Tele Neck Profiles

KevinB · October 16th, 2009, 07:39 PM

We've had quite a few questions about neck profiles lately, and I just saw these pictures on Musikraft's eBay store. While every manufacturer differs somewhat, maybe this will help in explaining the different options we discuss...

KevinB · October 16th, 2009, 07:41 PM

And some more...

Cool pictures!

mellecaster · October 16th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Excellent Post Kevin...this should be made a Sticky !

blue metalflake · October 17th, 2009, 04:18 AM

Thanks Kevin - knew I'd seen something like this before, but not in so much detail, and no idea where it is.

Great help if you can't get your hands on the neck to feel it.

Notalent · October 17th, 2009, 08:46 AM

Excellent post...make it Sticky!
Long time ago, I passed on a V neck Japanese Squier Blond Tele, for $100.00.
My butt is almost gone from kicking it ever since!

openbar · October 17th, 2009, 08:56 AM

Now we should match up the profiles with their respective guitars, that would be handy.

Telemarkman · October 17th, 2009, 09:24 AM

I'm sure these profiles will only make it even more confusing - sorry

...

There are way too many different designations, and many of the different necks really aren't very different at all!

Can someone tell me the difference between a "Chunkey-1 C 1st .90" and a "Chunkey U 1st .90" ? (The profiles seems slightly different at 12th fret though).

And what's the difference between a "C" and a "D"-neck?

And a "Fat D" doesn't really look that much different from a "Chunkey U" except it's deeper?!!

And what about my own AV '52 RI neck? Fender calls it a "U", Boris calls it a "C" and Nacho calls it a "D". But it really doesn't match any of the Musikraft's necks - at least not both 1st and 12th fret.

This will no doubt end in chaos, maybe even disaster

... Hee, hee!

KevinB · October 17th, 2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemarkman

I'm sure these profiles will only make it even more confusing - sorry

...

There are way too many different designations, and many of the different necks really aren't very different at all!

Can someone tell me the difference between a "Chunkey-1 C 1st .90" and a "Chunkey U 1st .90" ? (The profiles seems slightly different at 12th fret though).

And what's the difference between a "C" and a "D"-neck?

And a "Fat D" doesn't really look that much different from a "Chunkey U" except it's deeper?!!

And what about my own AV '52 RI neck? Fender calls it a "U", Boris calls it a "C" and Nacho calls it a "D". But it really doesn't match any of the Musikraft's necks - at least not both 1st and 12th fret.

This will no doubt end in chaos, maybe even disaster

... Hee, hee!

I think that's the point - the profiles differ in very subtle ways, and that's why we have so much trouble describing them.

I can see that C necks have just a little less shoulder than D necks though. And although Warmoth's diagrams are not bad, these are better as they are real necks and they show profiles at both the 1st and 12th frets. What's that they say, a picture is worth a thousand words?

Of course, this is only Musikraft's version, and USACG's, Warmoth's, Allparts, Fender's etc are bound to differ.

It's a start though!

rolijen · October 17th, 2009, 09:56 AM

This is great info. Thanks for posting it Kevin.

Telemarkman · October 17th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinB

I think that's the point - the profiles differ in very subtle ways, and that's why we have so much trouble describing them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinB

Of course, this is only Musikraft's version, and USACG's, Warmoth's, Allparts, Fender's etc are bound to differ.

That's just what I mean - even more confusion.

Moggl · October 17th, 2009, 10:58 AM

Thanks for posting, Kevin.

Wardpike · October 17th, 2009, 11:03 AM

INdeed. Much appreciated, Kevin. Do they have even thinner C shaped necks available? I like the neck on my 1966 Esquire most of all, and it measure about 0.7" around the first fret and very slowly scales up, never reaching more than 0.9" and the join. To me, that's heavenly due to my playing style (thumb behind the neck).

