Pink Paisley Paper

[rafael.braga]

Hello guys!

I'm really new at this forum, and a new addicted fan to the Fender Pink Paisley. I spent this whole week reading threads about the "pink paisley" and didn't found what I was looking for. Wel... I'm brazilian, and unfortunatly, for us the pink paisley is something almost impossible to get... With all the import taxes, and the high dollar quotation for us, this guitar becomes very, very, very expensive!!!

So i decided to talk with my luthier, and we are now on our way to build our own Pink Paisley! Wowwww! Real nice... But we haven't started the project since we have a major problem to solve before starting it... The Pink Paisley Paper my friends... I have seen lots of discussion about what kind of paper, what tone of colors, etc. But my question is...

Is it possible for someone to scan with the best resolution as possible your own Pink Paisley and post the "big" image here?

This way, I think I can user Coreldraw, or any other design software and copy the patterns to a digital desing... This way, all of us would create your own taste of Paisley. I mean: You'd be able to apply the colors you like, use the paper you want, etc, etc, etc.

I have been tryin' to develop it by myself, but I confess it's not easy!

Actually, at my country band, our harmonica player works with everything related to printing, and he can help on the decision of what paper should be good to use or not, but first of all, I need your help posting good scans of paisleis guitars! Good idea? I really don't know...

Anyway, hope you can help us, 'cause after I have this design finished, I'll share it with you all!

Thanks in advance,
Rafael

[varakeef]

Hmmm... the age old question of how to obtain paisley paper. Should we have a thread in Finally Finished forum with all the appropriate links?

There's some pics here:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...rbie-pink.html

[RiverDog]

I'm not sure about the paisley thing but I love the cow print pickguard in your avatar. Where did you get that?

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by varakeef

Hmmm... the age old question of how to obtain paisley paper. Should we have a thread in Finally Finished forum with all the appropriate links?

There's some pics here:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...rbie-pink.html

Sounds good for me! If everybody helps, maybe we come up with a real good Pailsey Paper! I just need a good (high resolution) scan of a Pink Paisley to have it vectorized in Coreldraw, then I can start searching for an adequate paper to print the design on!

Originally Posted by RiverDog

I'm not sure about the paisley thing but I love the cow print pickguard in your avatar. Where did you get that?

Hey! Nice you liked my "telecow" . It's a originally a Squire Standard Telecaster Black and Chrome (Special Edition) with a chrome pickguard, so i bought a white pickguard, made the "cow" in Coreldraw, printed it on a black vinilic paper and sticked this adhesive to my white pickguard

I still have one extra adhesive in case I need to replace this one for some reason!

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by varakeef

Hmmm... the age old question of how to obtain paisley paper. Should we have a thread in Finally Finished forum with all the appropriate links?

There's some pics here:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...rbie-pink.html

Varakeef, do you still have the 1:1 scale scan of the back of that 68 paisley you got from a member in 2007? If you do, is there any possibilities for us to have it digitalized?!

Thanks buddy,
Rafa

[his dudeness]

seems like the have a useable pattern available in that thread (unless its not high res enough) if you have the paper, the time, patience, and know what kind of under/overcoating you need to do, as well as the shade of pink you're going to use.

[varakeef]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Varakeef, do you still have the 1:1 scale scan of the back of that 68 paisley you got from a member in 2007? If you do, is there any possibilities for us to have it digitalized?!

I still have it, but I'm not sure if I coud get it scanned properly. But it's in my long term plan to try. Maybe a copy shop could do that, but when the guitar in scanned, then printed and then scanned again there may be issues.

Originally Posted by his dudeness

seems like the have a useable pattern available in that thread (unless its not high res enough) if you have the paper, the time, patience, and know what kind of under/overcoating you need to do, as well as the shade of pink you're going to use.

This one is quite high res indeed:
http://www.backwaterpartymusic.com/%...ns/bigback.jpg

I think it can be reproducted from there.

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by varakeef

I still have it, but I'm not sure if I coud get it scanned properly. But it's in my long term plan to try. Maybe a copy shop could do that, but when the guitar in scanned, then printed and then scanned again there may be issues.



