Just putting it out there... double-cut Tele?

DrAndy · November 15th, 2009, 09:25 AM

Guys,
at the risk of upsetting some of the more traditional members here I was just thinking about body shapes and how the enduring ones are 50+ years old...

Now don't get me wrong

; but what do people think about a double-cut Tele?

Has anyone tried to do this before? (and please no-one say 'duuuh yeah, it's called a Strat!')
I think it'd be pretty fresh!

J.T.S · November 15th, 2009, 09:28 AM

I have seen some, at this forum, I like them...

ReVintage · November 15th, 2009, 09:46 AM

backalleyblues · November 15th, 2009, 10:18 AM

Bill Wharton (aka The Sauce Boss) plays a '53 that had been hacked that way (it was that way when he got it, apparently)... wicked guitar...

Franc Robert

TC6969 · November 15th, 2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backalleyblues

Bill Wharton (aka The Sauce Boss) plays a '53 that had been hacked that way (it was that way when he got it, apparently)... wicked guitar...

Franc Robert

He swears its not hacked and was probably done by Leo himself way back when.

DrAndy · November 15th, 2009, 10:30 AM

that's cool.
I'm a little surprised the idea never caught on and Fender haven't been flogging them yet... Anyone got any more pics that they've seen?
Andyxx

telewhat · November 15th, 2009, 10:38 AM

Here's a "Double cut", I owned and sold and now regret it.

mijstrat72 · November 15th, 2009, 10:49 AM

I would love to build one of these, I think I'll have to experiment to try and achieve that shape.

Cam · November 15th, 2009, 12:43 PM

How about double cut with the original Leo snake head. Symmetry and all that eh!

scantron81 · November 15th, 2009, 12:53 PM

You can find them on Ebay. Fender made them for 2 years or so in '05 and '06 i think.

ADK Teleman · November 15th, 2009, 12:59 PM

JMO...then it is a Strat...but if it makes you happy. I like mine just how it is...why mess with perfection

newtwanger · November 15th, 2009, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam

How about double cut with the original Leo snake head. Symmetry and all that eh!

Brilliant idea! Oh, wait... I did that...found it ugly...(photo is of incomplete build)

tiktok · November 15th, 2009, 01:28 PM

Yeah, I find them really ugly.

How about a single-cutaway Strat? I remember seeing a no-cutaway Les Paul Custom that some jazz guy kept strung with .013's as the "sit-in" guitar at his gigs, the encourage people to leave the stage quickly.

boris bubbanov · November 15th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReVintage

This is an extraordinarily nicely done guitar, which I like very much.

Newtwanger's Proto is actually neater that 95% of the double cuts out there. But, the double cut is IMO not to be recommended because unless you are very gifted as these 2 guys are, your net result is gonna be, uh.

Let me just say there are other shapes I like better.

IMO, YMMV, all those warningisms we use.

Post Toastie · November 15th, 2009, 05:09 PM

The Squier 51 is as close as i need to get with that type of design.

Notalent · November 15th, 2009, 05:25 PM

Why can't people leave these things alone...why not put some antlers on it?

Mike Bruce · November 15th, 2009, 05:34 PM

In my opinion the concept and the look trumps so many of those other ill-conceived butt-ugly things that appear on the guitar market at regular intervals. Sure Fender isn't in the league of Gibson when it comes to that, but something like a doublecut Tele isn't very far out, and would be light(er) than a standard issue Tele.

Peace, Mike.

dijos · November 16th, 2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

Yeah, I find them really ugly.

How about a single-cutaway Strat? I remember seeing a no-cutaway Les Paul Custom that some jazz guy kept strung with .013's as the "sit-in" guitar at his gigs, the encourage people to leave the stage quickly.

for an acoustic player, that's no big deal...

ReVintage · November 16th, 2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

This is an extraordinarily nicely done guitar, which I like very much.

Thank you very much! Glad you're liking it.

scantron81 · November 16th, 2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Bruce

but something like a doublecut Tele isn't very far out, and would be light(er) than a standard issue Tele.

Peace, Mike.

I think that was part of the idea with the double cut Tele Fender manufactured in the mid 2000's. It was a semi hollow body with the f hole along the upper part of the body. It had t p90's. My friend bought one and was quite pleased with it.

LeroyBlues · November 16th, 2009, 12:57 PM

A few months ago I entertained the idea of making something like this. I found the single cut version on the net, ( most likely on this site ) and then photoshoped it a bit. Sort of a Tele-335. I may still try it down the road.

oops, I guess I've forgotten how to post pics on here. brb.

1962guitargeek · November 16th, 2009, 03:09 PM

Here's an epiphone version....

DrAndy · November 16th, 2009, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADK Teleman

JMO...then it is a Strat...but if it makes you happy. I like mine just how it is...why mess with perfection

Nah nah nah a Strat's got 3 pickups and a Trem, and perfection is subjective hence my caveat at the beginning of the thread...

