Telecaster - no serial number - what is it?

jd1655 · December 5th, 2009, 09:38 AM

A guy is selling a Telecaster. He claims to have no idea about the origins of this guitar.

On the headstock, it say 'Fender' only - it does not have the more traditional 'Telecaster' script or the 'made in X-country' . The only other script is the usual 'original Contour Body - patent pending' mark near the top of the headstock.

Back of the headstock is blank

Main body of guitar has not serials or other script

I am trying to figure out where this guitar comes from. Was there a period where Telecasters were produced in this fashion?

Anyone have any ideas??

Cheer

JD

mellecaster · December 5th, 2009, 09:44 AM

Major Red Flag on the Original Contoured Body...Teles don't use that.

KevinB · December 5th, 2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1655

... The only other script is the usual 'original Contour Body - patent pending' mark near the top of the headstock.

I've never seen that on a Tele; only on a Strat

jd1655 · December 5th, 2009, 09:46 AM

Thanks for the response.

Should have posted this link in first place...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Fender-Telecaster...item45ef9639d6

Jimmyspaz · December 5th, 2009, 09:49 AM

RED FLAG!!! Aftermarket (i.e. fake) Strat decal!! Not a "proper" Tele neck IMHO! May be a scam here!

jd1655 · December 5th, 2009, 09:51 AM

Ha. I was thinking this maybe the case, but wasn't ready to float accusations...

Once again the Tele forum comes through!

Thanks for the education

KevinB · December 5th, 2009, 09:54 AM

I think it's just all wrong. Apart from the headstock decal, I've never seen tuners like that on a Tele and I've never seen the 12th fret dot markers so widely spaced!

My guess is that's it's a (poor) Chinese copy. I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole!

Telegator · December 5th, 2009, 09:57 AM

Did Fender, or any licensed by Fender after market parts makers, ever make a neck with the position markers spread as far apart as the ones on the 12th fret of this neck. I have poor eyesight but from what I can see they look like they are completely on the edge of the neck.

mellecaster · December 5th, 2009, 10:09 AM

He's dancing around a lot in the Description...but it is definitely not a Fender.

Tonemonkey · December 5th, 2009, 10:20 AM

as we're looking at comedy listings; what about this one!:

Squier 51 Tele?! http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squier-51...%3D5%26ps%3D63

Is it some sort of genuine evil Hybrid, they call a "51" Tele?

KevinB · December 5th, 2009, 10:28 AM

Who was the fool who took that bid from $75 up to $140?

ADK Teleman · December 5th, 2009, 10:53 AM

I just sent it to the Fender legal department!! This is why I get so ticked off at the modding...it IMO is part of the reason our guitars get expensive....sorry fellas just venting!

Ronkirn · December 5th, 2009, 10:59 AM

What we got here is "Failyah to Communicate" . . .the truth... the "Fender" decal on the headstock is too small... ain't no reason to go any further,

Ron Kirn

Tonemonkey · December 5th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADK Teleman

I just sent it to the Fender legal department!! This is why I get so ticked off at the modding...it IMO is part of the reason our guitars get expensive....sorry fellas just venting!

Maybe I'm being obtuse.....

modding.....? Get expensive?
Sorry, what's the relationship?

Mark Davis · December 5th, 2009, 02:03 PM

That same one was talked anbout a few weeks ago here it was on CL then I think.

timmer · December 5th, 2009, 03:15 PM

The Fender logo looks like a tatoo.

Fatmanstratman · December 6th, 2009, 02:35 PM

I did make contact with the seller - he seemed genuine enough - just didn't know what he had, and had been unable to find any info from the forums he had approached.

I told him WHY it wasn't a Fender, pointed out what was wrong, and suggested that he changed his listing to a lower price, but as usual, ONE sucker bid right at the death and bid the full asking price ($320 Canadian).

Someone's going to be VERY angry when that sucker arrives, but hey - that's eBay for you....

There's one born every minute...

Tonemonkey · December 6th, 2009, 02:43 PM

I reported it to ebay on Friday, as a potentially fraudulent listing, explaining why. If they give a toss

, they might stop the payment.

I note that his listing has removed any mention of Fender.

newmachine · December 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonemonkey

as we're looking at comedy listings; what about this one!:

Squier 51 Tele?! http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squier-51...%3D5%26ps%3D63

Is it some sort of genuine evil Hybrid, they call a "51" Tele?

It's one of Squier's original design.... I believe it's called as "Squier 51" without "Tele"

getbent · December 6th, 2009, 03:03 PM

partscaster.

320.00 final bid. probably good for both parties... not a fender.

the squier? wrong terms... and those got blown out for 99.00... but they have been creeping up in price for awhile....

