Brown's Canyon? Old Growth Redwood? Tele-bration? Why the silence?

[johnnytronics]

Back up, with re-worded description. Mine's commin' today!
http://www.fender.com/products/searc...tno=0170142721

[Sofaplayer]

Originally Posted by savofenno

It seems i will get my Brown`s Canyon Tele sometime next week from Thomann Cyberstore, Germany.
It has been very unclear for a week now what guitar they have for me. I began to fear that it was a Old Growth one, but now i can see my customer page, in follow order part, that it is IT.
If it wasn`t the right one, i was preparing to buy 3 CIJ/MIJ Fender guitars, Telecaster 1962 Custom RI 3TSB, 1966 Jazzmaster RI CAR and Precision 1951RI Sting 2TSB bass from Ishibashi Japan.

I've got mine from Thomann, it's an Old Growth. The invoice says Browns Canyon and mentions the trestle bridge. They obviously mixed that up. Still, it's a great, great guitar! I'm sure you will get an Old Growth, too but you really should stop worrying. This guitar is worth the money, the wood is very exclusive and you will never come across a Tele like this again. This one is really special, trestle bridge or not.

[savofenno]

Originally Posted by Albert

"Whats the difference between a Broadcaster a nocaster and aTelecaster? Thats the difference between a Browns Canyon Telecaster and Old Growth Telecaster."

A Tele made of redwood is nothing more than a Tele made of redwood, so from a purely utilitarian prospective why should anyone care about the origin of the wood? However, for rail fans, like myself, as well as for those who have a connection to the Browns Canyon area the guitar released at the January NAMM 2011 show struck a very special chord. I thought Fender Marketing did a fantastic job initially and was thrilled about the prospect of owning a nice utilitarian guitar as well as a bit of railroad and northern California history. Oh well, so much for that now. I hear the train a comin', it's rolln' round the bend so it's time to get out my three Custom Shop Telecasters and play Johnny Cash songs as a tribute to what could have been,

To me it has a special meaning to have a classic guitar made of railroad bridge.
I am a long-time railroad modeler, with American Trains as prototype. You know, that 1900-1955 steam and early 40`-50`s diesel thing., HO scale, brass.

[Sofaplayer]

Originally Posted by savofenno

To me it has a special meaning to have a classic guitar made of railroad bridge.
I am a long-time railroad modeler, with American Trains as prototype. You know, that 1900-1955 steam and early 40`-50`s diesel thing., HO scale, brass.

Well then, prepare to pay a ridiculous price on the used market for one of the few real Browns Canyon Teles, but it will be just the same guitar to look at, to play and in tone as the Old Growth.

[savofenno]

Originally Posted by Sofaplayer

Well then, prepare to pay a ridiculous price on the used market for one of the few real Browns Canyon Teles, but it will be just the same guitar to look at, to play and in tone as the Old Growth.

There`s a good chance i will be quite satisfied if i, most probably, get an OG Tele-Bration 60th Anniversary Tele.

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by savofenno

To me it has a special meaning to have a classic guitar made of railroad bridge.
I am a long-time railroad modeler, with American Trains as prototype. You know, that 1900-1955 steam and early 40`-50`s diesel thing., HO scale, brass.

I wonder if Neil Young heard about the wood and got the good stuff first. No offense guys, just a "funny" thought.

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It is rough watching you guys go through the life cycle of your passion for this model, and in some cases the extinguishing of that passion. Have not seen very much of this Lovestruck kinda behavior since the economy tanked and reading the thread start to finish, it makes me think of GuitarLust 1999 and makes me wish I was also in love like that. Sometimes.

All this attention to the precise origins of this lightweight redwood has me bemused, though. Sure, any first growth, clear, straight grained lightweight wood gets my ears pricked up but these guitars are really gonna have to be handled with care. Denting and splitting are a real danger, so be gentle with them. These timbers were probably employed with no coatings at all and the natural substances in the wood have been offgassing into the California air for a very long time, by redwood's standards. Redwood is way less punky, a way better wood resource than wood from the cousin Sequoia but it is not a forever substance.

