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Old February 26th, 2011, 06:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I always changeout the switch and jack, if they're not Oak and Switchcraft.
(And they aren't coming from China). That might be where some of the
pickup problems are coming from.

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Old February 26th, 2011, 07:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The CVC and CV Thinline use the same pickups.

There are way way more CVC owners here than CVT owners.
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Old February 26th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I always changeout the switch and jack, if they're not Oak and Switchcraft.
(And they aren't coming from China). That might be where some of the
pickup problems are coming from.

I agree, I've done the same with CIJ's, etc. These are very inexpensive mods to do that quickly enhances your guitar's stability. I did the same with the CV50 immediately along with a pup change (which was planned before I bought it).

As Mark says, I think there was a bad batch of pups or something funky going on here with the CVC's. I literally tried the pups in my CV50 for 5 minutes to be sure they worked before having the mods done to it, but I also don't recall people mentioning this issue at all with the initial run of CV50's... in fact, many were pleasantly surprised by the stock pups.
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Old February 27th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #24 (permalink)
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There are more owners of CV50 Teles here than any other model.
How would you possibly know that?
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Old February 27th, 2011, 01:39 AM   #25 (permalink)
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How would you possibly know that?
I was gonna say that same thing. I bet MIMs outnumber them at least 50 to 1
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Old February 27th, 2011, 01:58 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I was gonna say that same thing. I bet MIMs outnumber them at least 50 to 1
For S&G's I did a quick completed auction Ebay search, only counting the auctions that actually sold successfully and for full guitars, using the following search terms:

classic vibe telecaster (16 successfully sold)
mim telecaster (24 successfully sold)
american telecaster (148 guesstimate - 6 pages of results, stopped counting at page 3 of 6 with 74 successfully sold)

Assuming a trend I'd guess there were 148 american tele's sold, I simply got tired of counting, there were also additional mim's sold using terms such as "made in mexico" but I didn't bother to count those either.

And what I learned from all of this is that I should be doing much better things with my time ;)
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Old February 27th, 2011, 02:37 AM   #27 (permalink)
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FWIW, my 2010 American Deluxe Ash Telecaster arrived with a dead neck pickup. This is not limited to only CVC or CV50's.

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Old February 27th, 2011, 03:14 AM   #28 (permalink)
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How would you possibly know that?
cause Ive been here everyday for 14 years and keep track.
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Old February 27th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I was gonna say that same thing. I bet MIMs outnumber them at least 50 to 1
Sure all the MIM owners here combined will outnumber the CV's but not 1 model of guitar.

We collected over 300 serial numbers for the CV50's and the software here couldnt hold it all so a another thread had to be started. That was several years ago and in July 2011 the CV50's will be 3 years old.

The CV50's owners club is the biggest here.

See if you can collect over 300 serial numbers here from any 1 model of Tele and I will then say I was wrong.

I know for sure there are over 500 members here who own CV50's. Cause everytime I see a message where someone says they got one I put a mark on paper.

I read every CV message posted here and reply to most all of them one reason I have over 25k posts.

I knew someone would challenge me on this I really should have added this info in the eariler post.

The CV50's and CVC are the 2 most popular Teles in the 14 year history of this forum a quick glance at the main page just about any time of the day you will see threads are CV related its been that way ever since the CV50's came out.

There isnt a day that goes by without several CV related threads on the main page way more chatter about them than any single model.
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Pickups still working.......

My CVC pups are still working. I purchased it in April of '10. Added a CRL 4-way after a couple of weeks, then added the B-5 in August '10. Like Mark has stated, the factory switch is low quality. Maybe I averted failure by replacing the switch early on......... I think for the money I paid ($249) for the quitar, knowing full well that is a Chinese made product, any failure on the electronics (pups, switch or pots) should not be that big of a surprise. On the other hand, it I had purchased a MIA for (fill in the blank $$$$ or more) and had these "failures", I would not be as tolerant. But, that's just my opinion. WPO
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Old February 27th, 2011, 10:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Sure all the MIM owners here combined will outnumber the CV's but not 1 model of guitar.

