Compensated bridge....

aztwang · May 29th, 2003, 10:31 PM

Any suggestions on where and which compensated bridge to lok into???

Telecaster · May 29th, 2003, 10:50 PM

What kind of bridge /guitar do you have. I may be able to help you out.

0le FUZZY · May 29th, 2003, 11:12 PM

Email me Don or call.

One of our fellow TDPRIer is now making them fer sale and they are GREAT.

I'll put yew in contact with him and he mite make yew a good deal. Those are fer yer Reissue aren't they?

He makes em fer others tew.

0le FUZZY

aztwang · May 29th, 2003, 11:56 PM

52 reissue Tele....Thanks.

Silverface · May 30th, 2003, 11:28 AM

Just order the compensated brass saddles from Stewmac - they work perfectly and at about $14 or so per set the price is great. I have them on all my Teles - I can't see spending 50 bucks on a set of saddles when these are available.

Telecaster · May 30th, 2003, 11:35 AM

Mine are not $50.00. And they are 3 different angles, not all the same angle and they have the correct vintage harware. They will intonate better. I don't want to get in trouble with Paul so I will leave it at that.

sean001 · May 30th, 2003, 12:19 PM

What if someone were to ask for more info about these saddles, you could share the info without breaking the rules right? Compensated saddles are my personal quest. Are these saddles you make or are these saddles you bought. What materials? Slotted? Brass? Threaded? Please share with the class. Enquiring minds want to know

Nathan · May 30th, 2003, 12:33 PM

Well, don't go with the Wilkinson, that's for sure! I splurged and the extra cost is not warranted, if you ask me. More of a novely when there are the non-adjustable ones out there.

Telecaster · May 30th, 2003, 01:00 PM

I have a few Tele's and was interested in getting some compensated saddles for my 52RI. I figured I would give it a shot in my shop. Well, they turned out perfectly. They have more mass than the std. saddles on a 52 RI and they intonated perfecty. Then I had the idea of fabricating saddles for my American Series Teles because they did not have the same bite as my 52. After some trial and error I found the winning combination. I installed the finished product on 2 of my AMSe Teles and what a change. Even with the stock Pups. I have since stocked my shop with soild brass, threaded brass, steel and threaded steel along with the proper hardware for each type. The vintage saddles have stainless fillister head intonation screws and slotted head height adj. screws. The AMSe have the modern type stainless hardware. I hope Paul doesn't get upset

sean001 · May 30th, 2003, 01:07 PM

I can't speak for Paul but you are trying to sell, I can't see Paul being upset, if you really got it right you are providing a service to Tele lovers on par with that of sliced bread. If you are really worried we could take this off list. I am really really interested in seeing some pics of your finished product. I currently use Barden saddles. They seem like the best so far. I am truly interested in what you have come up with. If you can do better than him, I would take a set in every flavor.

Silverface · May 30th, 2003, 01:20 PM

FWIW my previous post was referring to the high-priced saddles from some other makers (The "V" word among others). I wasn't talking about what Fuzzy mentioned - didn't even know what that post was about.

I wasn't aware that Larry made saddles in his home workshop until today - and his price is not nearly the fifty-bucks I was mentioning. I'd tend to order from a TDPRI-guy like Larry rather than Stewmac if I needed another set.

S0C7 · May 30th, 2003, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telecaster

I have a few Tele's and was interested in getting some compensated saddles for my 52RI. I figured I would give it a shot in my shop. Well, they turned out perfectly. They have more mass than the std. saddles on a 52 RI and they intonated perfecty. Then I had the idea of fabricating saddles for my American Series Teles because they did not have the same bite as my 52. After some trial and error I found the winning combination. I installed the finished product on 2 of my AMSe Teles and what a change. Even with the stock Pups. I have since stocked my shop with soild brass, threaded brass, steel and threaded steel along with the proper hardware for each type. The vintage saddles have stainless fillister head intonation screws and slotted head height adj. screws. The AMSe have the modern type stainless hardware. I hope Paul doesn't get upset

I'd love to see the finished product as well. I've been looking for a good set of steel compensated saddles that don't cost a fortune. Callaham said he could make them, but would charge somewhere around $50-60. Mannmade makes them, but never got back to me about availability. Therefore, I'd be interested to hear about these.