But that's all about the sizzle and the spittle of the steak. Let's look past all the marketing stuff and look at some nut and bolt issues:

1) I strongly suspect these custom "embossed" neck plates are made of yellow pot metal and not steel plate. This type of decorative neck plate is, to me, a liability because these can and do fail. Overtighten the neck screw and the corner of the plate may slough right off. Fender's got to put the best material they can find into each neck plate - surely the steel can be engraved at only some added expense;

2) Even though this guitar has great tuners, pickups, etc. it is still stuck with the American Standard bridge (to my amazement). Mark's demo seems valid and genuine. The neck position is gorgeous, the middle position is cool, but the bridge position? Oops, again. Mark is clearly a talented and tasty player but that bridge does not sound "twangy" to me.

++

What this means to me is the FMIC market logic is this:

1) Back up and validate the American Standard bridge choice with these TeleBration models, for to use another bridge is to admit that all the many customers who buy the usual American Standards are getting short change;

2) Keep the would be customers diverted and in the dark about other, less essential but sexier details about the special model and say next to nothing about the underlying specifications of the rest of the guitar;

3) Just basically take the hopeless lovestruck cases (the guys with I heart Leo tattooed on their bicep) and milk them for all it is worth.


You guys deserve better. Thanks for letting me lurk in on your cool thread, seriously.

[Sofaplayer]

Now that's a critical point of view! But doesn't it all depend on what you're after? If you're looking for a super twangy heavy duty Punkrock axe that will withstand even hitting a biker over the head (read this in another thread and laughed my head off), don't buy the Old Growth. However if you're looking for a warmer and smoother kind of Tele sound that still has the Fender tone in spades, go and get it. If you don't like the bridge, change it. If the neck plate should ever fail, get a standard neck plate and keep the broken Old Growth plate in the case. But I don't see that happening unless you unscrew the neck regularly.

The wood is kind of soft, that is true. And an oil finish is always vulnerable. So if you hit it hard, it will get relic'ed sooner than other Teles. But splitting? Maybe if you expose the guitar to constant and heavy changes in temperature and humidity. But then many other guitars would fail, too.

You will have a hard time looking for any first growth wood with that kind of resonance.

[tonewoods]

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

All this attention to the precise origins of this lightweight redwood has me bemused, though.

Yeah, me too....

I actually make my living procuring woods for instrument makers to do their magic with, and if Fender wanted to make one stinking trip to redwood country, they would find all kinds of old material to work with, from old water tanks to wine vats (now there's a good story to work with), to other bridges from the late 1800's, all with magic tonal qualities....

The stuff is everywhere...

Here's a Drop-Top Tom Anderson built for me 20 years ago, made from some lightweight old-growth curly redwood...
Sounds great...

Originally Posted by Sofaplayer

I've been to the Californian Sequoia National Park a few years ago and it has been one of the most overwhelming experiences in my life. Now a dream comes true, a guitar made from those trees.

No, that's a different animal...

Those are the Sequoiadendron giganteum, the giant sequoia....
Shorter and stubbier than the subject of this thread, the Sequoia sempervirens, or coastal redwood...

I've only seen one piece of Sequoiadendron giganteum ever, and it was not something you'd want to build a guitar out of....
Very soft to the fingernail, and brittle as hell...
The body might shatter with one good blow...

In fact, that's kinda what spared those trees...
They shattered when they hit the ground, so the wood was not as commercially appealing as the coastal redwood...

[johnnytronics]

Okay, so it's here! Very lightweight, definitely under 7 lbs. Neck is a nice chunky "U". Body has character, grain and other markings. For all the folks who crave "thinskins" this is basically "no" skin! You can feel the grain, especially on the sides. Doesn't feel like machine made. So, nice neck, lightweight, virtually no finish. I'm not loving the American Standard bidgeplate and saddles, and in fact just ordered a Glendale with Intone brass saddles, but that's just my preference. Very articulate in the midrange. Me likey!