This one is quite high res indeed:
http://www.backwaterpartymusic.com/%...ns/bigback.jpg

I think it can be reproducted from there.

Okay!!! Thanks for your support buddies!!! I'm right now working on the bigback.jpg file. Maybe in a couple of weeks, or sooner I'll have it finished waiting for your approval. I'll keep posting the progress here!!! Good luck for us!!!

See ya!

[Buckocaster51]

Just so you all know...

it took me a while to realize it, but there is a definite, real, and easily seen (once you know what to look for) difference between the patterns on the '68-'69s and the '84-'86 and subsequent reissues.

Everything on the newer ones can be found on the older. But the older ones have some things that just aren't there on the new ones.

Confusing I know...

I have a 1:1 (or pretty close) scan of an original that I will have to share with some of you some day.

"Bigback" is from my '84.

Cheers

Steve Dikkers
aka Buckocaster51

[adamjs69]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Hey! Nice you liked my "telecow" .

Telecowster

[glowrocks]

I've got a pretty high res closeup on my flickr site:



paisley closeup

[glowrocks]

Here's something I came across that may help reconstruct this design:

[Lerb21]

Originally Posted by glowrocks

Here's something I came across that may help reconstruct this design:

+1

[tele_jas]

Here's a link someone sent me last year.... I know nothing about them, but they "look" legit. http://paisleypapper.vze.com/

[rafael.braga]

This is a very fast draft about what I mean we can do using Coreldraw. Hope you like it!
My corel skills are very limited, but don't worry! This one i did alone, but the bes result will come... A friend of mine, expert on Corel is helping me on this task! Be patiente and sooner I'll post more updates!

See ya!

[shuie]

somewhat related question.....

Is the blue floral paper any easier to get?

[JohnnyAtomic]

Originally Posted by glowrocks

Here's something I came across that may help reconstruct this design:

I've never seen one with that writing before, what year did fender do the ones w/ the writing

[ac15]

I was just at the house of a friend who has an original 68 paisley bass. I have a 1985 MIJ paisley Tele, and my friend has a new CIJ paisley Tele. We put all 3 of them together to compare and they are all different. Of course, the original is more red than pink, but overall, the paper itself on the MIJ models is more like the original than the CIJ is. The most noticeable thing is that the green color in the CIJ pattern is way off. Not even close. The MIJ is quite close.

[Tremolux]

Sadly, ac15, I think all those paisleys in one place left you a little blinded.

(forgive me, folks, I'm one of the participants in the three-guitar paisley-power freak-out mentioned in ac15's post above).

I recall that compared to the original '68 paisley bass, your MIJ tele had almost no texture, or bumps, in the silver portion of the paper. Your MIJ silver looked like the smoothest possible wrapping paper or aluminum foil.

My CIJ tele had some texture in the silver portion, but not as much as the original paisley bass. Upon close examination, the paisley patterns on the original bass looks almost like fabric beneath the clear finish, instead of paper.

However, you are correct about the green flowers. My CIJ has very colorful green flowers, far more vivid than either your MIJ or the original. Clearly, a huge difference.

And also too, for the record, my CIJ is not the very newest version (the version available currently) but from the run of about five years or so ago.

Pics would be super-helpful, and I took some, but I don't know if I can post pics on this forum yet.

[varakeef]

Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Just so you all know...

it took me a while to realize it, but there is a definite, real, and easily seen (once you know what to look for) difference between the patterns on the '68-'69s and the '84-'86 and subsequent reissues.

Everything on the newer ones can be found on the older. But the older ones have some things that just aren't there on the new ones.

Hmmm... could you please point out a few examples of what to look for in old ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHjoi_0YhGA

[ac15]

Originally Posted by Tremolux

Sadly, ac15, I think all those paisleys in one place left you a little blinded.

(forgive me, folks, I'm one of the participants in the three-guitar paisley-power freak-out mentioned in ac15's post above).

I recall that compared to the original '68 paisley bass, your MIJ tele had almost no texture, or bumps, in the silver portion of the paper. Your MIJ silver looked like the smoothest possible wrapping paper or aluminum foil.

