Do they make ashtrays for modern bridge plates?

bluesunit · June 6th, 2003, 01:19 PM

I have an American Series (2000), and I'm just wondering if they might exist....

thanks

Darrell · June 6th, 2003, 01:33 PM

A company called Mannmade makes them. Some folks have tried them with positive reviews. It will set you back though...

bluesunit · June 6th, 2003, 01:39 PM

whew......$175.....

good thing they're "temporarily out of stock"

Here's the link to Mannmade:

http://www.mannmadeusa.com/tele.htm

newbie · June 6th, 2003, 01:54 PM

$175 for a bridge

i'm glad i';ve already got a bridge or two

RichardL · June 6th, 2003, 02:11 PM

On a traditional Tele brige plate the "ash tray" snaps onto the bridge's raised side rails. On the flat American Standard bridge plate what would the "ash tray" have to hold onto?

Scotland · June 6th, 2003, 02:16 PM

get a 52RI bridge, an ash tray from ebay, problem solved ....a lot cheaper than Mannmade and you get a better sounding Tele at the same time. :P

Bluesgtr20 · June 6th, 2003, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotland

get a 52RI bridge, an ash tray from ebay, problem solved ....a lot cheaper than Mannmade and you get a better sounding Tele at the same time. :P

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the problem with that is that the american standard/series guitars have 3 holes in the bridge plate as opposed to 4 on the vintage so they won't line up. They are not compatible.

Dave Yeats · June 6th, 2003, 02:36 PM

The mounting screws are an issue, but also the string-through holes are reversed on Am. Std. bridges. The mouting holes are behind the string holes...

It's not impossible, but it's one of those "you can't get there from here" things.

Scotland · June 6th, 2003, 02:50 PM

That's yet another lesson I have learned here. I must be fast approaching a full 1% Fuzzyite.
Seriously, that is what is so fantastic about this place, you NEVER stop learning.

RichardL · June 6th, 2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotland

get a 52RI bridge, an ash tray from ebay, problem solved ....a lot cheaper than Mannmade and you get a better sounding Tele at the same time. :P

The 52 RI is not a direct fit on an American Standard body. Relationship between bridge mounting holes and string holes is different between the vintage and AS style bridges.

Telecaster · June 6th, 2003, 03:55 PM

The situation described above by Dave Yeats is the reason I made 3 compensated brass saddles for my American Teles

Darrell · June 6th, 2003, 05:57 PM

1) Buy a vintage bridge
2) Mount it with you own wholes. Make sure it cover everything (pick up route and AS wholes)
3) Turn it over. Drill your own whole using the stringthrough wholes as a guide.

Measure two times, cut ones. You don't want to mount it wrong on the first go, or you will end up with an extra set of wholes in your guitar.

Darrell · June 6th, 2003, 05:58 PM

Buy a vintage toploader bridge.
Mount it.
Forget about the stringthrough wholes and use the toploader wholes

Caper · June 6th, 2003, 06:04 PM

I did see a company on the net a few weeks ago that do make a vintage bridge specifically for American Series Teles. I'll try to find it again.

Caper · June 6th, 2003, 06:07 PM

Sorry I took so long

http://www.vintique.com/astbridge.html

I checked the price, it is $225

bluesunit · June 6th, 2003, 06:55 PM

Thanks Caper....

I'm really liking the stock bridge right now :)

I could buy myself a used MIM Tele for that money.

Michael Murphy · June 6th, 2003, 08:17 PM

Or if you can wait about another month, Joe Barden is releasing his vintage-style American Standard replacement bridge in July (at about half the cost of the big guys.....

Joe Barden's website....

-Michael
Charter Member S. Texas He-Man Emoticon Haters Local #316

Bluesgtr20 · June 6th, 2003, 08:19 PM

thats not even gonna fit the american series, you can obviously see the 4 screw holes and from what I heard there is some drilling to be done from the vintique bridge as well.

Michael Murphy · June 6th, 2003, 08:30 PM

No, it won't.

That's a picture of Joe's regular vintage bridge.

The Am. Std/Se version he is releasing next month will be a direct replacement.....

-M,
CMS.TH-MEHL#316

Bluesgtr20 · June 6th, 2003, 11:08 PM

Sorry Mike I meant the Vintique version I never saw your b/c we posted 2 minutes apart lol

Michael Murphy · June 7th, 2003, 07:58 PM

OK....

Yeah, the Vintique does have four mounting holes. You definately gotta drill new ones to install it. Not sure if they encroach on the old original holes or not, so plugging the old ones may or may not be necessary.....

-Michael
Charter Member S. Texas He-Man Emoticon Haters Local #316

GeertS · June 8th, 2003, 03:52 PM

The StewMac vintage bridge (available with ashtray cover as well) costs only $24,95 :D

http://www.stewmac.com/cgi-bin/hazel...83&I=P#details

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June 6th, 2003, 01:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluesunit TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hood River, Oregon Posts: 39	Do they make ashtrays for modern bridge plates? I have an American Series (2000), and I'm just wondering if they might exist.... thanks

June 6th, 2003, 01:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Darrell Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 48 Posts: 2,500	Mannmade A company called Mannmade makes them. Some folks have tried them with positive reviews. It will set you back though...