[tonewoods]

Pics??

[johnnytronics]

Some quick iPhone shots, but you get the general idea

[tonewoods]

Thanks!!

[Rockbreaker]

I love the grain on the shot from the back. Hey johnytronnics, that's a nice GOAT in your avatar photo, where was the pic taken? was that out here on L.I.? looks like one of the local beaches. Where in NYC are you? I grew up in Manhattan, Hell's Kitchen (44th. bet. 9th.&10th.) , 23rd in Chelsea and last place was Spring st. in SoHo Moved out in the early nineties. That's a beautiful guitar. Congrats.

[TucsonTele]

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

I wonder if Neil Young heard about the wood and got the good stuff first. No offense guys, just a "funny" thought.

++

It is rough watching you guys go through the life cycle of your passion for this model, and in some cases the extinguishing of that passion. Have not seen very much of this Lovestruck kinda behavior since the economy tanked and reading the thread start to finish, it makes me think of GuitarLust 1999 and makes me wish I was also in love like that. Sometimes.

All this attention to the precise origins of this lightweight redwood has me bemused, though. Sure, any first growth, clear, straight grained lightweight wood gets my ears pricked up but these guitars are really gonna have to be handled with care. Denting and splitting are a real danger, so be gentle with them. These timbers were probably employed with no coatings at all and the natural substances in the wood have been offgassing into the California air for a very long time, by redwood's standards. Redwood is way less punky, a way better wood resource than wood from the cousin Sequoia but it is not a forever substance.

But that's all about the sizzle and the spittle of the steak. Let's look past all the marketing stuff and look at some nut and bolt issues:

1) I strongly suspect these custom "embossed" neck plates are made of yellow pot metal and not steel plate. This type of decorative neck plate is, to me, a liability because these can and do fail. Overtighten the neck screw and the corner of the plate may slough right off. Fender's got to put the best material they can find into each neck plate - surely the steel can be engraved at only some added expense;

2) Even though this guitar has great tuners, pickups, etc. it is still stuck with the American Standard bridge (to my amazement). Mark's demo seems valid and genuine. The neck position is gorgeous, the middle position is cool, but the bridge position? Oops, again. Mark is clearly a talented and tasty player but that bridge does not sound "twangy" to me.

++

What this means to me is the FMIC market logic is this:

1) Back up and validate the American Standard bridge choice with these TeleBration models, for to use another bridge is to admit that all the many customers who buy the usual American Standards are getting short change;

2) Keep the would be customers diverted and in the dark about other, less essential but sexier details about the special model and say next to nothing about the underlying specifications of the rest of the guitar;

3) Just basically take the hopeless lovestruck cases (the guys with I heart Leo tattooed on their bicep) and milk them for all it is worth.


You guys deserve better. Thanks for letting me lurk in on your cool thread, seriously.

Agree with everything. The less twangy bridge pickup is to my liking as an alternative. The neckplate and the bridge can be changed and the originals put in the case. As for the denting, well, I don't beat my women either ....

[Jeff H]

I have enough genuine old growth redwood for about 12 instruments. The tree came from So Oregon and sawn into two 32" by 55 " planks around 50 years ago. They were originally used for a very large table. I got these from the original maker of the table and have owned them for 10 years. While not creosoted or chemically treated and full of train oil and fuel, as were most bridge timbers, they are clean and dry.

As to the Browns Canyon Trestle story... hype, and bait and switch come to mind. Why hype the story of 500 Brown Canyon guitars before you have actually slabbed out and profiled the blanks to get an actual number? The "story" smells of corporate "bs".... as in: too much story.

Last summer I resawed about 2000 board feet of old growth pickle vats from central Calif near Fresno. 1 3/4 inch thick ..10-12" wide .. Black to dark brown in color. Bone dry, 100 % quarter sawn. The wood cost $1000.....
Look ,and redwood is available.

