Fernandes Telecaster

[reesereesereese]

Hi,

this is my first thread in this board. I'm from germany - so please excuse my bad english! :)

I would like to find out some information about this Fernandes Telecaster:

EDIT: Pictures are in my post below

I could buy the guitar for 400€ ...is the price ok?
It has Tokai Pick ups ...are they better or worse then the original PU's?

The seller does not know what model it is or how old the guitar is...but he say it's a really great guitar.

What do you mean?

I really like the look of this guitar and would like to buy it if the price is ok.


Markus

[Jimmyspaz]

Warning!!!! Do not click these links!! I did and had to reboot my computer! German spam alert!

[reesereesereese]

I don't know what happened to your computer...but there is definitly no virus or whatever

Anyway the pictures are now uploaded directly to the board.


Markus

[Fatmanstratman]

Originally Posted by Jimmyspaz

Warning!!!! Do not click these links!! I did and had to reboot my computer! German spam alert!

Yep - me too.

After being hit by several pop-ups which brought my PC to a grinding halt, I had decided against responding to this poster.

However, he IS a new member, so it would be rude not to say "Welcomewelcomewelcome tototo thethethe TDPRITDPRITDPRI, reesereesereese"!

* I have to ask - were you ignored a lot as a child, or are you slightly hard of hearing, causing your parents to shout out your name THREE times? *...

Just kidding - enjoy your time here - hope you read a lot, learn a lot and contribute often!...

As far as the Fernandes goes, I understand they were quite a sought-after brand of Fender "copycat" guitars at one time. I believe they were a bit close to the mark so Fender had them stop making look-alikes. They still trade today, but with a more modern (read "wierd") approach to their designs....

[Fatmanstratman]

These pics are of - supposedly - a 1975 Fernandes FTE-50W (???), which is - allegedly - worth around $500 US.





Looking at the last 2 pics, it is not hard to see why Fender might have been a little annoyed at the possibilities of breach of copyright!

400 Euros sounds a lot to me for a not-all-that-well-known Fender "knock-off" - especially if it is not all original. But that's just me - it's YOUR money - if you like the guitar and you've got money to burn, why not just go and buy it?

[Alamo]

Another triple welcome to the TDPRI

looks like a nice guitar to me, but I wouldn't exacly call it a bargain.
if it feels and sounds good, I guess it's ok to get it.

don't know anything about Fernandes though.
sorry, not much help there.

as for the picture host - I despise those that work with pop-ups. I clearly prefer photobucket, but a simple pop-up doesn't crash my browser or PC.
whats wrong with your pc's?

[reesereesereese]

Thank you!

What do you think about Diego Telecasters in comparison to the Fernandes? Unfortunately there is no store close-by to check both guitars directly : /

[fordfanjpn]

All the Fernandes guitars I have owned have been really well made. However, like a lot of Japanese guitars, they tended to have rather thin necks. I would suggest playing any guitars you are thinking of buying before spending your money on them. And welcome to the forum.

Bill

[Fatmanstratman]

Originally Posted by reesereesereese

What do you think about Diego Telecasters in comparison to the Fernandes? Unfortunately there is no store close-by to check both guitars directly

Hah hah!...

So, reese x3, what is it with you and these obscure "no name" odd-ball pawn shop guitars?...

I've never even HEARD of a "Diego" Telecaster, and certainly don't know anyone who has ever owned one either....

Can I just ask - do you have something AGAINST Fender (or Squier) instruments? There are lots of well known and respected brands owned by the members here, ranging from ultra expensive to dirt cheap; why not take a little time to read through some of the threads and see if you spot a brand you might like? Then we can help you!....

Here's a thought - you're in Germany, right? Why not check out the Musikhaus Thomann cyberstore (click for link), and enter the word Tele in the "Quick Search" box at the top of the page?

Sorry I can't be of any more help, but if it is an obscure brand you are looking for, Google is your friend......

[Weazel]

@fatmanstratman: Maybe he's talking about the Duesenberg Diego?

[Fatmanstratman]

Originally Posted by Weazel

Maybe he's talking about the Duesenberg Diego?

Say what?....

I love those Duesenberg guitars - when I win the Lottery I'm treating myself to a D-Caster and a 49er.....

But a "Diego"? You got me there.

Unless there's a joke in there somewhere that I've missed, of course! Sorry if that's the case....

[Weazel]

No joke, Duesenberg makes both a strat and a tele, under the name Diego.

[tonfarbe]

Originally Posted by Fatmanstratman

Say what?....

I love those Duesenberg guitars - when I win the Lottery I'm treating myself to a D-Caster and a 49er.....