Thanks.

Telecaster · May 30th, 2003, 01:39 PM

First off, thanks Silverface for the loyalty to the TDPRI members. Second, Paul you will see a donation to the TDPRI for all your hard work. Third, Sean Email me with your contact info and I will discuss your needs personally. And last but not least, all my fellow TDPRI'ers, I will also discuss your needs personally. I will have a website up soon to profle me and my TELECASTER LOVE! By the way my love for the Telecaster is my Brother-in-Laws fault. I played a S*r*t until I married his beautiful sister. He goes by Telehoot on the TDPRI.

0le FUZZY · May 30th, 2003, 02:59 PM

This is close to the line I know but I will give you all a preview sent to me by Larry.

These are shrunk way down but show the work involved anyway.

I am only linkin pix from my server and I am not selling. Nice work Larry!!
http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/larryfsaddles.jpg
http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/larryfsaddles1.jpg
http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/larryfsaddles2.jpg

sean001 · May 30th, 2003, 03:18 PM

I see some good/great thought with these but these are not all they can be...yet.

In the first picture, the bottoms of the outside pairs are ground BRAVO.

In the third picture, the length adjustment screws are offset from center - MAJOR points. No one is doing that. That will go a long way toward keeping the strings from hitting into the height adjustment screws.

The last thing you need to do is to cut the ends of the saddles so they will butt tightly and cleanly together. For reference look at the ends of MannMades or Barden saddles. You are 90% of the way there. If you can get the ends to butt tight, you will probably have created the best compensated saddle available bar none.

See how the Bardens butt. That is the one thing you still need to get worked out to be king. If you were able, if it is possible to machine a saddle that intonated properly and had all the above attributes, I would gladly pay 50 bucks for a set. Keep up the good work, you are SO close.

TDPRI · May 30th, 2003, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean001

I can't speak for Paul but you are trying to sell, I can't see Paul being upset, if you really got it right you are providing a service to Tele lovers on par with that of sliced bread.

Ok, let me explian the policy and why it exists.

Sean001 wants some saddles so to him why shouldn't "Telecaster" be able to post photos, list details and in essanse "sell" his saddles here? Well, I'll tell you why. Telecaster isn't the only person here that makes some sort of product in their shop. There are dozens of folks that do that. And guess what, to the guys that make these items they just want to post a photo and talk about the product and give you a link to buy these "just to help out a fellow TDPer". So, if Telecaster can do it, then suddenly everyone can do it.

Everyone that wants to discuss their product here says that they are "only trying to do fellow guitar players a favor." Or they say, "it's not really a business I just do this in my spare time."

Now, as long as every one that's building something can sell it on the TDPRI that mean everyone selling anything can sell it on the TDPRI. Pretty soon, the place is swarming with dealers, manufacturers, brokers and reps selling every product ever created.

So, if I'm going to keep "some" of these guys out, I have to keep ALL of these guys out. Including the ones building a part in their garage that everyone wants or needs.

So, that's why the policy exists and why I guard this area so closely.

Thanks
Paul Green
PS. There are bad guys (not Telecaster) out there that want to sell you a worthless product and the TDPRI would be a terrific place to get suckers, er customers. This policy makes it easy to keep these guys out too.

Telecaster · May 30th, 2003, 03:36 PM

That was my original concept. I wanted them to butt together on angles. I am about a week away from the production of the angled end saddles. Before I talked about them I wanted to make sure they worked out on my Teles. I already have them speced out and all of the details that go along with it. Remember, I am a Tele playing family man and am not putting 10hrs a day into design and production. I fill orders as they come and have a limited # of saddles pre-made. I usually keep about 15 sets of each type on hand. As far as the angled ends go, I don't believe they will have any influence on tone, but they add to the"custom" look. I want to offer the best product I can provide for the least amount of $$.

sean001 · May 30th, 2003, 04:04 PM

Makes sense to me Paul. I am embarrassed to admit to never thinking about it like that. I am now enlightened. Plus if you say it, that's good enough for me. Hope I didn't sound like I was trying to do an end around on you.