[Sofaplayer]

Originally Posted by Jeff H

Look ,and redwood is available.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that old growth redwood is available in redwood country. Strange enough, nobody but Fender uses it to build guitars. At least none of the big manufacturers or at least not to my knowledge.

That bridge thing indeed is a failed marketing strategy. That doesn't change a thing for me. Love that redwood.

[savofenno]

Originally Posted by Sofaplayer

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that old growth redwood is available in redwood country. Strange enough, nobody but Fender uses it to build guitars. At least none of the big manufacturers or at least not to my knowledge.

That bridge thing indeed is a failed marketing strategy. That doesn't change a thing for me. Love that redwood.

I have a vague memory that there was some Rickenbacker model(s) using redwood bodies.
Whatever, my Tele-Bration 60th Anniversary Redwood Telecaster is on it´s way to me now. Not a long distance from Germany/Holland to me, so i guess i have it next wednesday or thursday,

[whitecat]

Peavey's got some stuff in their lineup with curly redwood at the moment. Possibly just basses, I'm not 100% sure.

Suhr have done redwood guitars but only on their 'exotic' range which means pretty limited availability and not something you can even easily special order.

I'm sort of starting to get the picture (partly thanks to boris too) that redwood might be a really difficult wood to work with and make 'stable' in a guitar. That would explain the dearth of redwood guitars out there as well as the problems that Fender had. It also explains why some people here can state (as fact) that there is in fact lots of old growth redwood out there - there is - but it must be too much of a pain to be able to fashion into good guitars.

Anyway, mine is here now finally. It's super light (6.5 lbs ish I would guesstimate) and it's loud (unplugged), so there's not a lot to complain about. The neck is nice - I've never played a Hot Rod neck before but I think I like it, it's not too slim but still feels pretty quick. As has been mentioned the "oil" finish is "barely there" - it almost doesn't seem like there's any lacquer at all, or that it's all already sunk into the wood. Grain looks cool, there's a few filled nail holes in mine too. It's a three-piece body by the looks of things but you can really only tell by looking at the 'top side' or right next to the control plate where there's a funky grain pattern that doesn't quite line up - the grain-matching on the top itself is decent in general where it matters. Would like to think that it came from a wine barrel, maybe, if not a rail bridge - but then it would have to be really old as wooden wine barrels in NorCal at any respectable producer have been invariably oak for quite some time (and they only get used twice before going on to serve other duties, sometimes as hard-liquor casks)

Will get pics up in due time. Now to decide whether to execute the order for the Old Growth Pine...

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by whitecat

I'm sort of starting to get the picture (partly thanks to boris too) that redwood might be a really difficult wood to work with and make 'stable' in a guitar. That would explain the dearth of redwood guitars out there as well as the problems that Fender had. It also explains why some people here can state (as fact) that there is in fact lots of old growth redwood out there - there is - but it must be too much of a pain to be able to fashion into good guitars.

Congrats on your new guitar!

+1 on working with redwood. I have a USACG Tele project that has been taking forever in large part because the figured redwood cap (69 Thinline type) is so fragile and has picked up tiny dents just during the finish process (which all the other wood bodies handle with ease). I've tried making items (not guitars) out of old wood, including salvage from kitchens, etc. and the 2 types of wood that seem most vulnerable are redwood and douglas fir. The natural "glue" in these types of woods is in short supply to start with, and over time more and more is lost and it seems problematic to try and restore the resilience. So the wood can be brittle. But in exchange the wood can be light and resonant. By comparison a lot of the wood types that seemed better preserved were also heavy.

[ukraider]

Initailly promoted as the Brown's Canyon Telecaster at the N2011 NAMM it now seems that fender's supplier did not either have enough wood to start with to make 500 guitars or quantity of wood they had was not of suifficient quality to make 500, so thay have had to source other 'old growth' redwood.