I find thick necks very awkward and cumbersome. And I know opinions vary, which is why we see so many options above... I just don't see "my" option.

Cheers,
Ward

Tidepoolbay · October 17th, 2009, 11:12 AM

Great post Kevin!
Thank you!

KevinB · October 17th, 2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemarkman

That's just what I mean - even more confusion.

So what are you proposing, an ISO standard for guitar neck profiles?

KevinB · October 17th, 2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardpike

INdeed. Much appreciated, Kevin. Do they have even thinner C shaped necks available? I like the neck on my 1966 Esquire most of all, and it measure about 0.7" around the first fret and very slowly scales up, never reaching more than 0.9" and the join. To me, that's heavenly due to my playing style (thumb behind the neck).

I find thick necks very awkward and cumbersome. And I know opinions vary, which is why we see so many options above... I just don't see "my" option.

Cheers,
Ward

USACG will make you a neck from .75" to .09" at the 1st fret in .01"increments. Their standard taper is .07" from the 1st to the 12th fret. But, if you talk them I'm sure they would accommodate you in any way you want.

Musikraft has 13 profiles to chose from with their "Thin D" being .75" to .81", or you can specify anything you want for an upcharge.

I'm not that sensitive to neck thicknesses. I have guitars with much larger and much smaller necks but my '73 Tele is probably the most comfortable for me and that's about .85" at the first fret.

Bill Scheltema · October 17th, 2009, 11:39 AM

I can use those shots, import them into autocad and make new end pucks for my neck contour jig.

Excellent.

Bill

Telemarkman · October 17th, 2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinB

So what are you proposing, an ISO standard for guitar neck profiles?

That's actually a very good idea, even though it isn't mine!

But until then, I'm still at everyone's disposal if they have questions about the difference between a classic "C" and a modern "C".

Maybe even between a "D" and a "U", though I'm not so sure of that anymore

...

Shepherd · October 17th, 2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Scheltema

I can use those shots, import them into autocad and make new end pucks for my neck contour jig.

Excellent.

Bill

YEAH!!!! That would be awesome Bill.

Shepherd · October 23rd, 2009, 07:22 PM

Hey Bill, what's the holdup with the new pucks ?

surfco · October 23rd, 2009, 08:28 PM

Man!!!!!!!!! This is a great post!!!!!!!!!!!
Everybody stand up and start a round of applause for kevin!!!!!!

Bill Scheltema · October 23rd, 2009, 08:40 PM

Hey man, I will get too them, I just have so much to do, wife, 5 kids, work, guitars on and on,

How are your builds going BTW?

Bill

rickc007 · October 23rd, 2009, 08:52 PM

PATHETIC !!!

INEXCUSABLE !!!!

"Claptin"

Clapton with an i

Blasphemous

surfco · October 23rd, 2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickc007

PATHETIC !!!

INEXCUSABLE !!!!

"Claptin"

Clapton with an i

Blasphemous

That's actually funny, man.
No need to get irritated.

rickc007 · October 23rd, 2009, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfco

That's actually funny, man.
No need to get irritated.

Off with their heads !!!

Clapton is God

:-)

Shepherd · October 24th, 2009, 05:12 AM

You know I was just kidding right? The last builds are done and I've got two more tele's and three strat's almost done except for the necks

. Saw this on fleabay and thought of you, one on the right look familiar?

Bill Scheltema · October 24th, 2009, 09:14 AM

Yes I know you were kidding.

I can't believe it, my long lost brother, how'd he get my tele though?

Thats funny.

I am still on # 2 boy your fast.

Bill

October 16th, 2009, 07:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
KevinB Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,219 4 Photos	Tele Neck Profiles We've had quite a few questions about neck profiles lately, and I just saw these pictures on Musikraft's eBay store. While every manufacturer differs somewhat, maybe this will help in explaining the different options we discuss...