We collected over 300 serial numbers for the CV50's and the software here couldnt hold it all so a another thread had to be started. That was several years ago and in July 2011 the CV50's will be 3 years old.

The CV50's owners club is the biggest here.

See if you can collect over 300 serial numbers here from any 1 model of Tele and I will then say I was wrong.

I know for sure there are over 500 members here who own CV50's. Cause everytime I see a message where someone says they got one I put a mark on paper.

I read every CV message posted here and reply to most all of them one reason I have over 25k posts.

I knew someone would challenge me on this I really should have added this info in the eariler post.

The CV50's and CVC are the 2 most popular Teles in the 14 year history of this forum a quick glance at the main page just about any time of the day you will see threads are CV related its been that way ever since the CV50's came out.

There isnt a day that goes by without several CV related threads on the main page way more chatter about them than any single model.
wouldnt this argument actually work AGAINST the CV then? because now it seems the combined issues of ALL other MIMs (regardless of model/make/production year/etc) is less than the single model of squier CV50 is what you're saying now.
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wouldnt this argument actually work AGAINST the CV then? because now it seems the combined issues of ALL other MIMs (regardless of model/make/production year/etc) is less than the single model of squier CV50 is what you're saying now.
I'm sure Mark will concoct some elaborate story to prove how you're exactly wrong

Of course Mark you have to understand these methods you're using are incredibly unscientific and don't really mean much?? I know you may have been here for 14 years counting guitars but the Classic Vibe line was only introduced 3 years ago wasn't it?
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Old February 27th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I have personally seen three bad pickups from the CV50 and CVC models (three between the two models, not three each). Tested with a multimeter; it's not the switch. This is a an actual issue with these guitars.

For the record, I've had my CV50 a couple of weeks now, and it has shown no issues.
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Reading mellecasters post about the eyelet solder being 90% of the problems with dead new pups. For my projects I use 60/40 solder. For a lot of the international market, they have switched to the lead free solder, which may contribute to the dead CVC pups.
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Old February 27th, 2011, 08:43 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I've got a CV50 coming in a week or two with a dead neck pup. I'm hoping to diagnose it and fix it, because some sucker sold it pretty cheap as it is.
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I've had my CV50s since the month they were reLeased here in the UK and I've had no problems at all. Changed my CVC pickups to Tonerider hot classics but only because the stocks were too thin for my liking.
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Old February 27th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I recently played one of the cvc's at my local big box guitar store. The neck pickup was awful, really quiet and dull. After seeing this thread I can't help but wonder if this was another case of bad pups/ switch/ wiring....
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Old February 28th, 2011, 09:24 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Another CVC bridge pup bites the dust!

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This is an actual issue with these guitars.
As I've posted a few times on other threads, I purchased a new CVC online from a small to medium size music store in late December last year and although the pups sounded pretty nice (a tiny bit thin, but probably could have been tweaked?), the bridge pup died after 2.5 weeks of playing maybe an hour a day?

Local luthier/guitar tech looked it over & was surprised it was totally dead. He said he rarely has seen a pup go out like that. I was lucky that my bro had his '95 Tele Special in the shop swapping out the bridge pup for a VN so the timing was perfect. I ran my CVC by & he put it in & I've been more than happy with the upgrade.

Just wondering what's up with all the CV pups going bad, or so it seems?
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Dead Bridge pickup on my CVC...

Purchased my CVC from Sweetwater in May of 2010 and the bridge pup died within 2 and a half weeks. I did replace the switch to no avail. Fortunately, I had a Duncan Broadcaster pup lying around, so I put that in. I did have to reverse the hot and ground on the neck pickup and cover in order to get the pups in phase. But the guitar sounds awesome now and the pups work very well together. Although, the guitar was still under warranty, I was so in love with it that I didn't want to take a chance on a replacement.
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