For fender to say that the Brown's Canyon Guitar was never actually built here is a link to their own forum with pictures of the very same guitar.

http://www.fender.com/community/foru...hp?f=7&t=56513

The neckplate on the Browns Canyon is far better in my opinion to the new Old Growth one, so if you happen to stumle acreoss a Brown Canyon model, buy it there and then as it will surely only raise in value.

ukraider

[Sofaplayer]

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

Congrats on your new guitar!

+1 on working with redwood. I have a USACG Tele project that has been taking forever in large part because the figured redwood cap (69 Thinline type) is so fragile and has picked up tiny dents just during the finish process (which all the other wood bodies handle with ease). I've tried making items (not guitars) out of old wood, including salvage from kitchens, etc. and the 2 types of wood that seem most vulnerable are redwood and douglas fir. The natural "glue" in these types of woods is in short supply to start with, and over time more and more is lost and it seems problematic to try and restore the resilience. So the wood can be brittle. But in exchange the wood can be light and resonant. By comparison a lot of the wood types that seemed better preserved were also heavy.

If you ever have the chance to look at / examine an Old Growth Redwood Tele, I'd appreciate a few comments about the wood. You seem to have a lot of experience with redwood and it would be interesting to hear your opinion about the wood quality of this fine guitar.

[tonewoods]

Originally Posted by Sofaplayer

If you ever have the chance to look at / examine an Old Growth Redwood Tele, I'd appreciate a few comments about the wood.

I'm not Boris, but I'll give it a go....

The redwood I've seen so far in these instruments is not something that would be even sellable by a tonewoods supplier, with it's uneven and wide (for old-growth) graining, and the discolorations....

But...

It's story and age give it a cool vibe, and I applaud Fender for using it....

I'd like to see Fender go with something like this:

[Jethro]

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

I wonder if Neil Young heard about the wood and got the good stuff first. No offense guys, just a "funny" thought.

Now THAT is damn funny. I was actually thinking the same thing, but I'm not so sure I can picture Neil playing a Tele....at least I can't recall it.

[Jethro]

Originally Posted by tonewoods

The redwood I've seen so far in these instruments is not something that would be even sellable by a tonewoods supplier, with it's uneven and wide (for old-growth) graining, and the discolorations....

That's a surprising comment. My old growth has a super tight grain, much like that of a Spruce top....unless you consider that to be wide???

I have a friend who plays a beautiful Taylor Acoustic with a Redwood top and the grain is extremely similar.

Every day I play this guitar I am more impressed at the Tones that come out of it. I have two other Tele's...one ash and one mahogany and although I love them both, they have nowhere near the tonal range as the redwood....truly. But of course that's my opinion which is totally subjective....whatever floats your boat I say....

[tonewoods]

Here's one that is kinda representative of what I was talking about:



And it's probably the grain orientation--and not the GPI count of the grain itself--that is giving the illusion of wide graining...

Yep:

[Jeff H]

Redwood is brittle
Redwood is prone to cracking
Redwood is soft
Redwood dust is toxic to some people

With a fellow by the name of Craig Carter (RIP) who was responsible for the "LUCKY" redwood on the 70's and 80's... we harvested, resawed and sanded about a 1000 redwood tops that were eventually sent to Spain some the 3 famous USA guitar producers.

As a competitior to cedar.. cedar is cheaper and more plentiful. Cedar for tops was
introduced by Ramirez in the late 60's and early 70's.. why.. cheap and available..
When redwood was cheap and available it was viable.. now it is more scarce and hyped and more expensive so not commonly used.
As with other natural resources.. when the availability goes down the price and desirability go up.

100's of thousands of picnic tables and benches and decks and garden bed frames and water bed frames were made from redwood.

The phrase "wanna buy a bridge" comes to mind when I think of the Brown Canyon wood.

As to Doug Fir.. becoming more scarce especially the old good stuff.. but l,uckily I am in the heart of it...a mill down the road is knwn for the old growth straight grain stuff, the majority going to Japan for Shoji frames and traditional housing and furniture.

Doug fir is much harder than redwood. Splinters are a bear...
often used for flooring in the early 1900's.. lasts forever.

