Musikraft neck "heavy rolled edges"

[fernando]

I'm assembling a new Tele and ordering a neck from Musikraft.

There's an option called "Heavy Rolled Finger Board Edges" (there's another option called "semi-rolled...")
Any experience with it? How heavily it is rolled? It is soposed to be just more comfortable?

It's gonna be a 7-1/4 radius neck, 1-3/4'' nut width and Clapton V profile.


And, it's a good idea to ask for a slight nut slotting and then fine-tune the slots when the guitar is finished? Or better no slots at all?


Thank you

[JimmyJam]

I bought a neck a while back that had "semi-rolled" edges.
It's comfortable to me. I can't say what the difference is between semi and heavy, though.

I also had them install a bone nut, but it was cut too low, so I had to replace it anyways with a tusq I bought at the store.. I'm not sure if I would ever bother to have them install a nut based on their previous work that I have seen.
Hope this helps.... good luck!

[fernando]

yes it helps, thank you. Mostly about the nut

[newtwanger]

I cannot tell the difference between the semi rolled and heavy rolled. I have had a few of both. Nothing like the Fender CS heavy rolled edges.

I believe they are limiting the amount of roll for your own good. On a crazy-wide 1 3/4" neck like you want, you should worry even more about strings falling of the edges as you near the body.

[BigDaddyLH]

Originally Posted by newtwanger

On a crazy-wide 1 3/4" neck

Crazy-wide? Nut widths have standardized to 1-10/16 and 1-11/16. I'd call 1-12/16 wide, and I know Warmoth and USACG offer 1-14/16 as super wide necks. Wouldn't that mean crazy-wide would be something like 2"?

[fernando]

thank you gentlemen.


What about the nut?

My idea was asking for a pre-slotting (say slotted for .09-.42 and then fine tune it when the guitar is finished) but JimmyJam said they cutted the nut too low. I'm shure they do it right usually but maybe is better to ask for no slotting at all?

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[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLH

Crazy-wide? Nut widths have standardized to 1-10/16 and 1-11/16. I'd call 1-12/16 wide, and I know Warmoth and USACG offer 1-14/16 as super wide necks. Wouldn't that mean crazy-wide would be something like 2"?

I know; from your perspective, everything looks tiny.

I think, once you get past 1.75 nut width, ya gotta start thinking about a 2 + 5/16ths heel width:

http://www.usacustomguitars.com/neckfeatures.html

Otherwise, more than just a little edge roll and you got the strings falling off the edges of the board.

But, there's the option of a Taipantone custom spec bridge with a narrower string array at the nut.

Certainly the guys using AV 57/62 style Strat bridges have issues before the guys using the funny 6 hammer saddle "AV" tele bridges do, and then the regular AV 3 barrel guys get hit last, normally.

* I know some of ya'll still insist that that 6 hammer string array is no wider than the AV52 - but one has slots and the other one does not; you can use "self-help" on a 3 barrel and you just can't on the hammer style.

You stuck.

[newtwanger]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLH

Crazy-wide? Nut widths have standardized to 1-10/16 and 1-11/16. I'd call 1-12/16 wide, and I know Warmoth and USACG offer 1-14/16 as super wide necks. Wouldn't that mean crazy-wide would be something like 2"?

OK, mega-wide?

I've never seen a 7.25 rad 1.75 neck. I've played a 12" rad 1.75 Strat and found it really wide and as Boris describes above even the standard rolled edge made the strings by the 14th fret too close for comfort. Adding more edge fall-off with the 7.25 rad, and then rolling the edges more is recipe for grief unless you're a cowboy chord rhythm player.

Thank goodness for boutique hardware guys like Taipantone and Callaham to solve that by offering narrower bridges.

[my opinion and I know that for me, I am correct ]

[jguitarman]

If you feel comfortable correctly spacing your strings I would suggest NOT having them do a rough in. How much do they charge for this?
StewMac sells a string spacing guage that I have used and it worked fine.

[fernando]

I'll let my local luthier do the slotting then. I'm still far from that fine art...

Also, I won't ask for heavy rolled edges.

newtwanger et al, I know the specs I plan for this neck are unusual. I'm just trying to find a possible formula for a comfortable neck for my hands.
I'm rethinking all after your comments and advice.
There's one more unusual spec that I didn't mention on this thread to avoid dispersion: it will probably be a 24-3/4'' scale neck (not shure yet)
I have short fingers with not slim fingertips... I need more space for my fingertips to avoid the extra effort to not mute nearby strings and I'd like to have a shorter scale to avoid some finger stretch effort too.
But you make me think that all together (wider nut, shorter scale, smaller radius, etc) may not be a good idea...?

[TerryOz]

Don't you mean "assembling" a Tele? To me building a Tele means you make the Neck yourself...No disrespect intended, but we do have scratch builders here that show what they do step by step and the process is a lot more involved than ordering and assembling parts...

[fernando]

you are absolutely right: Assembling (in my case, collecting parts so far :)