I genuinely never saw a DC Tele before. I really like newtwanger's proto, and ReVintage your guitar's executed with some panache too.
Not sure I like the maroon thing from Fenner tho!

guitar1amp2000 · November 16th, 2009, 10:43 PM

Here's the one I'm working on

Dave Hopping · November 16th, 2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

Yeah, I find them really ugly.

How about a single-cutaway Strat? I remember seeing a no-cutaway Les Paul Custom that some jazz guy kept strung with .013's as the "sit-in" guitar at his gigs, the encourage people to leave the stage quickly.

I'd REALLY like to see that no-cut LP Custom.

Wild Rice Chris · November 16th, 2009, 11:27 PM

Winter of '97-98, built in my dad's basement out of my grandmother's cabinet.

I'm building a pair for a guy in Maryland.

ReVintage · November 17th, 2009, 01:16 PM

That's a nice one Chris, DC's are cool.

BigDaddyLH · November 17th, 2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Rice Chris

I dig the port holes. But could you even call this Tele-esque? Twin humbuckers and a T-O-M bridge?

dsc1 · November 17th, 2009, 01:35 PM

I like them, especially for an otherwise non-traditional Telecaster style guitar. I am planning to build one with Lawrence/Wilde L500s and a USACG neck. I have most of the parts, so it is just a matter of getting to it.
Going to paint it Ford Black Jade ('69 color), sort of a tribute to my first car. Will be my first attempt at routing a neck pocket, and binding. I have plenty of wood so if I mess it up, I can always start over.
Usually I don't go for the double bound, shiny paint look, but for some reason it seems right for this one.

Wild Rice Chris · November 17th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLH

I dig the port holes. But could you even call this Tele-esque? Twin humbuckers and a T-O-M bridge?

The shape was traced off of a 70's MIJ tele knockoff. It started off with a single neck humbucker and a fretless neck, went to a shortscale fretted neck with a Jazzmaster pickup in the bridge, and finally with two humbuckers and the current neck.

Tha vast majority of guitars pictured in this thread do not have tele pickups and bridges.

Nighthawk · November 17th, 2009, 03:16 PM

I thought I would hate this idea in the flesh/wood but NO... I like the pictures I've seen here, very much. Very much indeed.

scantron81 · November 17th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Squier put out a line 2 or 3 years ago with some silly finishes/wiring called something like the "Hard player," or "musician series." It was a double cutaway that looked like tele specs with a symetrical headstock. It looked like a cross between a double cutaway tele and the ibanez artist series.

northarrow · November 24th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Im a big fan of double cuts.

northarrow · November 24th, 2009, 10:50 AM

repeatofender · November 24th, 2009, 11:51 AM

I dunno...
messing with the Tele is like messing with the Mustang; the Mustang II was not worth a scrap.
There are PLENTY of double cutaways out there, why change the Tele into just another one?
Call me old-fashioned.

nvilletele · November 24th, 2009, 11:59 AM

I guess the red one above, with the f hole and P90s, looks OK, but overall I just can't get into the double cut look much either . . . .

BigDaddyLH · November 24th, 2009, 12:33 PM

I'm digging the double cut Teles. Does any of the custom parts makers, USACG, Warmoth, sell these bodies?

soultosoul13 · November 24th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

Yeah, I find them really ugly.

How about a single-cutaway Strat? I remember seeing a no-cutaway Les Paul Custom that some jazz guy kept strung with .013's as the "sit-in" guitar at his gigs, the encourage people to leave the stage quickly.

damn thats a good idea!! the sit in guitar, not the strat

SixShooter · November 26th, 2009, 12:08 AM

I have always wondered if the neck-to-body connection on a double cutaway with bolt on neck is inferior to that on a single cutaway design such as the Tele.

DrAndy · November 28th, 2009, 02:36 PM

Yeah I've wondered about that myself as the neck on my strat has occasionally wondered from the straight-and-narrow!
Easily rectified though.
I reckon if you go down the threaded insert route the neck wouldn't budge though.

As for the doublecut neck/body connection I reckon it'd be fine so long as it screwed in tight enough.
'They' do say decent bolt-on necks are actually tonally superior to set necks don't they? Because the layer of glue between body and neck has a slight dampening effect..?

November 15th, 2009, 09:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
DrAndy TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Leeds - UK Age: 24 Posts: 50	Just putting it out there... double-cut Tele? Guys, at the risk of upsetting some of the more traditional members here I was just thinking about body shapes and how the enduring ones are 50+ years old... Now don't get me wrong ; but what do people think about a double-cut Tele? Has anyone tried to do this before? (and please no-one say 'duuuh yeah, it's called a Strat!') I think it'd be pretty fresh!

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mijstrat72 Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mqt. Posts: 475	I would love to build one of these, I think I'll have to experiment to try and achieve that shape. __________________ "I've always considered myself a hobbyist"

November 15th, 2009, 12:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cam Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 1,423 22 Photos	How about double cut with the original Leo snake head. Symmetry and all that eh! __________________ Relic Schmelic! Play the darn thing! Wipe it down after and put it in it's case!

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scantron81 Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 228	You can find them on Ebay. Fender made them for 2 years or so in '05 and '06 i think. __________________ It aint rock 'n roll if you know what your doing.