Still the wood of choice for house framing.. at least locally... the good stuff is culled out.. and scooped up by folks like me...
I have a stash.

I have about 300 Doug Firs, 300 pine , 300 oak, 100 madrone, a few ash and alder and one redwood on my property .

[tonewoods]

I remember Craig....
That was some dandy redwood....

[Jethro]

Originally Posted by tonewoods

Here's one that is kinda representative of what I was talking about:



And it's probably the grain orientation--and not the GPI count of the grain itself--that is giving the illusion of wide graining...

Yep:

I can totally see what you're referring to, not to mention the orientation of that grain angle, which adds to the illusion of wider grain.

Here's a couple shots of mine. As you can see the orientation is more 90 degree'd with the front and back thus giving a tighter impression. Almost looks like a cedar top

[savofenno]

Originally Posted by Jeff H

Redwood is brittle
Redwood is prone to cracking
Redwood is soft
Redwood dust is toxic to some people

With a fellow by the name of Craig Carter (RIP) who was responsible for the "LUCKY" redwood on the 70's and 80's... we harvested, resawed and sanded about a 1000 redwood tops that were eventually sent to Spain some the 3 famous USA guitar producers.

As a competitior to cedar.. cedar is cheaper and more plentiful. Cedar for tops was
introduced by Ramirez in the late 60's and early 70's.. why.. cheap and available..
When redwood was cheap and available it was viable.. now it is more scarce and hyped and more expensive so not commonly used.
As with other natural resources.. when the availability goes down the price and desirability go up.

100's of thousands of picnic tables and benches and decks and garden bed frames and water bed frames were made from redwood.

The phrase "wanna buy a bridge" comes to mind when I think of the Brown Canyon wood.

As to Doug Fir.. becoming more scarce especially the old good stuff.. but l,uckily I am in the heart of it...a mill down the road is knwn for the old growth straight grain stuff, the majority going to Japan for Shoji frames and traditional housing and furniture.

Doug fir is much harder than redwood. Splinters are a bear...
often used for flooring in the early 1900's.. lasts forever.

Still the wood of choice for house framing.. at least locally... the good stuff is culled out.. and scooped up by folks like me...
I have a stash.

I have about 300 Doug Firs, 300 pine , 300 oak, 100 madrone, a few ash and alder and one redwood on my property .

What species and what kind of wood are pines in your property? You probably know the discussion year or two ago of CV50 Tele, many people doomed it as being s@@@t because of pine body. I tried to explain in vain, that species of harder pine woods exist, as here in Sweden, we think our pine is quality wood for many purposes.
If you look at Fender.com, there is many as expensive Telecasters others than Brown`s Canyon & Old Growth made of pine, even Strats.
Leo made his prototypes of pine.
I often wonder why oak is not used in guitar building? It`s hard and has pretty grain. Ours is.

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by Jethro

but I'm not so sure I can picture Neil playing a Tele....at least I can't recall it.

I've never personally seen him perform with a Tele but I recall images posted here at TDPRI of Neil playing I think a Broadcaster live in the very early 1970s.

Now, Steve Stills played Teles and Esquires more. Although the last 2 times I saw Steve he was playing mostly Stratocasters (including on June 2 at the Fox Auditorium in Oakland CA (The Buffalo Springfield).

[savofenno]

Order page at Thomann looks a little strange, but my redwood guitar is paid, mailed and coming in tuesday-wednesday next week.

The header says Old Growth Redwood Telecaster, but description below writes Brown`s Canyon, Northern California Railroad Trestle Bridge and other doubtful text of a guitar i now firmly believe will be the one the header has already said.

FENDER OLD GROWTH REDWOOD TELECASTER
ArtNr.: 259073
Fender Brown´s Canyon Telecaster NAT, e-guitar, Tele-Bration, special run, redwood body thomann from an 1890´s northern california trestle railway bridge, 52´ Hot Rod maple neck, maple fretboard, 21 Med Jumbo frets, 62´ Vintage pickup set, custom neckplate, vintage tuners, finish: natural, incl. case, comes with certificate and picture from the bridge.

