Is there ANYTHING people won't buy ??

sjtalon · December 9th, 2009, 11:33 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Custom-Sh...item2c520f5016

Mark Davis · December 9th, 2009, 11:41 PM

With that and the same numbered neck plate you can easily get someone could make a fake CS guitar and sell it for way more than they had invested in the parts to make it.

Fender frowns on people selling the COA's and usually gets Ebay to pull those auctions.

BritishBluesBoy · December 9th, 2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

With that and the same numbered neck plate you can easily get someone could make a fake CS guitar and sell it for way more than they had invested in the parts to make it.

Fender frowns on people selling the COA's and usually gets Ebay to pull those auctions.

+1

LazerMouth · December 9th, 2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sjtalon

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Custom-Sh...item2c520f5016

ReliableFender is evil.

JohnnyCrash · December 9th, 2009, 11:55 PM

$50 turns into a Squier being sold for $1400...

Mark Davis · December 10th, 2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyCrash

$50 turns into a Squier being sold for $1400...

Thats right a Squier with a replaced headstock decal and some parts that make it look like a USA or CS in pics an ad that says no returns and all the seller has to say is he bought it that way and had no idea it was a fake happens every single day.

Thats the reason Im so against people sanding off their headstock decals on Squiers. I hate when someone buys a fake guitar it actually almost makes me sick to my stomach.

Groovey Records · December 10th, 2009, 12:16 AM

So has anyone dropped a dime on this guy??

Wouldn't fender stop dealing with him?

Zillinois · December 10th, 2009, 12:46 AM

Two words. Beanie Babies.

Agave_Blue · December 10th, 2009, 01:32 AM

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.... Comments: Perfectly reliced by Fender! ....

Mr.Reed · December 10th, 2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LazerMouth

ReliableFender is evil.

yep

TeleTim911 · December 10th, 2009, 02:32 AM

LOL! How do you know it's "genuine Fender"?

woodman · December 10th, 2009, 09:22 AM

some people would buy a Pet Rock if it had an "official" Fender logo on it.

Durtdog · December 10th, 2009, 09:37 AM

Guys who buy stuff like that insist that, "the guitar just didn't look right without it...and I'd never sell it and pass it off as a real Fender, and it's my guitar I can do whatever I like anyway."

PrivateIron · December 10th, 2009, 09:49 AM

Just an odd thought - how would one tell if the certificates of authenticity are authentic?

If someone was really determined could they just knock one up in their shed (or on their PC)? Maximising profits and all that..

Apologies if this is a foolish questions, I don't know much about all the gubbinz that come with 'authentic fenders'

tboy · December 10th, 2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PrivateIron

Just an odd thought - how would one tell if the certificates of authenticity are authentic?

If someone was really determined could they just knock one up in their shed (or on their PC)? Maximising profits and all that..

Apologies if this is a foolish questions, I don't know much about all the gubbinz that come with 'authentic fenders'

Next, he'll be offering to customize the serial number for the buyer.

openbar · December 10th, 2009, 10:27 AM

Why is he "evil"? I wish I'd thought of parting out Mexican Fenders on ebay, the guy seems to make a lot of dough doing just that. It amazes me what people will pay for some of that stuff.

Big John · December 10th, 2009, 10:47 AM

"Is there ANYTHING people won't buy ??"

Yeah, usually anything I might have for sale !!

tiktok · December 10th, 2009, 10:58 AM

Two more words: baseball cards.

Zmatko · December 10th, 2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by openbar

Why is he "evil"? I wish I'd thought of parting out Mexican Fenders on ebay, the guy seems to make a lot of dough doing just that. It amazes me what people will pay for some of that stuff.

I guess it's the "just to make money of it" that hurts the most, i mean even mexican strats have some meaning to them, just how they came from the factory.
But it shows how far buyers can go, just to justify their "partscaster" being more Fenderish by slapping a mim neck on it.

tiktok · December 10th, 2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zmatko

ut it shows how far buyers can go, just to justify their "partscaster" being more Fenderish by slapping a mim neck on it.