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ADK Teleman Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FT Benning GA Age: 45 Posts: 539	JMO...then it is a Strat...but if it makes you happy. I like mine just how it is...why mess with perfection Last edited by ADK Teleman; November 15th, 2009 at 09:18 PM.. Reason: typo

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J.T.S TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 61	I have seen some, at this forum, I like them...

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DrAndy TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Leeds - UK Age: 24 Posts: 50	that's cool. I'm a little surprised the idea never caught on and Fender haven't been flogging them yet... Anyone got any more pics that they've seen? Andyxx

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tiktok Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,712	Yeah, I find them really ugly. How about a single-cutaway Strat? I remember seeing a no-cutaway Les Paul Custom that some jazz guy kept strung with .013's as the "sit-in" guitar at his gigs, the encourage people to leave the stage quickly. __________________ "I like a tune. I like a tune and a singer and a solo, and now more of the tune."--Ian McLagan http://www.myspace.com/travishartnett Pearce Amps Info Page

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Post Toastie Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: fullerton,ca Age: 55 Posts: 2,287	The Squier 51 is as close as i need to get with that type of design. __________________ I don't need no I.D.,I know who I am,I'm Tommy Bolin!

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Notalent Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 176	Why can't people leave these things alone...why not put some antlers on it?

November 15th, 2009, 05:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mike Bruce Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,080	In my opinion the concept and the look trumps so many of those other ill-conceived butt-ugly things that appear on the guitar market at regular intervals. Sure Fender isn't in the league of Gibson when it comes to that, but something like a doublecut Tele isn't very far out, and would be light(er) than a standard issue Tele. Peace, Mike.

November 16th, 2009, 12:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
LeroyBlues Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 161 14 Photos	A few months ago I entertained the idea of making something like this. I found the single cut version on the net, ( most likely on this site ) and then photoshoped it a bit. Sort of a Tele-335. I may still try it down the road. oops, I guess I've forgotten how to post pics on here. brb. __________________ Directions? What directions. No one told me there were directions.

November 16th, 2009, 03:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
1962guitargeek Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: eastern n.c. Age: 47 Posts: 1,068	Here's an epiphone version....

November 16th, 2009, 11:27 PM	#26 (permalink)
Wild Rice Chris Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rice Custom Dungeon Posts: 3,223 27 Photos	Winter of '97-98, built in my dad's basement out of my grandmother's cabinet. I'm building a pair for a guy in Maryland. __________________ "The children need to learn how to build their own environment and make their own music that is inspired by their roots."--Eugene Hütz "All music turns out to be ethnic music."--Steve Reich

November 17th, 2009, 01:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
ReVintage Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 154	That's a nice one Chris, DC's are cool.

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dsc1 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pocahontas, MS Age: 31 Posts: 9	I like them, especially for an otherwise non-traditional Telecaster style guitar. I am planning to build one with Lawrence/Wilde L500s and a USACG neck. I have most of the parts, so it is just a matter of getting to it. Going to paint it Ford Black Jade ('69 color), sort of a tribute to my first car. Will be my first attempt at routing a neck pocket, and binding. I have plenty of wood so if I mess it up, I can always start over. Usually I don't go for the double bound, shiny paint look, but for some reason it seems right for this one.

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Nighthawk Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 61 Posts: 2,342	I thought I would hate this idea in the flesh/wood but NO... I like the pictures I've seen here, very much. Very much indeed. __________________ "History are the lies we tell ourselves in order to make sense of the present"

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scantron81 Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 228	Squier put out a line 2 or 3 years ago with some silly finishes/wiring called something like the "Hard player," or "musician series." It was a double cutaway that looked like tele specs with a symetrical headstock. It looked like a cross between a double cutaway tele and the ibanez artist series. __________________ It aint rock 'n roll if you know what your doing.

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northarrow NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 8	Im a big fan of double cuts.

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repeatofender Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carrollton, TX Age: 49 Posts: 212	I dunno... messing with the Tele is like messing with the Mustang; the Mustang II was not worth a scrap. There are PLENTY of double cutaways out there, why change the Tele into just another one? Call me old-fashioned. Last edited by repeatofender; November 24th, 2009 at 11:54 AM.. Reason: add a thought

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nvilletele Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Age: 52 Posts: 838	I guess the red one above, with the f hole and P90s, looks OK, but overall I just can't get into the double cut look much either . . . .

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SixShooter Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cincinnati Age: 43 Posts: 296 2 Photos	I have always wondered if the neck-to-body connection on a double cutaway with bolt on neck is inferior to that on a single cutaway design such as the Tele.

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DrAndy TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Leeds - UK Age: 24 Posts: 50	Yeah I've wondered about that myself as the neck on my strat has occasionally wondered from the straight-and-narrow! Easily rectified though. I reckon if you go down the threaded insert route the neck wouldn't budge though. As for the doublecut neck/body connection I reckon it'd be fine so long as it screwed in tight enough. 'They' do say decent bolt-on necks are actually tonally superior to set necks don't they? Because the layer of glue between body and neck has a slight dampening effect..?

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