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Old November 6th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2010 Fender Custom Shop Plans

From Fender's own Mike Eldred on the 2010 planned releases...

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JOHN MAYER - THE BLACK ONE ***** LIMITED QUANTITY 83 *****
BUDDY HOLLY TRIBUTE
NILE RODGERS HIT MAKER
JIM CAMPILONGO TELE

TELECASTER TRIBUTE ** LIMITED UP TO 60 OF EACH WORLD WIDE **
SNAKE-HEAD TELE
ESQUIRE 1 PU
ESQUIRE 2 PU
BROADCASTER 2PU
NOCASTER

1952 TELE HUMBUCKER IN NECK POSITION ** SPECS ARE THE SOME ON BOTH MODELS **
52 TELE BUTTERSCOTCH BLONDE / HUMBUCKER IN NECK POSITION / 9.5" / 6105 /
52 TELE THREE TONE SUNBURST / EARLY 60's C SHAPE / DARK IND RW BOARD / FAT 50'S PU's

1959 HEAVY RELIC STRATOCASTER ** SPECS ARE THE SAME ON BOTH MODELS **
59 STRAT HVY REL BLACK / DARK INDIAN RW BOARD / 9.5" / 6105 / FAT 50'S PU's /
59 STRAT HVY REL FADED 3TSB / EARLY 60's C SHAPE / SINGLE LAYER WHITE PG /

1963 STRATOCASTER NOS & RELIC ** SPECS ARE THE SAME ON ALL MODELS **
63 STRAT NOS THREE TONE SUNBURST / ROUND LAM RW BOARD / 9.5" / 6105 /
63 STRAT NOS BLACK / EARLY 60's C SHAPE NECK / TEXAS SPECIAL PU'S /
63 STRAT NOS DAKOTA RED / ALDER BODY / SPAGHETTI PAT # LOGO /

63 STRAT RELIC THREE TONE SUNBURST / ROUND LAM RW BOARD / 9.5" / 6105 /
63 STRAT RELIC BLACK / EARLY 60's C SHAPE NECK / TEXAS SPECIAL PU'S /
63 STRAT RELIC DAKOTA RED / ALDER BODY / SPAGHETTI PAT # LOGO /

1965 STRATOCASTER NOS & RELIC ** SPECS ARE THE SAME ON ALL MODELS **
65 STRAT NOS THREE TONE SUNBURST / ROUND-LAM RW BOARD / 9.5" / 6105 /
65 STRAT NOS BLACK / 3 PLY PARCHMENT PG / 5 - WAY SWITCH / ALDER /
65 STRAT NOS DAKOTA RED / 65 STRAT C NECK SHAPE / 65 STRAT PU's /

65 STRAT REL THREE TONE SUNBURST / ROUND-LAM RW BOARD / 9.5" / 6105 /
65 STRAT REL BLACK / 3 PLY PARCHMENT PG / 5 - WAY SWITCH / ALDER /
65 STRAT REL DAKOTA RED / 65 STRAT C NECK SHAPE / 65 STRAT PU's /

1959 PRECISION BASS NOS & RELIC *SPECS ARE THE SAME ON BOTH MODELS **
59 P BASS NOS CHOC 3TS / 1 PC MAPLE / 55 SOFT V / 20 AM STD FRETS
59 P BASS RELIC CHOC 3TS / 9.5" / ALDER BODY / LACQUER FINISH

QUARTERLY RELEASE ~ LIMITED UP TO 30 WORLD WIDE
LTD '58 STRAT CANDY APPLE RED
LTD '70 STRAT 3 BOLT BLACK
QUARTERLY LTD STRAT - TBD
QUARTERLY LTD STRAT - TBD

LTD '72 TELE CUSTOM BLACK
LTD ESQUIRE BUTTERSCOTCH BLONDE
QUARTERLY LTD TELE - TBD
QUARTERLY LTD TELE - TBD

STRAT PRO ******* SAME SPECS ~ NEW COLORS ****** LIMITED UP TO 20 WORLD WIDE ******
STRAT PRO FADED 3TS RW & MN RELIC
STRAT PRO DAKOTA RED RW & MN RELIC
STRAT PRO BLACK RW & MN RELIC
STRAT PRO VINTAGE WHITE RW & MN RELIC