Well, I mean, a Fender neck does make it significantly more Fenderish. If you mean make it more legitimate, well that is sort of silly.

LazerMouth · December 10th, 2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by openbar

Why is he "evil"? I wish I'd thought of parting out Mexican Fenders on ebay, the guy seems to make a lot of dough doing just that. It amazes me what people will pay for some of that stuff.

You ever notice how somehow ReliableFenders parts are worth more than others?

I suspect there's some dodgy bidding going on.

I can't believe the money people spend, often buying second hand parts for more than new ones.

I'm trying to buy a older American standard bridge for my 08 Standard, to run a hipshot bender. Everytime he has one they sell for like $45 -$50, you can buy a new one for that!

Zmatko · December 10th, 2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Well, I mean, a Fender neck does make it significantly more Fenderish. If you mean make it more legitimate, well that is sort of silly.

I'm sorry, but the assumption to more legitimate instrument will always be there for those who will see it.

Mik · December 10th, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by woodman

some people would buy a Pet Rock if it had an "official" Fender logo on it.

I wouldn't touch a Pet Rock with a Fender logo on it.

That would not even be transitional (or authentic) that would be fraudulent.

I would want a Pet Rock cert. Didn't the original Pet Rock have a pet license or cert?

Selling a COA without the corresponding guitar is just WRONG.

theGecko71 · December 10th, 2009, 01:05 PM

I'm surprised reliablefender is selling a COA. My guess is that he's actually starting to hurt for money because of the recession (I'm on his e-mail list and he lists sales just about every week these days trying to drum up business). But I can't see why anyone would buy this for "legitimate" reasons, so he ought not to sell it. Wouldn't this open him up to a lawsuit from Fender?

I built my Esquire all from Fender parts, much of which (body, neck, pickguard, pickup, and hardware) I acquired from reliablefender at really good prices--and the guitar is great! I'd only complain about the neck being overpriced. Just couldn't get one for a good bid for some reason. I'd like to get a "real" Esquire neck, but they are fantastically overpriced.

Curiously, I didn't like the neck (standard MIM tele neck) once I received it, so I put it on my old Squier and used the Squier neck on my Esquire. Then, I must admit, I sanded off the Squier logo--the guitar isn't a Squier anymore is it, really (ok, I'm a bit of a snob)? But I did leave the Squier serial number on the back, just in case anyone ever inquired about the guitar.

I can't call my guitar a Fender since it isn't an actual Fender production guitar, but on the other hand it's almost all Fender parts. I guess it's a FrankenFender (or a Fenderstein?).

tuuur · December 10th, 2009, 01:25 PM

I'm surprised as well. This is an auction on the shady side, and being the bigger seller he is, he might draw attention from Fender execs that smaller fishes wouldn't get.
Not a smart thing to do.

redstringuitar · December 10th, 2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

With that and the same numbered neck plate you can easily get someone could make a fake CS guitar and sell it for way more than they had invested in the parts to make it.

Fender frowns on people selling the COA's and usually gets Ebay to pull those auctions.

That's the first thought that popped into my head..."break out the router, Hueng, lets get to work."

jwl325 · December 10th, 2009, 01:39 PM

Be interesting to see if that SN w/ COA pops up on a used sale in a couple months.

A.B.Negative · December 10th, 2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John

"Is there ANYTHING people won't buy ??"

Yeah, usually anything I might have for sale !!

Or anything I list on Ebay!

tcarp · December 10th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Wow....that's shaky.

I can justify applying a Fender decal on an Fender licensed neck for a partscaster...it looks right, and if I ever sold the guitar or just the neck, I wouldn't even consider not revealing the fact that it's not an actual Fender neck.

But I can think of no reason or rationale for owning a COA that didn't come with it's corresponding and appropriate guitar.

Yeah, I know it's a fine distinction that I'm making, but a stand alone COA doesn't just push the envelope, it shreds it.