There will be a NGD thread from me in due, not too long time! See you around!

[Jethro]

Originally Posted by johnnytronics

Okay, so it's here! Very lightweight, definitely under 7 lbs. Neck is a nice chunky "U". Body has character, grain and other markings. For all the folks who crave "thinskins" this is basically "no" skin! You can feel the grain, especially on the sides. Doesn't feel like machine made. So, nice neck, lightweight, virtually no finish. I'm not loving the American Standard bidgeplate and saddles, and in fact just ordered a Glendale with Intone brass saddles, but that's just my preference. Very articulate in the midrange. Me likey!

Curious....which bridge plate did you go with? I'm thinking of doing the same and was toying with the double cut for access. I was also looking at the Barden

[johnnytronics]

@Jethro,
I ordered the American Standard "Blackguard" Cold Rolled Steel. It's double cut and retrofits the American Standard hole placement. I've used Glendales in the past and loved them.
http://www.glendaleguitars.com/americanstandard.htm

[Jethro]

Thanks Johnny, I may have to go with one of them. Any recommendations on chrome or nickel plating?

As far as the saddles, which would be the best for a fairly accurate intonation? I'm also wondering about brass or aluminium....this guitar is definitely warmer toned than an ash body (which is actually why I like it), thus I don't really want to either brighten it or mellow it....any thoughts there??? Would the brass mellow it even more than the existing standard saddles???

[johnnytronics]

@Jethro
I should warn you that on the conversion brigde the saddle screws are freaky long, due to string through placement of the bridge. It's six in one, half dozen in the other, as I view the American Standard bridge to be unsightly also. As far as tone, I got brass saddles that do mellow the tone a bit, but also give it more depth, if that makes any sense. I may try one of the other saddle material combos in the future.

[Rickenbacker]

I'm new to this forum, only joined because I just bought my first telecaster.
(we're a Gibson family.........)
any way here she is, its a classy looking one, not really any nail holes except one on the top side near the neck. Nice tight grain, pretty smooth, plays nice.
Can't help but think that any one with an actual Browns Canyon will have a collectors item in 30 years time. I don't have a name for her yet, my other guitars have pole dancers monikers, Dallas (66 cherry red ES335) Montana (hummingbird) and Arizona (59 sunburst ES335 reissue). I don'[t want to call her Corona. Any suggestions ?

[Jethro]

Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

I'm new to this forum, only joined because I just bought my first telecaster.
(we're a Gibson family.........)
any way here she is, its a classy looking one, not really any nail holes except one on the top side near the neck. Nice tight grain, pretty smooth, plays nice.
Can't help but think that any one with an actual Browns Canyon will have a collectors item in 30 years time. I don't have a name for her yet, my other guitars have pole dancers monikers, Dallas (66 cherry red ES335) Montana (hummingbird) and Arizona (59 sunburst ES335 reissue). I don'[t want to call her Corona. Any suggestions ?

Welcome to the group....very nice indeed.

As far as names how 'bout "Red"

[savofenno]

Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

I'm new to this forum, only joined because I just bought my first telecaster.
(we're a Gibson family.........)
any way here she is, its a classy looking one, not really any nail holes except one on the top side near the neck. Nice tight grain, pretty smooth, plays nice.
Can't help but think that any one with an actual Browns Canyon will have a collectors item in 30 years time. I don't have a name for her yet, my other guitars have pole dancers monikers, Dallas (66 cherry red ES335) Montana (hummingbird) and Arizona (59 sunburst ES335 reissue). I don'[t want to call her Corona. Any suggestions ?

What do you think, shall we form a Redwood Tele Club?

[Jethro]

Great idea....I just started an Old Growth thread in the Guitar owners forum

[Rockbreaker]

Yo, jtronics, guess youmissed my post a few days back^^^^