TELE PRO ******* SAME SPECS ~ NEW COLORS ****** LIMITED UP TO 20 WORLD WIDE ******
TELE PRO BLACK MN RELIC
TELE PRO ARCTIC WHITE MN RELIC
TELE PRO NOCASTER BLONDE MN RELIC

LA CABRONITA ESPECIAL *** SAME SPECS ~ NEW COLORS *** LIMITED UP TO 10 1 PU & 20 2 PU ***
LA CABRONITA 1 P/U RELIC CANDY APPLE RED
LA CABRONITA 2 P/U RELIC CANDY APPLE RED
LA CABRONITA 1 P/U RELIC SONIC BLUE
LA CABRONITA 2 P/U RELIC SONIC BLUE

LA CABRONITA ESPECIAL *** SAME SPECS ~ NEW COLORS *** LIMITED UP TO 10 1 PU & 20 2 PU ***
LA CABRONITA 1 P/U TOP BOUND BLACK
LA CABRONITA 2 P/U TOP BOUND BLACK
LA CABRONITA 1 P/U TOP BOUND WHITE BLONDE
LA CABRONITA 2 P/U TOP BOUND WHITE BLONDE

CUSTOM DELUXE (STRAT & TELE / MN & RW) **** NEW COLORS & STANDARD TUNERS ****
CUSTOM DELUXE DAKOTA RED
CUSTOM DELUXE SONIC BLUE
CUSTOM DELUXE DESERT SAND
CUSTOM DELUXE FIESTA RED
CUSTOM DELUXE AGED CHERRY BURST

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Old November 6th, 2009, 08:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll take the, BUDDY HOLLY TRIBUTE, SNAKE-HEAD TELE, BROADCASTER 2PU, NOCASTER, and a LA CABRONITA 2 P/U TOP BOUND WHITE BLONDE.


And a 59 P BASS NOS CHOC 3TS for good measure.

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EDIT I see Jim's now

thanks for the update

Here is my Snake Head 50th anniversary from 1996 #4 of 50 made with NOS parts and specially fabricated fittings. It came with a 46 Woodie Professional and Flight cases too.


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Old November 6th, 2009, 08:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sounds intriguing. I'd love to work there and build those guitars on Fender's dime.

Buddy Holly guitar? Weren't those just stock?

La Cabronita: Weren't those limited to 300 worldwide last year? Oh wait, they dropped the Especial part of the name, and are now making them fancier with binding.

I think they've got some great designs upon the tresselboard.
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I have been searching for this information. Thanks! Fender mentioned the new models would be out around the holidays, but that they had no set rules/deadlines for releases. Also, most would debut at NAMM.

Does anybody have more info on the 2010 Custom Shops?!
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I have been searching for this information. Thanks! Fender mentioned the new models would be out around the holidays, but that they had no set rules/deadlines for releases. Also, most would debut at NAMM.

Does anybody have more info on the 2010 Custom Shops?!
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Gotta' say csapo, I have no problem not coveting thy neighbor's wife but thy csapo's Tele collection is a whole 'nuther story!! VERY NICE!!
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thanks for the update

Here is my Snake Head 50th anniversary from 1996 #4 of 50 made with NOS parts and specially fabricated fittings. It came with a 46 Woodie Professional and Flight cases too.


When you buy such a beautiful, rare guitar, can you play it? Frankly, I would be afraid to. Just wondering, love the photo.
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STRAT PRO VINTAGE WHITE MN RELIC
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Those 83 Mayer "the black one" models will be the fastest selling Custom Shop models ever....and the pups will still be a mystery - imho.
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You guys over in the USA just kill me - I'm so jealous just reading your comments and even being able to THINK about next year's Custom Shop models, what you might like, what you might buy.

For mere mortals like me here in "Rip-off Britain", I couldn't even ATTEMPT to justify spending so much on a guitar. If I did, it would be locked up in a secure glass case and never allowed out - folks (including me) would only be able to LOOK at it for short bursts (in in subdued light, of course).

It's a whole different world for some folks....
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For mere mortals like me here in "Rip-off Britain"....

It's a whole different world for some folks....
You should try living in Australia mate. You guys can buy vintage guitars for the same price we get charged for the new regular models.