Telecaster, I will hit you off list shortly.

Telecaster · May 30th, 2003, 04:04 PM

Like Paul said, He doesn't want, I don't want, and I am sure you don't want this place to become a "marketplace" for the " Handy Housewife Helper with 101 uses" Let's abide by the rules so we don’t ruin this wonderful place to discuss the instrument we love so much. I agree with his policy. I might, you might or Joe Shmoe may have the ultimate product to sell in an honest manner, but there are always the scammers out there as we all have seen on EBay. I am sure you aren't one I know I am not one but it's the others we need to shield ourselves from.

Skydog · May 30th, 2003, 04:04 PM

I like my saddles lined-up straight (alot!), the good ole' fasioned way. :P

May 29th, 2003, 10:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
aztwang TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 46	Compensated bridge.... Any suggestions on where and which compensated bridge to lok into???

May 29th, 2003, 10:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	Bridge What kind of bridge /guitar do you have. I may be able to help you out.

May 29th, 2003, 11:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	poles Email me Don or call. One of our fellow TDPRIer is now making them fer sale and they are GREAT. I'll put yew in contact with him and he mite make yew a good deal. Those are fer yer Reissue aren't they? He makes em fer others tew. 0le FUZZY

May 29th, 2003, 11:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
aztwang TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 46	Its for my.. 52 reissue Tele....Thanks.

May 30th, 2003, 11:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
Silverface Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach CA Age: 56 Posts: 1,865	Stewmac Just order the compensated brass saddles from Stewmac - they work perfectly and at about $14 or so per set the price is great. I have them on all my Teles - I can't see spending 50 bucks on a set of saddles when these are available. __________________ “No Chops – Great Tone” ©

May 30th, 2003, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	Silverface Mine are not $50.00. And they are 3 different angles, not all the same angle and they have the correct vintage harware. They will intonate better. I don't want to get in trouble with Paul so I will leave it at that.

May 30th, 2003, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
sean001 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilberts, Illinois Posts: 308	what if... What if someone were to ask for more info about these saddles, you could share the info without breaking the rules right? Compensated saddles are my personal quest. Are these saddles you make or are these saddles you bought. What materials? Slotted? Brass? Threaded? Please share with the class. Enquiring minds want to know __________________ The more you drink, the less I stink...

May 30th, 2003, 12:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nathan Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 197	Well, don't go with the Wilkinson, that's for sure! I splurged and the extra cost is not warranted, if you ask me. More of a novely when there are the non-adjustable ones out there.

May 30th, 2003, 01:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	How about we do it this way? I have a few Tele's and was interested in getting some compensated saddles for my 52RI. I figured I would give it a shot in my shop. Well, they turned out perfectly. They have more mass than the std. saddles on a 52 RI and they intonated perfecty. Then I had the idea of fabricating saddles for my American Series Teles because they did not have the same bite as my 52. After some trial and error I found the winning combination. I installed the finished product on 2 of my AMSe Teles and what a change. Even with the stock Pups. I have since stocked my shop with soild brass, threaded brass, steel and threaded steel along with the proper hardware for each type. The vintage saddles have stainless fillister head intonation screws and slotted head height adj. screws. The AMSe have the modern type stainless hardware. I hope Paul doesn't get upset

May 30th, 2003, 01:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
sean001 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilberts, Illinois Posts: 308	I can't speak for Paul but you are trying to sell, I can't see Paul being upset, if you really got it right you are providing a service to Tele lovers on par with that of sliced bread. If you are really worried we could take this off list. I am really really interested in seeing some pics of your finished product. I currently use Barden saddles. They seem like the best so far. I am truly interested in what you have come up with. If you can do better than him, I would take a set in every flavor. __________________ The more you drink, the less I stink...