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October 17th, 2009, 11:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
Wardpike Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 44 Posts: 2,783	INdeed. Much appreciated, Kevin. Do they have even thinner C shaped necks available? I like the neck on my 1966 Esquire most of all, and it measure about 0.7" around the first fret and very slowly scales up, never reaching more than 0.9" and the join. To me, that's heavenly due to my playing style (thumb behind the neck). I find thick necks very awkward and cumbersome. And I know opinions vary, which is why we see so many options above... I just don't see "my" option. Cheers, Ward __________________ Proverbs 3:6 Matthew 5:44

October 17th, 2009, 11:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tidepoolbay Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Franklin New Jersey Age: 47 Posts: 464	Great post Kevin! Thank you! __________________ Tidepoolbay

October 16th, 2009, 07:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
KevinB Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,219 4 Photos	And some more... Cool pictures!

October 17th, 2009, 04:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
blue metalflake Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ireland Age: 56 Posts: 2,781 10 Photos	Thanks Kevin - knew I'd seen something like this before, but not in so much detail, and no idea where it is. Great help if you can't get your hands on the neck to feel it.

October 17th, 2009, 08:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Notalent Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 176	Excellent post...make it Sticky! Long time ago, I passed on a V neck Japanese Squier Blond Tele, for $100.00. My butt is almost gone from kicking it ever since!

October 17th, 2009, 08:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
openbar Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 554	Now we should match up the profiles with their respective guitars, that would be handy.

October 17th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Telemarkman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Age: 63 Posts: 6,653	I'm sure these profiles will only make it even more confusing - sorry ... There are way too many different designations, and many of the different necks really aren't very different at all! Can someone tell me the difference between a "Chunkey-1 C 1st .90" and a "Chunkey U 1st .90" ? (The profiles seems slightly different at 12th fret though). And what's the difference between a "C" and a "D"-neck? And a "Fat D" doesn't really look that much different from a "Chunkey U" except it's deeper?!! And what about my own AV '52 RI neck? Fender calls it a "U", Boris calls it a "C" and Nacho calls it a "D". But it really doesn't match any of the Musikraft's necks - at least not both 1st and 12th fret. This will no doubt end in chaos, maybe even disaster ... Hee, hee!

October 17th, 2009, 09:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
rolijen Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 115	This is great info. Thanks for posting it Kevin.

October 17th, 2009, 11:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
Bill Scheltema Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Palmerston, Ontario Age: 47 Posts: 663	Thanks Kevin I can use those shots, import them into autocad and make new end pucks for my neck contour jig. Excellent. Bill

October 23rd, 2009, 07:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
Shepherd Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maple Ridge, Canada Posts: 1,124	Hey Bill, what's the holdup with the new pucks ?

October 23rd, 2009, 08:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
surfco Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ◙ Calexico, CA ◙ Posts: 805	Man!!!!!!!!! This is a great post!!!!!!!!!!! Everybody stand up and start a round of applause for kevin!!!!!!

October 23rd, 2009, 08:40 PM	#21 (permalink)
Bill Scheltema Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Palmerston, Ontario Age: 47 Posts: 663	Shepherd Hey man, I will get too them, I just have so much to do, wife, 5 kids, work, guitars on and on, How are your builds going BTW? Bill

October 23rd, 2009, 08:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
rickc007 TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 31	PATHETIC !!! INEXCUSABLE !!!! "Claptin" Clapton with an i Blasphemous

October 24th, 2009, 05:12 AM	#25 (permalink)
Shepherd Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maple Ridge, Canada Posts: 1,124	You know I was just kidding right? The last builds are done and I've got two more tele's and three strat's almost done except for the necks . Saw this on fleabay and thought of you, one on the right look familiar?

October 24th, 2009, 09:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
Bill Scheltema Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Palmerston, Ontario Age: 47 Posts: 663	Shepherd Yes I know you were kidding. I can't believe it, my long lost brother, how'd he get my tele though? Thats funny. I am still on # 2 boy your fast. Bill

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