As for the new Custom Shop models, I'd be too scared to ask what they'll cost down here.... if they're ever seen in these parts.
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Where I grew up we had to walk 20 miles uphill just to see a picture of a Fender catalog.

Hey Guys, it's pretty much a tease here in the states. To get your hands on one of these you'll have to live within driving distance of one of the few shops that "might" have one or two custom shop guitars. But, if you want one of the really high end models you'll still have to buy online without playing it or pay a shop up front to order one for you.

My local GC doesn't even carry Squire Classic Vibes.
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My bank balance is quivering at the thought of a Broadcaster.....I dare say though it will be far too expensive for the brain to stomach!
Rip off Britain....? Well buy from the US like I've done for the last decade!
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I also heard/read from Mike that the Nocaster was being retired? What is the Nocaster on this list? Just a super one for limited release as a swan song?

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You should try living in Australia mate. You guys can buy vintage guitars for the same price we get charged for the new regular models.

As for the new Custom Shop models, I'd be too scared to ask what they'll cost down here.... if they're ever seen in these parts.
I really want to know what people in Australia want as far as guitars. I will most likely be travelling to Queensland next year with some guitars, some I might sell. At the moment I have a 1956 Les Paul Junior, but other then that I don't know what else I'll bring. I want to know which guitars people are looking for down under?
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Don't forget to check out the soon to be arriving Thinskins. I called Wildwood the other day to ask if they were getting any different ones in, and Bruce said a Thinskin Thinline model was coming. I like the specs on the Jazzmaster they just got in, whith the 7.25 radius/ 6105 fretshttp://www.wildwoodguitars.com/elect...17/le00817.php. I have owned 5 Custom shop guitars and dug them all, still own two i will never part whith, but the Thinskins I have had look/play just as good.
I am leaning towards getting a 59 jazzmaster, however, there is an amp thats been calling my name, it's this little guy, a Clark 5F1/5E3 Hybrid:http://www.clarkamplification.com/lilbitltd.html
I'll wait of the CS Broadcaster, maybe snare a used one down the road!
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Don't forget to check out the soon to be arriving Thinskins. I called Wildwood the other day to ask if they were getting any different ones in, and Bruce said a Thinskin Thinline model was coming. I like the specs on the Jazzmaster they just got in, whith the 7.25 radius/ 6105 fretshttp://www.wildwoodguitars.com/elect...17/le00817.php. I have owned 5 Custom shop guitars and dug them all, still own two i will never part whith, but the Thinskins I have had look/play just as good.
I am leaning towards getting a 59 jazzmaster, however, there is an amp thats been calling my name, it's this little guy, a Clark 5F1/5E3 Hybrid:http://www.clarkamplification.com/lilbitltd.html
I'll wait of the CS Broadcaster, maybe snare a used one down the road!
I may be mistaken, but I thought I'd read that they were only making 60 Broadcasters in total. If that's the case, you'd better start saving your pennies. They're going to be worth a mint.
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Yeah, I was a little confused about this as well. Maybe they've had a change of heart.
If you believe the 60 Nocasters for the world will sell at the "mass produced" CS Nocaster price, I think you'll be surprised.

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CS '72 Custom - cool!!! Wonder how it'll spec.. very little info there, obviously!
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Cool! I want this one: LA CABRONITA 1 P/U TOP BOUND WHITE BLONDE

I see that on two other guy's lists above as well.

We have a little locally-owned store near me that has two CS Teles (Nocaster and Sonic Blue relic (I think - it's blue anyways)) in stock at the moment. The kinda scary thing though is that they've been there a while. That doesn't bode well for them ordering more, unfortunately.
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Rip off Britain....? Well buy from the US like I've done for the last decade!
What a fantastic idea! Why hadn't I EVER thought of that before now?????

Each time I have considered it, I have been quoted a minimum of $120 to ship it here (obviously, you're also going to have to buy the hardcase as well to protect it in shipping, so that adds another $30 to the shipping charge).

Then, when it arrives in the UK, where I live we are obliged to pay (a.) import duties, and (b.) VAT - and often the carrier will demand a "handling fee" before they will release the item. By the time you have paid the shipping and taxes, the total sum is, well, erm.... about the same as you would have paid to buy the guitar in "Rip-off Britain" in the first place.....

