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Old December 2nd, 2011, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New Fender Tele Custom P90 -- Guitar Center Exclusive

Fender is finally catching up to what Squire did in 2003 (Squire "Tele Custom II"), and making it's own version if this guitar. Sadly, it's probably not American-made. I'm guessing it's made in Mexico?

You can see this in Guitar Center's "Musical Gifts to Light up the Holidays" pamplet/magazine. Good luck trying to find information on this guitar online, though. It seems to still be completely hidden, and can only be seen in this pamplet.

I've always considered the Squire Custom II Telecaster w/ p90 to be one of the greatest guitars ever made. They're not "perfect" when purchased, but the potential is so staggering that I almost bought two of them at my music shop many years ago. Since then, I've swapped the neck with a Fender Deluxe MIM neck (helped to warm and fatten the tone), Fralin P90s, CTS pots, did a full setup, and added some cosmetic upgrades. Now, this guitar is bliss to my ears.

The only thing that is intriguing about this whole deal, is that this new Fender Tele Custom comes with either an Alder or an Ash body. The Squire Custom II Tele came only with an Agathis body. Despite what you may hear people say, Agathis isn't a bad wood at all for a guitar. My Agathis body carries some great tone and sustain. However, I'm planning on swapping the guts from my Squire to this new Fender guitar, and probably will choose an Alder body. I'm thinking this would give the guitar a little more sparkle and character over the Agathis body. I'm pretty much counting out that you cannot buy custom made bodies that are exactly like these bodies with p90 routing, so swapping stuff from new guitars is one of my only choices. Finally, something came along that might be worth it! (aside from the Black Dove) :)

Priced at:

$649 Black (Alder)
$699 Sunset orange (Ash)

Fender even lets you choose from a maple or a rosewood neck.

Anyhow, letting you all know.

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Old December 2nd, 2011, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You can see this in Guitar Center's "Musical Gifts to Light up the Holidays" pamplet/magazine.
Good find. Check it out here: http://mydigimag.rrd.com/publication/?i=87085 - Pg 13.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 12:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When I saw it in the GC mailer - I was pretty excited. As of Wednesday the were not in the store yet, but should be there today. I am thinking about getting the Burnt Orange one. It either that or the Modern Player Jaguar with the P90's for about $150 less.
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See this thread. She's a beauty.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...tele-p90s.html
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 01:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Speaking of P-90 tele's, I've been asking about this on another thread. I'd love to know if anyone's played one. This is an aweful lot of guitar for the money, and if the pickups are good, kind of blows the Squier Custom Modified II out of the water, feature and appearance wise. They're pretty new so little press is out there on them yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHINE-NT-FMP...59731809593964
Anybody touched one?

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Old December 2nd, 2011, 01:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Looks great, but I wouldn't trust it.

P90s and Semi-hollows don't mix very well. The noise factor goes up tremendously.

A tele with a floating bridge and p-90s isa great start though. It needs to be a solid body, and it needs to be in a physical store that I can play on. An American-made one would be even better!

I'd say currently, I'd probably take a good Squire Custom II tele over the shine guitar, just because I've heard and played on them. Just like with the squire, there's probably lots of setup work needed.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 02:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That Shine is also at Rondo music as the Douglas Gravity (tho without Bigsby).

http://www.rondomusic.com/gravityntfmp3ts.html
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Interesting that they went with a three-bolt neck:



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Old December 2nd, 2011, 04:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Went to guitar center to learn a few things:

(1) These guitars are in-store exclusives. They cannot be ordered online. You can have them shipped from another store. Only the larger stores get them.

(2) Rosewood fretboard only.

I chose to not order one, since I'd have to replace lierally every component except the body. A very expensive $650 endevour.

Question:

Where can I get a body just like it, but with 4 holes for a neck mount? It needs to be routed for P90s, and support that pickguard. Basically, I want to take everything from my Squier Custom II tele and transplant it into an Alder body.

There's alder black dove bodies on ebay from time to time. What do you think about them? They do have the relief in the back like a strat for added comfort. Would that be suitable for a transplant? Black is a must.
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Looks great, but I wouldn't trust it.

P90s and Semi-hollows don't mix very well. The noise factor goes up tremendously.

A tele with a floating bridge and p-90s isa great start though. It needs to be a solid body, and it needs to be in a physical store that I can play on. An American-made one would be even better!

I'd say currently, I'd probably take a good Squire Custom II tele over the shine guitar, just because I've heard and played on them. Just like with the squire, there's probably lots of setup work needed.
Gotta respectfully disagree there. I think it really comes down to the pups/od factor. I just picked up a cheapie Xaviere XV-600 and it can really crank fb and relatively hum free.