June 6th, 2003, 01:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
bluesunit TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hood River, Oregon Posts: 39	Thanks Darrell whew......$175..... good thing they're "temporarily out of stock" Here's the link to Mannmade: http://www.mannmadeusa.com/tele.htm

June 6th, 2003, 01:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
newbie Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 226	wow! $175 for a bridge i'm glad i';ve already got a bridge or two

June 6th, 2003, 02:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
RichardL Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Anaheim Hills, CA Posts: 897 3 Photos	How would it stay in place? On a traditional Tele brige plate the "ash tray" snaps onto the bridge's raised side rails. On the flat American Standard bridge plate what would the "ash tray" have to hold onto?

June 6th, 2003, 02:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Scotland Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, Yewrup Age: 54 Posts: 6,510 3 Photos	Solution get a 52RI bridge, an ash tray from ebay, problem solved ....a lot cheaper than Mannmade and you get a better sounding Tele at the same time. :P __________________ All those who believe in psycho-kinesis, raise my hand !

June 6th, 2003, 02:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dave Yeats Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, Texas, USA Age: 33 Posts: 767 50 Photos	not only 3 vs. 4 holes The mounting screws are an issue, but also the string-through holes are reversed on Am. Std. bridges. The mouting holes are behind the string holes... It's not impossible, but it's one of those "you can't get there from here" things.

June 6th, 2003, 02:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Scotland Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, Yewrup Age: 54 Posts: 6,510 3 Photos	Oh well That's yet another lesson I have learned here. I must be fast approaching a full 1% Fuzzyite. Seriously, that is what is so fantastic about this place, you NEVER stop learning. __________________ All those who believe in psycho-kinesis, raise my hand !

June 6th, 2003, 03:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	American vs Vintage The situation described above by Dave Yeats is the reason I made 3 compensated brass saddles for my American Teles

June 6th, 2003, 05:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
Darrell Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 48 Posts: 2,500	Here are the steps 1) Buy a vintage bridge 2) Mount it with you own wholes. Make sure it cover everything (pick up route and AS wholes) 3) Turn it over. Drill your own whole using the stringthrough wholes as a guide. Measure two times, cut ones. You don't want to mount it wrong on the first go, or you will end up with an extra set of wholes in your guitar.

June 6th, 2003, 05:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
Darrell Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 48 Posts: 2,500	Option 2 Buy a vintage toploader bridge. Mount it. Forget about the stringthrough wholes and use the toploader wholes

June 6th, 2003, 06:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Caper Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,169 7 Photos	I did see a company on the net a few weeks ago that do make a vintage bridge specifically for American Series Teles. I'll try to find it again.

June 6th, 2003, 06:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
Caper Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,169 7 Photos	Sorry I took so long http://www.vintique.com/astbridge.html I checked the price, it is $225

June 6th, 2003, 06:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
bluesunit TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hood River, Oregon Posts: 39	Gulp..... Thanks Caper.... I'm really liking the stock bridge right now :) I could buy myself a used MIM Tele for that money.

June 6th, 2003, 08:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
Michael Murphy Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: I can hit the Pacific Ocean and/or Canada with a rock from here... Age: 62 Posts: 1,073	Or if you can wait about another month, Joe Barden is releasing his vintage-style American Standard replacement bridge in July (at about half the cost of the big guys..... Joe Barden's website.... -Michael Charter Member S. Texas He-Man Emoticon Haters Local #316 __________________ *Just an analog boy in a digital world...*

June 6th, 2003, 08:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bluesgtr20 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rockwall, TX Age: 29 Posts: 414 10 Photos	thats not even gonna fit the american series, you can obviously see the 4 screw holes and from what I heard there is some drilling to be done from the vintique bridge as well. __________________ God Bless the Troops and the USA!!!

June 6th, 2003, 08:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
Michael Murphy Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: I can hit the Pacific Ocean and/or Canada with a rock from here... Age: 62 Posts: 1,073	No, it won't. That's a picture of Joe's regular vintage bridge. The Am. Std/Se version he is releasing next month will be a direct replacement..... -M, CMS.TH-MEHL#316 __________________ *Just an analog boy in a digital world...*

June 6th, 2003, 11:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bluesgtr20 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rockwall, TX Age: 29 Posts: 414 10 Photos	Sorry Mike I meant the Vintique version I never saw your b/c we posted 2 minutes apart lol __________________ God Bless the Troops and the USA!!!

June 7th, 2003, 07:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
Michael Murphy Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: I can hit the Pacific Ocean and/or Canada with a rock from here... Age: 62 Posts: 1,073	OK.... Yeah, the Vintique does have four mounting holes. You definately gotta drill new ones to install it. Not sure if they encroach on the old original holes or not, so plugging the old ones may or may not be necessary..... -Michael Charter Member S. Texas He-Man Emoticon Haters Local #316 __________________ *Just an analog boy in a digital world...*

June 8th, 2003, 03:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
GeertS TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Drachten - The Netherlands Age: 57 Posts: 61 15 Photos	The StewMac vintage bridge (available with ashtray cover as well) costs only $24,95 :D http://www.stewmac.com/cgi-bin/hazel...83&I=P#details [/img]