But a "Diego"? You got me there.

Unless there's a joke in there somewhere that I've missed, of course! Sorry if that's the case....

No joke here.
Diego (by Duesenberg) is a well known brand in Germany.
The Diego line consists of Strat and Tele copies and is highly regarded over here. They are in the 600-700 Euro price range and some years ago (when Fender Mexico only had the Standard and the Classic series) rumours said that - in this price range - a Diego Tele could beat anything offered by Fender (components, build quality).

I once played a Diego and it was indeed a very fine guitar.

Here are some Diegos: http://www.guitarworld.de/gwpages/ge...,35-diego.html

[Ringo]

The pic is of an older Fernandes Tele, it has the headstock that is shaped like a Fender.
I've read that a lot of the MIJ Fernandes guitars were made in the same factory that built the MIJ Fenders.
They are well made guitars, the older ones with the Fender shaped pegheads are worth more than the later hockey stick shaped Fernandes guitars.
I personally love the double bound sunburst Tele body.
The older Tokai pickups are supposed to be very close copies of real vintage Fender pickups, I had an old Tokai Strat with gray bobbin alnico pickups, it sounded like a vintage Strat.
$400 Euros = about $600 US. That seems a little high to me, but you don't see the older Fernandes Teles for sale too often any more, I guess most people just hang on to them.
Have you played the guitar? How do YOU like it?

[Fatmanstratman]

Originally Posted by tonfarbe

No joke here.
Diego (by Duesenberg) is a well known brand in Germany.

Ahhh! Now all is clear to me!

Sorry, tonfarbe - when Weazel said "Maybe he's talking about the Duesenberg Diego", I assumed he meant a model name - like the Fender Telecaster or the Gretcsh DuoJet....

To me, the way he typed it was a bit like saying "the Gibson Epiphone" or "the Fender Squier" - the way you have put it makes it clear! Thanks!

Now I can Google "Diego" and learn about them - never heard of 'em over here!....

[RomanS]

Originally Posted by Ringo

$400 Euros = about $600 US.

Nope. 400$ = 400 Euros. Yeah, I know, official exchange rates are different, but in real life, most musical instrument-related stuff costs about the same amount in Euros that it does in Dollars in the US (sometimes more...)

eg. Fender Deluxe Rever RI: about 1000$ in the US - about 1000€ over here;
Squier CV Tele - about 350$ in the US, about 330€ over here;
Digitech Bad Monkey: 49 in the US, 45€ here;

This is true for pretty much anything music related (but also photo cameras, consumer electronics, etc.) - so, the next time some of you across the greatpond are stumped about Euro prices - simply use the "inofficial" (but closer to reality) 1:1 conversion rate.

[RomanS]

Originally Posted by Fatmanstratman

Now I can Google "Diego" and learn about them - never heard of 'em over here!....

I think they are only sold in Germany (unless you want to import one from a German dealer) - possibly for copyright reasons (they are REALLY close to Fender Teles, headstock shape and all...)

BTW, Rockinger (German parts supplier - Rockinger, Duesenberg, Diego, and guitar parts maker/distributor Göldo are all closely related companies) sells a "build your own" Tele kit that is supposed to be made up from the same parts as the Diegos.

[Fatmanstratman]

Originally Posted by RomanS

I think they are only sold in Germany (unless you want to import one from a German dealer)....

BTW, Rockinger (German parts supplier - Rockinger, Duesenberg, Diego, and guitar parts maker/distributor Göldo are all closely related companies)

Thanks, RomanS - they don't appear to have their own website, and there is very little about them under Google...

I've seen those Rockinger guitars before - they used to do a FABULOUS double bound (think 62RI) bodied guitar. Quite expensive for a "no-name" IIRC, but very nice all the same....

[RomanS]

If you do a search, you can still find Diegos on www.goeldo.de (BTW, they have a bit of company history on that site - Dieter Goelsdorf first founded Rockinger, later Duesenberg and Goeldo, and apparently the Diegos are named after him Dieter Goelsdorf).

But it seems like they dropped the Diego brand name, and are now selling them under the revived prestigious old German Roger brand name (...Roger Rossmeisl - influential designer for Rickenbacker, who also designed the Thinline Tele and the Fender Coronado): http://www.goeldo.de/artikel.php?artgr=100

...a bit complicated, isn't it?

[Ringo]

Hi Roman
All I know is what the currency exchange converter showed, I did it today and it said 400 Euros is about $600 in US dollars.
If it's about the same in real life, then I would recommend that Fernandes as a great buy, I'd buy one for $400 US w/o hesitation.
Take care