I have a Shine 335 and previously owned a Squier TCII. While both are nice, the Shine wins the qc battle...but not against my CV.
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Orange? NOT the best choice. I'd love a Black Dove if they'd just stick a 'proper' headstock on it.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 05:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Do you think I can simply just unscrew the pickguard on my custom II tele and transplant it into a Black Dove body?
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 05:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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3 bolt headstock is fine, bullet truss rod is fine if that's also there.

I'm sweating the fact, I expect the tuners to be trapezoid.

Am I right? :^(

But I can't complain too much. The Mid Boost FSR neck is really just what I've been asking for. That's a guitar with all the right moves; anything not just so is a 25 minute reversible fix.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 05:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Take a look at this and compare it with the Squire II Custom Telecaster:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Class...e#ht_500wt_922

It looks like I'd need to get a new bridge/saddles. The bridge saddles on the Custom II is a 4-screw thing. This is a 3-screw bridge. What would be a good bridge/saddle to set up with this from Warmoth?

Can you guys see any other problems that I should look out for doing this transplant? Sorry to derail the thread...should I make a new thread?

Edit: The screw holes won't line up.

Ugh, back to square one. Maybe I'll just leave it alone. The Agathis sounds fine. Worst thign is blowing lots of money to get an alder body, and have it turn out worse. What's your guyses take?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 11:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I just picked one up tonight from my local GC. Great guitar and gives my Gibson Les Paul 50s tribute with P90's a good run for it's money.

I had a 72 Thinline Tele and the neck feels close to that but maybe more in the C territory than U of the Thinline. Skinny vintage style frets like a 72 Custom but the fret board feels flatter.

The P90's have lots of bite but mellow out very nice with the tone rolled off while still maintaining nice body and character. My store in AZ got theirs in only last week. One black and one orange which is not orange to me but very close to the crimson red transparent of the Jim Atkins JAE-90 Tele. The catalog picture for the red/orange version does not do it justice and is not even close to what it really looks like.

If you like the P90 sound I think you'd really like this guitar, lots of snarl, bite and grit but can become really smooth and mellow too with the tone rolled off...just like a P90 should.

I have the Inspired my John Lennon Casino with Gibson USA P90's, had a Epiphone Riviera P93 (pretty dark sounding for P90's without mods), have a Gibson Les Paul 1958 R8 custom made with P90's and the 50's Tribute Les Paul Studio P90. This Tele holds it own against those with no problem.

They do seem to be in short supply, available only in store and popular. If you run across one and like it I wouldn't pass on it. At the moment GC is still running a a 15% off coupon.

I'm thinking of changing the P90 covers to black, however the cream with white binding is starting to grow on me.

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bought the orange one today and took it back after a couple hours. beautiful guitar, but those P-90's were just harsh, bassy and unmusical. maybe i'm just not a P-90 guy. . .
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bought the orange one today and took it back after a couple hours. beautiful guitar, but those P-90's were just harsh, bassy and unmusical. maybe i'm just not a P-90 guy. . .
Maybe, P90's are not for everyone and certainly not the tone you'd expect from a Tele. Tone is a funny thing, I absolutely loved the look if the guitar but I just couldn't get into the Tele twang of my reissue 1962 double bound (now I'll be baned as a newbie from the Tele forum ).

This FSR Tele Custom P90 has that bound look with a P90 Gretsch like snarl. The pups are a little bright and brittle at 10 on the tone, that's they way of a P90. Mine dialed down between 8 and 4 on the tone with the volume at 8 through my VOX AC or Fender Reissue Blues Deluxe with a Jensen P12N and it sound pretty creamy and delish to me. Top it off with the fact that I like skinny vintage frets and they are hard to find now days, most everything being stock med-jumbo.

Like I said though, tone is a very particular thing. All the sales people were sad to see it go and not surprised that it left so fast.

I'll try to post some picture tomorrow.
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The neck is a comfortable C to me and not the U shape that I remember from my 72 Thinline. I am not sure that Fender offers both a maple and rosewood neck. The mailing listed a maple neck but the only two in my store had rosewood boards that are non-varnished. The Black one was a very light and streaky rosewood that had a very flat texture to it. It didn't quite go with the whole black/tux thing but really made that guitar neck stand out.

Again the mailing shows a solid type red color. You can see that the "orange" is transparent and is an ash body. The black version is an alder body. The red does have a orange tint to it but more like tomato juice.
Upon further reflection the "Sunset Orange" is not even close to the JA-90 transparent red.

Both felt about the same weight to me at the store with the alder/black one maybe a tad brighter but that could be just down to the pickups and such that ended up in that one.

The tux black looked hot and was a solid color but the grain showing through on the "orange" one was too hard to resist.

Here is a Sunset Orange one in the Arizona sun:
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I hope the pictures help as there is nothing about this guitar on the net at Fender or GC right now other than that mailing.
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