Push push pot for tele

Jammin'John · May 26th, 2003, 05:55 PM

Is there one that will fit (not push pull)

eryque · May 26th, 2003, 07:02 PM

What's a push-push pot?

inertian · May 26th, 2003, 07:27 PM

...actually makes sense, harder to screw up in the heat of battle. Don't know that this particular one would fit though.

http://guitarjones.net/php/freeshop/...id=379&ac_id2=[/url]

eryque · May 26th, 2003, 09:56 PM

does that mean you push it once and the switch is in one position, push it again and it's in the other position? how do you tell which is what in the heat of battle?

Ringo · May 26th, 2003, 10:16 PM

Hey Ian! I had that site bookmarked but lost it, thanks!
The push push pot looks like a cool thing, I've used the Push Pull pots ( should be called Pull / Push! ) in Strats to add the bridge pu in for extra pu combinations.

I'd think it would fit in a Tele, you could always email them and get the dimensions of the unit.

How can you tell which position is which you ask?
Well depends on what you are using it for, phase reversal would be a very obvious difference on and off, likewise if you were doing some type of series / parallel wiring.

Hey if you are in the "heat of battle" just keep playing , it won't matter where you have the controls!

Jammin'John · May 27th, 2003, 07:02 AM

[quote="inertian"]...actually makes sense, harder to screw up in the heat of battle. Don't know that this particular one would fit though.

Thanks Inertian,... :D ...I want to put one in the tone control position...

...when you have your 3-way selector on the bridge pup....in one position it would be normal.... :) ...in the other position both pups would be in SERIES....

....and in the heat of battle it is VERY EASY to tell the difference.

Lance · May 27th, 2003, 08:47 AM

The "push-push" pot on my Yamaha archtop broke recently and I've been trying to find a source of one.

inertian · May 27th, 2003, 01:08 PM

...if you cant HEAR the difference when you hit the switch/pot/etc, there ain't no need in wiring it up that way!

I once had a push-pull in the tone pot position of a MIJ CAR 62RI with a Strat middle pickup. IIRC, when the pot was pulled, it turned on the middle pickup, independent of switch position. So with a standard 3-way switch, you got:

1) N, pull for N+M
2) N+B, pull for N+M+B
3) B, pull for B+M

My only problem was I kept fumbling when I went to pull the pot out, and then would mess up the tone setting when I smacked it back in. I have enough problems with basic right hand technique, so that guitar didn't stay with me long.

Lance · June 9th, 2003, 07:20 PM

As said above, I ordered the Allparts push-push pot for my archtop with the broken phase splitter switch.

The good news...yes works fine and my guitar is back and working again. Delivery was fast...nice to deal with Allparts.

The bad news - The construction of this switch ain't too hot. It's a mini-size potentiometer which isn't bad but, the housing is aluminum so, I wasn't able to solder a ground connection directly to the pot. Instead, I wrapped a braided bit of wire around the post, soldered it solid and left a tail loop as a grounding location. Second, the terminals are VERY delicate little pins. It's NOTHING like your typical potentiometer where there are nice heavy-duty loops to solder to. Also, the switch contacts to solder to are extremely close to one another so you have to be careful not to short things. When I reinstalled the switch into the archtop (no trivial feat by the way) the wires twisted and the contacts shorted. I had to back everything out again, seperate the wires, and reinstall. Not fun!...working inside a tele wouldn't be anywhere as frustrating.

I was going to replace both of the switches rather than just the one broken one but after completing one pot, forget it! I'll leave the other as a backup.

That said, I really think this switch's application is better suited to using inside a stompbox...where the wires are little and easy to work with.

Jammin'John · June 10th, 2003, 08:55 AM

I am scrappin' the push push idea...

....I have heard from more than one source that the switch is fragile.... :x .....I'm gonna put a 5-way superswitch on :D

May 26th, 2003, 05:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jammin'John Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tug Hill Plateau Posts: 312	Push push pot for tele Is there one that will fit (not push pull) __________________ Tele's and tubes....an accident?......I don't think so... http://www.tughillregion.com/

May 26th, 2003, 07:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
inertian Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lindenhurst, NY Posts: 584	You mean like this one... ...actually makes sense, harder to screw up in the heat of battle. Don't know that this particular one would fit though. http://guitarjones.net/php/freeshop/...id=379&ac_id2=[/url] __________________ "There's very little you can't do with a Dremel if you have the right attachment."