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're sadly NOT the first person in the UK to think of importing a guitar direct from the USA. If it was that easy, all the guitar stores in the UK who sold American guitars would have closed their doors LONG ago.....

Unless of course you are talking about visiting the USA and then BRINGING BACK a guitar with you.

If you have some other secret method of importing a guitar from the USA without having to pay shipping, punitive import duties and VAT, I for one would be very grateful if you could share it with your fellow UK TDPRIers.....

I eagerly await your reply - Christmas is on the horizon and I am starting to get * G. A. S. *....
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What a fantastic idea! Why hadn't I EVER thought of that before now?????

Each time I have considered it, I have been quoted a minimum of $120 to ship it here (obviously, you're also going to have to buy the hardcase as well to protect it in shipping, so that adds another $30 to the shipping charge).

Then, when it arrives in the UK, where I live we are obliged to pay (a.) import duties, and (b.) VAT - and often the carrier will demand a "handling fee" before they will release the item. By the time you have paid the shipping and taxes, the total sum is, well, erm.... about the same as you would have paid to buy the guitar in "Rip-off Britain" in the first place.....

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're sadly NOT the first person in the UK to think of importing a guitar direct from the USA. If it was that easy, all the guitar stores in the UK who sold American guitars would have closed their doors LONG ago.....

Unless of course you are talking about visiting the USA and then BRINGING BACK a guitar with you.

If you have some other secret method of importing a guitar from the USA without having to pay shipping, punitive import duties and VAT, I for one would be very grateful if you could share it with your fellow UK TDPRIers.....

I eagerly await your reply - Christmas is on the horizon and I am starting to get * G. A. S. *....
I'll just say one thing, Musical Instruments are taxed, but Collectibles are not...
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I'll just say one thing, Musical Instruments are taxed, but Collectibles are not...
iirc neither are gifts

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I'll just say one thing, Musical Instruments are taxed, but Collectibles are not...
As you seem to be "in the know", could you perhaps point me in the right direction to find some written clarification published by HM Revenue & Customs that defines exactly WHAT is considered simply a "Musical Instrument" and what is considered a "Collectable guitar"?

Are you saying that Custom Shop guitars are considered "Collectables"?

And if so, then if Masterbuilt is saying that he has only been buying Custom Shop (or other highly valued "collectable" guitars) direct from the USA over the last 10 years, I apologise.

I had assumed, Masterbuilt, that you were talking about ANY guitars from the USA; so do you only buy Custom Shop or other high value "collectable" guitars direct from the USA??...

Wow! Can you tell us a little about your "collectable collection" so that I can drool a little?
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Sorry, BuddyLee - that may be the case in the USA, but certainly NOT in the UK. The value of "gifts" that you can bring into the country is pitiful.

Nothing escapes our punitive tax system - otherwise EVERBODY would be sending guitars to the UK as "gifts".....
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Basically you can go to the HM Revenue & Customs website and look through all their tariffs. There are endless numbers of them with pretty arbitary values. You pick whichever is most appropriate to your item.

For some reason new Musical Instruments tariff is ridiculously high. I think it is some ridiculous protectionist law to protect the non-existent UK guitar manufacturing industry. The only people it seems to protect are pain in the arse vintage guitar shops and music stores.

On the other hand certain tariffs like those applied to Historically Collectible items, which is what I consider all the vintage amps and guitars I have purchased from the US as only have a 5% flat charge on the cost of the item plus shipping.

It is a subjective decision, you have your idea of which category your import is and HM Revenue & Customs have theirs. They outline descriptions of what is what on their website, but the descriptions are general at best. On the whole they tend to agree with your choice unless it is ridiculously wrong. Lets face it what makes something a historically collectible item? Most likely the fact it is used and you think it's collectible. I don't know how it might go for a new custom shop guitar, but they certainly are collectible. The historical part I tend to justify by telling myself I have a degree in Cultural History and I can probably argue my way to the point where I can justifibly call it historically important.

What usually happens is whoever is handling the shipping gives you a phonecall or email to ask what is in the package you tell them it's a collectible guitar they tell that to HM Revenue & Customs and then they go thank you very much where is my 5% you pay and it's your guitar.