May 30th, 2003, 01:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Silverface Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach CA Age: 56 Posts: 1,865	post clarification FWIW my previous post was referring to the high-priced saddles from some other makers (The "V" word among others). I wasn't talking about what Fuzzy mentioned - didn't even know what that post was about. I wasn't aware that Larry made saddles in his home workshop until today - and his price is not nearly the fifty-bucks I was mentioning. I'd tend to order from a TDPRI-guy like Larry rather than Stewmac if I needed another set. __________________ “No Chops – Great Tone” ©

May 30th, 2003, 01:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	Silverface, Paul, Sean001, and all the TDPRI'ers First off, thanks Silverface for the loyalty to the TDPRI members. Second, Paul you will see a donation to the TDPRI for all your hard work. Third, Sean Email me with your contact info and I will discuss your needs personally. And last but not least, all my fellow TDPRI'ers, I will also discuss your needs personally. I will have a website up soon to profle me and my TELECASTER LOVE! By the way my love for the Telecaster is my Brother-in-Laws fault. I played a Srt until I married his beautiful sister. He goes by Telehoot on the TDPRI.

May 30th, 2003, 02:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	Our frens sales This is close to the line I know but I will give you all a preview sent to me by Larry. These are shrunk way down but show the work involved anyway. I am only linkin pix from my server and I am not selling. Nice work Larry!! http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/larryfsaddles.jpg http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/larryfsaddles1.jpg http://www.thomaskinkadechico.com/larryfsaddles2.jpg

May 30th, 2003, 03:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
sean001 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilberts, Illinois Posts: 308	Oh so close! I see some good/great thought with these but these are not all they can be...yet. In the first picture, the bottoms of the outside pairs are ground BRAVO. In the third picture, the length adjustment screws are offset from center - MAJOR points. No one is doing that. That will go a long way toward keeping the strings from hitting into the height adjustment screws. The last thing you need to do is to cut the ends of the saddles so they will butt tightly and cleanly together. For reference look at the ends of MannMades or Barden saddles. You are 90% of the way there. If you can get the ends to butt tight, you will probably have created the best compensated saddle available bar none. See how the Bardens butt. That is the one thing you still need to get worked out to be king. If you were able, if it is possible to machine a saddle that intonated properly and had all the above attributes, I would gladly pay 50 bucks for a set. Keep up the good work, you are SO close. __________________ The more you drink, the less I stink...

May 30th, 2003, 03:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	I am one step ahead of you. That was my original concept. I wanted them to butt together on angles. I am about a week away from the production of the angled end saddles. Before I talked about them I wanted to make sure they worked out on my Teles. I already have them speced out and all of the details that go along with it. Remember, I am a Tele playing family man and am not putting 10hrs a day into design and production. I fill orders as they come and have a limited # of saddles pre-made. I usually keep about 15 sets of each type on hand. As far as the angled ends go, I don't believe they will have any influence on tone, but they add to the"custom" look. I want to offer the best product I can provide for the least amount of $$.

May 30th, 2003, 04:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
sean001 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilberts, Illinois Posts: 308	I humbly stand corrected Makes sense to me Paul. I am embarrassed to admit to never thinking about it like that. I am now enlightened. Plus if you say it, that's good enough for me. Hope I didn't sound like I was trying to do an end around on you. Telecaster, I will hit you off list shortly. __________________ The more you drink, the less I stink...

May 30th, 2003, 04:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
Telecaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 182	Hey Guys. I respect Pauls wishes Like Paul said, He doesn't want, I don't want, and I am sure you don't want this place to become a "marketplace" for the " Handy Housewife Helper with 101 uses" Let's abide by the rules so we don’t ruin this wonderful place to discuss the instrument we love so much. I agree with his policy. I might, you might or Joe Shmoe may have the ultimate product to sell in an honest manner, but there are always the scammers out there as we all have seen on EBay. I am sure you aren't one I know I am not one but it's the others we need to shield ourselves from.

May 30th, 2003, 04:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
Skydog Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 371	Tele bridge / saddles ?!?! I like my saddles lined-up straight (alot!), the good ole' fasioned way. :P