May 26th, 2003, 10:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ringo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 1,911	Push Push Pots Hey Ian! I had that site bookmarked but lost it, thanks! The push push pot looks like a cool thing, I've used the Push Pull pots ( should be called Pull / Push! ) in Strats to add the bridge pu in for extra pu combinations. I'd think it would fit in a Tele, you could always email them and get the dimensions of the unit. How can you tell which position is which you ask? Well depends on what you are using it for, phase reversal would be a very obvious difference on and off, likewise if you were doing some type of series / parallel wiring. Hey if you are in the "heat of battle" just keep playing , it won't matter where you have the controls!

May 27th, 2003, 07:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jammin'John Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tug Hill Plateau Posts: 312	Re: You mean like this one... [quote="inertian"]...actually makes sense, harder to screw up in the heat of battle. Don't know that this particular one would fit though. Thanks Inertian,... :D ...I want to put one in the tone control position... ...when you have your 3-way selector on the bridge pup....in one position it would be normal.... :) ...in the other position both pups would be in SERIES.... ....and in the heat of battle it is VERY EASY to tell the difference. __________________ Tele's and tubes....an accident?......I don't think so... http://www.tughillregion.com/

May 27th, 2003, 08:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lance Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,164	Thanks!!! The "push-push" pot on my Yamaha archtop broke recently and I've been trying to find a source of one. __________________ Lance "not very good...but I make up for it by playing loud"

May 26th, 2003, 07:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
eryque Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: albany, ny [not chicago] Posts: 6,985 44 Photos	What's a push-push pot?

May 26th, 2003, 09:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
eryque Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: albany, ny [not chicago] Posts: 6,985 44 Photos	does that mean you push it once and the switch is in one position, push it again and it's in the other position? how do you tell which is what in the heat of battle?

May 27th, 2003, 01:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
inertian Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lindenhurst, NY Posts: 584	Seems to me... ...if you cant HEAR the difference when you hit the switch/pot/etc, there ain't no need in wiring it up that way! I once had a push-pull in the tone pot position of a MIJ CAR 62RI with a Strat middle pickup. IIRC, when the pot was pulled, it turned on the middle pickup, independent of switch position. So with a standard 3-way switch, you got: 1) N, pull for N+M 2) N+B, pull for N+M+B 3) B, pull for B+M My only problem was I kept fumbling when I went to pull the pot out, and then would mess up the tone setting when I smacked it back in. I have enough problems with basic right hand technique, so that guitar didn't stay with me long. __________________ "There's very little you can't do with a Dremel if you have the right attachment."

June 9th, 2003, 07:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lance Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,164	Installation report! (good news/bad news) As said above, I ordered the Allparts push-push pot for my archtop with the broken phase splitter switch. The good news...yes works fine and my guitar is back and working again. Delivery was fast...nice to deal with Allparts. The bad news - The construction of this switch ain't too hot. It's a mini-size potentiometer which isn't bad but, the housing is aluminum so, I wasn't able to solder a ground connection directly to the pot. Instead, I wrapped a braided bit of wire around the post, soldered it solid and left a tail loop as a grounding location. Second, the terminals are VERY delicate little pins. It's NOTHING like your typical potentiometer where there are nice heavy-duty loops to solder to. Also, the switch contacts to solder to are extremely close to one another so you have to be careful not to short things. When I reinstalled the switch into the archtop (no trivial feat by the way) the wires twisted and the contacts shorted. I had to back everything out again, seperate the wires, and reinstall. Not fun!...working inside a tele wouldn't be anywhere as frustrating. I was going to replace both of the switches rather than just the one broken one but after completing one pot, forget it! I'll leave the other as a backup. That said, I really think this switch's application is better suited to using inside a stompbox...where the wires are little and easy to work with. __________________ Lance "not very good...but I make up for it by playing loud"

June 10th, 2003, 08:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jammin'John Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tug Hill Plateau Posts: 312	Push push pot for tele I am scrappin' the push push idea... ....I have heard from more than one source that the switch is fragile.... :x .....I'm gonna put a 5-way superswitch on :D __________________ Tele's and tubes....an accident?......I don't think so... http://www.tughillregion.com/