. Looks cool if its original.

FYI, I'm not interested in it and I'm not related to the seller in any way. Well, okay, its my Grandmother's (just kidding)!

Sarge · April 21st, 2005, 12:16 PM

I'm gonna stick my neck out here, but I've never seen nor heard of a genuine Fender 52 re-issue in black.

Raymond · April 21st, 2005, 12:24 PM

I'm not sure either, but wasn't a black 52RI one of the prizes of the TDPRI fundraising raffle a couple of years ago? Paul would know.

Geo · April 21st, 2005, 12:25 PM

I'm pretty certain they did make a limited amount of black
maybe in '97 or '98(?). Think there may have even been
a thread on here about that a couple years back.
Those are even rarer than the Copper ones.

maestrovert · April 21st, 2005, 12:26 PM

hmmmm not impossible, but also not probable...my bet would be either a partscaster, or a refin.
my recently completed "sparklecaster" is '52 Ri Fender parts and specs, ie: '52Ri replacement neck, '52 vintage Pups etc....i'll never sell, BUT IF i listed it, i'd definitely add the disclaimer of partscaster, while touting the '52 specs....but others i know ( & i learned the hard way too)have no such scruples.....
caveat emptor Bro's

Sunburst Island · April 21st, 2005, 01:06 PM

Yes they have been made, MIA and MIJ.

vibrolux40w · April 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM

like hens teeth, but its the real deal.

Dana · April 21st, 2005, 01:15 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we had one as a prize on the TDPRI giveaway a couple of years ago. 52 RI's did come in both Copper and Black.

ADDED:

Aha, my memory still works!

http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?p...giveaway#86643

Mik · April 21st, 2005, 01:20 PM

YES

The black 52RI's were made around 1997 and were distributed for sale in 1997, I saw them at Fender dealers in 1997.

Mik

Riverslide · April 21st, 2005, 03:21 PM

I had a MIA black '52 reissue (made in '97). It was an exceptional piece that I regretted selling.
It will be eventually replaced with one like it. (The tele that it helped pay for was exeptional also).

jwells393 · April 21st, 2005, 07:17 PM

I have a black MIJ 52 RI.

You probably haven't seen one of these ........ also MIJ around 85-86.

sneakyjapan · April 21st, 2005, 08:38 PM

I too own a black MIA 52 ri. Bought here in Japan dated 03-12-97 on the certificate. The guitar is just too frickin cool.

mildwild · April 21st, 2005, 10:47 PM

There is a shop in Toronto that has one right now I saw it yesterday.
In fact I think they have had it for a few weeks.

SteveY · April 21st, 2005, 11:16 PM

I had a black & white AV '52 RI. Model 10-1303, 1997.

Mine was kinda heavy and inert, and I greatly prefer my '05 10-0202 butterscotch version, with better pickups and squarer edges, and a bit lighter.

slack · April 22nd, 2005, 04:46 PM

I have two AV 52RI Teles in Black.

thisfall · April 23rd, 2005, 02:55 PM

http://www.capsulemusic.com/retail/detail.asp?ID=1900

Sold though. It was $1100 Cdn. I think. I played it and found it really nice, though my Classic 50s is pretty much the same. I didnt notice a $600 deifference.

openbar · April 26th, 2005, 09:08 AM

Did Fender originally offer black way back in '52? Cool looking guitars.

slack · April 26th, 2005, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by openbar

Did Fender originally offer black way back in '52? Cool looking guitars.

I believe that Black came before Blond. There were Copper examples too, hence that RI color. Like with the RIs, Blond is much more common.

tahoebob54 · April 27th, 2005, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slack

Quote:

Originally Posted by openbar

Did Fender originally offer black way back in '52? Cool looking guitars.

I believe that Black came before Blond. There were Copper examples too, hence that RI color. Like with the RIs, Blond is much more common.

I bought a real fender 52 tele in black from someone on ebay, they got it from a friend whos father had died and it was under the bed all the years still in the original case and to top it off it had never been played, the seller had 0 feedback and only would take a money order and they live somewhere overseas, I know that it is real even if he would not send me any more picts and not answer my emails. I think I sent him somewhere around $25,000 for it and I know it will be here any day now. I won this auction in july of 2003 and like I said it will be here soon. I think I here the UPS truck right now.

No I was wrong it was not the UPS truck, should be here soon .

Bob P.