December 5th, 2009, 09:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
jd1655 TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 20	Telecaster - no serial number - what is it? A guy is selling a Telecaster. He claims to have no idea about the origins of this guitar. On the headstock, it say 'Fender' only - it does not have the more traditional 'Telecaster' script or the 'made in X-country' . The only other script is the usual 'original Contour Body - patent pending' mark near the top of the headstock. Back of the headstock is blank Main body of guitar has not serials or other script I am trying to figure out where this guitar comes from. Was there a period where Telecasters were produced in this fashion? Anyone have any ideas?? Cheer JD

December 5th, 2009, 09:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
mellecaster VENDOR Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 9,489 17 Photos	Major Red Flag on the Original Contoured Body...Teles don't use that. __________________ Expert Repair....ReCrafting...and Set-ups Making your World a Better Place...One Guitar at a time Contact Info

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mellecaster VENDOR Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 9,489 17 Photos	He's dancing around a lot in the Description...but it is definitely not a Fender. __________________ Expert Repair....ReCrafting...and Set-ups Making your World a Better Place...One Guitar at a time Contact Info

December 5th, 2009, 10:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
Tonemonkey Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gibraltar !! Age: 43 Posts: 1,846	as we're looking at comedy listings; what about this one!: Squier 51 Tele?! http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squier-51...%3D5%26ps%3D63 Is it some sort of genuine evil Hybrid, they call a "51" Tele? __________________ The Roadworn is the MILF of the Telecaster series! Not that I own one; but I've tried a few out!

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December 5th, 2009, 09:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
jd1655 TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 20	Thanks for the response. Should have posted this link in first place... http://cgi.ebay.ca/Fender-Telecaster...item45ef9639d6

December 5th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
jd1655 TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 20	Ha. I was thinking this maybe the case, but wasn't ready to float accusations... Once again the Tele forum comes through! Thanks for the education

December 5th, 2009, 09:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
KevinB Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Age: 59 Posts: 3,367 4 Photos	I think it's just all wrong. Apart from the headstock decal, I've never seen tuners like that on a Tele and I've never seen the 12th fret dot markers so widely spaced! My guess is that's it's a (poor) Chinese copy. I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole!

December 5th, 2009, 09:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
Telegator Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisiana Age: 49 Posts: 185	Did Fender, or any licensed by Fender after market parts makers, ever make a neck with the position markers spread as far apart as the ones on the 12th fret of this neck. I have poor eyesight but from what I can see they look like they are completely on the edge of the neck.

December 5th, 2009, 10:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
KevinB Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Age: 59 Posts: 3,367 4 Photos	Who was the fool who took that bid from $75 up to $140?

December 5th, 2009, 10:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
ADK Teleman Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: FT Benning GA Age: 45 Posts: 782	I just sent it to the Fender legal department!! This is why I get so ticked off at the modding...it IMO is part of the reason our guitars get expensive....sorry fellas just venting!

December 5th, 2009, 10:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ronkirn VENDOR Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 63 Posts: 4,663	What we got here is "Failyah to Communicate" . . .the truth... the "Fender" decal on the headstock is too small... ain't no reason to go any further, Ron Kirn __________________ When injustice becomes law, Resistance becomes duty. . . . Thomas Jefferson "Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton www.ronkirn.com

December 5th, 2009, 02:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mark Davis Telefied Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 59 Posts: 21,685	That same one was talked anbout a few weeks ago here it was on CL then I think. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

December 5th, 2009, 03:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
timmer Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: On the banks of the Pontchartrain Age: 49 Posts: 1,606 26 Photos	The Fender logo looks like a tatoo. __________________ --------------------------- The Beatles got me interested in music. Pete Townshend got me interested in guitar.

December 6th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
Fatmanstratman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fatmanville, Cambs., UK Posts: 5,432	I did make contact with the seller - he seemed genuine enough - just didn't know what he had, and had been unable to find any info from the forums he had approached. I told him WHY it wasn't a Fender, pointed out what was wrong, and suggested that he changed his listing to a lower price, but as usual, ONE sucker bid right at the death and bid the full asking price ($320 Canadian). Someone's going to be VERY angry when that sucker arrives, but hey - that's eBay for you.... There's one born every minute... __________________ . . . "The man who questions opinions is wise. The man who quarrels with facts is a fool." (Frank Garbutt, inventor & industrialist)

December 6th, 2009, 02:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
Tonemonkey Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gibraltar !! Age: 43 Posts: 1,846	I reported it to ebay on Friday, as a potentially fraudulent listing, explaining why. If they give a toss , they might stop the payment. I note that his listing has removed any mention of Fender. __________________ The Roadworn is the MILF of the Telecaster series! Not that I own one; but I've tried a few out! Last edited by Tonemonkey; December 6th, 2009 at 03:16 PM..

December 6th, 2009, 03:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
getbent Moderator Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Posts: 16,055 37 Photos	partscaster. 320.00 final bid. probably good for both parties... not a fender. the squier? wrong terms... and those got blown out for 99.00... but they have been creeping up in price for awhile....

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