What I tend to think is that HM Revenue & Customs have better things to do than stop honest players avoiding being ripped off by overprice, uncompetative shops. If you are importing hundreds of Japanese Reissues with the idea of selling them off on ebay they might take exceptions, but it's not like you are a crooked importer trying to make a killing avoiding VAT.
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Well, that's the first time I've heard of that! Every time I've had a guitar shipped from the US I've had to pay full duty and VAT, which roughly seems to total around 22% when combined. And not a penny can be claimed back, despite the fact that I am VAT registered, in the area that used to be described as Theatre, Music Halls, and Recording Studios, and now classified as Performing Arts!
I've never had a call from the shipping company asking what's in the package,as it always has stated on its shipping documents what is inside...and a value. This is all information that has been given by the shipper!The item is unloaded from the plane and taken to a bonded warehouse, where Customs then assess the amount payable. It is then released to the shipping company and delivered to me, at which point I have to pay them the charges, which they pay to Customs on my behalf, and also their charges for doing so!

At no point has there ever been any communication with the shipping company, or with Customs and Excise! You pay what they tell you is correct...or you don't get the goods!
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Well, that's the first time I've heard of that! Every time I've had a guitar shipped from the US I've had to pay full duty and VAT, which roughly seems to total around 22% when combined. And not a penny can be claimed back, despite the fact that I am VAT registered...
You and me both, Ron....

imsilly - I think you may be getting confused here - the SENDER declares what is in the package (NOTE: this is a LEGAL declaration, and if found to be false or misleading the sender is liable to be fined heavily - at best) not the buyer. You (as the buyer) do not HAVE the opportunity to "choose" any category. And have you forgotten about VAT?

The packages are not released to the final (i.e. British based) freight handler until HM Revenue & Customs have assessed the import duty and VAT payable. At that point, the freight handler will usually send you a card advising of the amount payable, and they will NOT release your consignment until you have FIRST paid the amount due. I have argued long and hard with the freight handlers on MANY occasions, but all they will say is "If you don't pay, the goods stay here - you'll have to start a disputes procedure with HM Revenue & Customs. And if you do, good luck to you".

I would note that this ALWAYS happens with larger packages from the USA, even though I've had guitars from other countries without any problems whatsoever? Perhaps we have some sort of agreement with the USA regarding imports?

I've had several VAT inspections over the years, and take it from me, these guys are NOT stupid. You just can not beat the system.

That is why I was so amazed to read Masterbuilt's statement earlier. I'm sure he will come back and explain what he meant shortly!...

EDIT * Sorry, Ron - didn't see that you had edited your post and said the same as me until I posted! *
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Old November 7th, 2009, 08:15 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It sounds like you are all making things exceedingly hard for yourselves. All I know is I only pay 5% on vintage guitar gear I have shipped from the States. I just make sure I did the research into custom tariffs and forms and make sure whoever is filling in the forms doesn't just put anything they like on them.

I think you just have to be specific and let the shipping company (or whoever is sending you the equipement) know what you want done. I make sure to detail all the exact things the shipping company or whoever does the customs forms should do. If you communicate with the sender and the shipping company they will add the right tariff.

No way would I let some feckless, pleb start fillling out forms for me so I make sure I'm dealing with someone who will do things right and not cost me hundreds maybe thousands on import duty and tax. I dunno much about general musical equipment because I have only imported vintage equipement, but I only pay the cost of the item, the shipping, insurance, 5% duty and whatever the shipper wants as a carriage cost for dealing with customs.

The phonecalls and email are always to confirm that the custom forms have been correctly filled in. I literally get them asking for me to confirm either in writing or over the phone what is in the package. So when I say for instance, "It's a vintage Fender guitar" they simple reply and say "OK, and the duty will be 5%." I pay via a debit card on the phone or online and there is no arguing involved.
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Import duty on a guitar is 3.7%.

It's the VAT that is the problem...
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From Fender's own Mike Eldred on the 2010 planned releases...
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I thought the NoCaster was supposed to be discontinued?
They are making only 60 of them. It is probably a lot less than before. It looks like it is a part of the Telecaster Tribute Series. Collect all 5.
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I've had experience with this too, bought a couple of vintage guitars in the US and each time its only been financially viable to physically get them on the off chance that I'm there. VAT is the killer here.
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