Tom

December 9th, 2009, 11:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
sjtalon Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan Age: 51 Posts: 1,840 9 Photos	Is there ANYTHING people won't buy ?? http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Custom-Sh...item2c520f5016

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Mark Davis Telefied Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 59 Posts: 21,685	With that and the same numbered neck plate you can easily get someone could make a fake CS guitar and sell it for way more than they had invested in the parts to make it. Fender frowns on people selling the COA's and usually gets Ebay to pull those auctions. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

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JohnnyCrash Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 9,644	$50 turns into a Squier being sold for $1400... __________________ - 3 Gibsons, 5 Teles, assorted other guitars, about a dozen amps, about two dozen pedals, and a Smith & Wesson SW40VE = too many toys, no money, carpal tunnel, and a serious hearing problem.

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Groovey Records Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Desolation Row Posts: 2,389	So has anyone dropped a dime on this guy?? Wouldn't fender stop dealing with him?

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TeleTim911 Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Calera, Alabama Age: 57 Posts: 467	LOL! How do you know it's "genuine Fender"?

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Durtdog Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 4,862	Guys who buy stuff like that insist that, "the guitar just didn't look right without it...and I'd never sell it and pass it off as a real Fender, and it's my guitar I can do whatever I like anyway."

December 10th, 2009, 09:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
PrivateIron TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scotland Age: 20 Posts: 45	Just an odd thought - how would one tell if the certificates of authenticity are authentic? If someone was really determined could they just knock one up in their shed (or on their PC)? Maximising profits and all that.. Apologies if this is a foolish questions, I don't know much about all the gubbinz that come with 'authentic fenders'

December 10th, 2009, 10:27 AM	#16 (permalink)
openbar Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 670	Why is he "evil"? I wish I'd thought of parting out Mexican Fenders on ebay, the guy seems to make a lot of dough doing just that. It amazes me what people will pay for some of that stuff.

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theGecko71 Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York City and (now) Dayton, OH Age: 39 Posts: 122	I'm surprised reliablefender is selling a COA. My guess is that he's actually starting to hurt for money because of the recession (I'm on his e-mail list and he lists sales just about every week these days trying to drum up business). But I can't see why anyone would buy this for "legitimate" reasons, so he ought not to sell it. Wouldn't this open him up to a lawsuit from Fender? I built my Esquire all from Fender parts, much of which (body, neck, pickguard, pickup, and hardware) I acquired from reliablefender at really good prices--and the guitar is great! I'd only complain about the neck being overpriced. Just couldn't get one for a good bid for some reason. I'd like to get a "real" Esquire neck, but they are fantastically overpriced. Curiously, I didn't like the neck (standard MIM tele neck) once I received it, so I put it on my old Squier and used the Squier neck on my Esquire. Then, I must admit, I sanded off the Squier logo--the guitar isn't a Squier anymore is it, really (ok, I'm a bit of a snob)? But I did leave the Squier serial number on the back, just in case anyone ever inquired about the guitar. I can't call my guitar a Fender since it isn't an actual Fender production guitar, but on the other hand it's almost all Fender parts. I guess it's a FrankenFender (or a Fenderstein?).

December 10th, 2009, 01:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
tuuur Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: the Netherlands Age: 41 Posts: 2,468 7 Photos	I'm surprised as well. This is an auction on the shady side, and being the bigger seller he is, he might draw attention from Fender execs that smaller fishes wouldn't get. Not a smart thing to do. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/tuuur

December 10th, 2009, 01:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
jwl325 Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 313	Be interesting to see if that SN w/ COA pops up on a used sale in a couple months.

December 10th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#29 (permalink)
tcarp Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rockaway nj Age: 57 Posts: 509	Wow....that's shaky. I can justify applying a Fender decal on an Fender licensed neck for a partscaster...it looks right, and if I ever sold the guitar or just the neck, I wouldn't even consider not revealing the fact that it's not an actual Fender neck. But I can think of no reason or rationale for owning a COA that didn't come with it's corresponding and appropriate guitar. Yeah, I know it's a fine distinction that I'm making, but a stand alone COA doesn't just push the envelope, it shreds it. Tom

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