April 21st, 2005, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jerry J Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NoVa Posts: 646	eBay - a 52RI in Black? Is this a real factory 52RI? Its in black and the seller claims its original though the case isn't. I know Fender produced a limited amount of Copper 52RIs but I wasn't aware of a black model. Looks cool if its original. FYI, I'm not interested in it and I'm not related to the seller in any way. Well, okay, its my Grandmother's (just kidding)!

April 21st, 2005, 12:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Raymond Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Herndon, VA Posts: 2,417 3 Photos	I'm not sure either, but wasn't a black 52RI one of the prizes of the TDPRI fundraising raffle a couple of years ago? Paul would know. __________________ "That's a hard pill to swallow, buddy; when you find out what the blues is all about"

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Geo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hendersonville, TN Age: 59 Posts: 2,445 15 Photos	I'm pretty certain they did make a limited amount of black maybe in '97 or '98(?). Think there may have even been a thread on here about that a couple years back. Those are even rarer than the Copper ones. __________________ "Somewhere between culture and agriculture"

April 21st, 2005, 12:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
maestrovert Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Branch Mi. Posts: 6,206	black ? hmmmm not impossible, but also not probable...my bet would be either a partscaster, or a refin. my recently completed "sparklecaster" is '52 Ri Fender parts and specs, ie: '52Ri replacement neck, '52 vintage Pups etc....i'll never sell, BUT IF i listed it, i'd definitely add the disclaimer of partscaster, while touting the '52 specs....but others i know ( & i learned the hard way too)have no such scruples..... caveat emptor Bro's __________________ Sing the Song Bro' Play on Drummer www.godonthe.net

April 21st, 2005, 01:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sunburst Island Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: States Posts: 538	Black '52 reissue Teles Yes they have been made, MIA and MIJ.

April 21st, 2005, 12:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sarge Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pgh,Pa Age: 53 Posts: 3,549	I'm gonna stick my neck out here, but I've never seen nor heard of a genuine Fender 52 re-issue in black.

April 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
vibrolux40w TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NY METRO Age: 32 Posts: 90	like hens teeth, but its the real deal.

April 21st, 2005, 01:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dana Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ashland, Ma Posts: 1,694 11 Photos	Correct me if I'm wrong, but we had one as a prize on the TDPRI giveaway a couple of years ago. 52 RI's did come in both Copper and Black. ADDED: Aha, my memory still works! http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?p...giveaway#86643 __________________ www.good-ear.com www.miles.be Study music and not the musicians who play it. - Lincoln Goines

April 21st, 2005, 01:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mik Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,416	YES The black 52RI's were made around 1997 and were distributed for sale in 1997, I saw them at Fender dealers in 1997. Mik __________________ a "motor-bike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocations, to excess."-T.E. Lawrence

April 21st, 2005, 03:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Riverslide TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 39	You betcha I had a MIA black '52 reissue (made in '97). It was an exceptional piece that I regretted selling. It will be eventually replaced with one like it. (The tele that it helped pay for was exeptional also).

April 21st, 2005, 07:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 11,918 101 Photos	I have a black MIJ 52 RI. You probably haven't seen one of these ........ also MIJ around 85-86. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

April 21st, 2005, 08:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
sneakyjapan Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nippon Posts: 2,410 3 Photos	I too own a black MIA 52 ri. Bought here in Japan dated 03-12-97 on the certificate. The guitar is just too frickin cool. __________________ quasi mojo

April 21st, 2005, 10:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
mildwild Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 435 52 Photos	There is a shop in Toronto that has one right now I saw it yesterday. In fact I think they have had it for a few weeks.

April 21st, 2005, 11:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
SteveY Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Age: 58 Posts: 1,422	I had a black & white AV '52 RI. Model 10-1303, 1997. Mine was kinda heavy and inert, and I greatly prefer my '05 10-0202 butterscotch version, with better pickups and squarer edges, and a bit lighter.

April 22nd, 2005, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
slack Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,912	I have two AV 52RI Teles in Black.

April 23rd, 2005, 02:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
thisfall TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20	http://www.capsulemusic.com/retail/detail.asp?ID=1900 Sold though. It was $1100 Cdn. I think. I played it and found it really nice, though my Classic 50s is pretty much the same. I didnt notice a $600 deifference.

April 26th, 2005, 09:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
openbar Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 321	Did Fender originally offer black way back in '52? Cool looking guitars.