My CIJ tele had some texture in the silver portion, but not as much as the original paisley bass. Upon close examination, the paisley patterns on the original bass looks almost like fabric beneath the clear finish, instead of paper.

However, you are correct about the green flowers. My CIJ has very colorful green flowers, far more vivid than either your MIJ or the original. Clearly, a huge difference.

And also too, for the record, my CIJ is not the very newest version (the version available currently) but from the run of about five years or so ago.

Pics would be super-helpful, and I took some, but I don't know if I can post pics on this forum yet.

While your paisley Tele may have more "texture" or "bumps" in the silver portion of the paper, you seem to be forgetting the most important thing of all: My guitar was "Made in Japan" while yours was merely "crafted in Japan."

[jesslm02]

Any progress on the paisley layout?

[lesliespeaker]

Hi, my name is Leslie, i´ve been reading all the post about the Paisley and i wanted to show you my work.
Here is one of the Paisley finish i just done; the Paisley paper used in this guitar is all done by me.
I hope you like it, bye bye!!

[Telegazer]

Pure class! That's so lovely.

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by lesliespeaker

Hi, my name is Leslie, i´ve been reading all the post about the Paisley and i wanted to show you my work.
Here is one of the Paisley finish i just done; the Paisley paper used in this guitar is all done by me.
I hope you like it, bye bye!!

This ones belongs to MArtin Harispe, isn't it?

[rafael.braga]

Well, finally I got it! After a long, long time developing my design, I got it!!!

This week I'm gonna print it on a silver sparkle self backed adhesive. Let's see how will it look like. I'm here also to thanks some people that have supported me on this challenge. Thanks Buckocaster51, AC15 and Varakeef.

Here you got a picture sample of it.

I hope this week I'm able to apply the adhesive to the guitar body, then I'll upload more pictures for you!

My best wishes,
Rafa

[JPark]

Very cool!

[unbridled]

Good info on the differences between original and reissue designs. I was going to post the picture, but someone did a lot of detective work and I don't want to take credit:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpo...1&postcount=11

[Buckocaster51]

I will be very eager to see how this turns out.

[62_Inca_Esquire]

Originally Posted by unbridled

Good info on the differences between original and reissue designs. I was going to post the picture, but someone did a lot of detective work and I don't want to take credit:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpo...1&postcount=11

I just compiled other peoples work into that post, so I can't take credit. It was someone here who posted the original photos.

[lightice]

I did some analysis, and there is more than 2 patterns on the praisley.
I have circled in 2 different colours, that shows " Pattern 1, Pattern 1 mirror " -> Blue
" Pattern 2, pattern 2 mirror " -> yellow

These 4 patterns are actually different. I hope this helps anyone trying to replicate the praisley.

[TerryOz]

Someday, somewhere, somebody is going to find some original Paisley or reproduce some that will absolutely "pass the muster"...That person is going to be very popular, maybe not rich...This will be something to see and Bucko will be able t rest comfortably in the knowledge

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by TerryOz

Someday, somewhere, somebody is going to find some original Paisley or reproduce some that will absolutely "pass the muster"...That person is going to be very popular, maybe not rich...This will be something to see and Bucko will be able t rest comfortably in the knowledge

Hello guys!

This is the closest I got until now to the original foil/wrap paper. What do you think about it? Please, give me your opinion on the color and texture!



My best wishes,
Rafa

[jesslm02]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Hello guys!

This is the closest I got until now to the original foil/wrap paper. What do you think about it? Please, give me your opinion on the color and texture!



My best wishes,
Rafa

Looks like it could work. Only thing is what will it look like underneath the paislies. I'd be interested in seeing it!

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by jesslm02

Looks like it could work. Only thing is what will it look like underneath the paislies. I'd be interested in seeing it!

Hey Jess! Thanks for your reply...

So it won't appear underneath the paisleis because I'll use a different printing process! I'll not use Digital printing, and I'll apply a kind of clear coating between the paper/background and the paisleis printing. This will give the "flying paisleis" look. The always seems to be flying over the background!

But the color/pattern... Do you think it's okay!?

Regards,
Rafa

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Hey Jess! Thanks for your reply...

So it won't appear underneath the paisleis because I'll use a different printing process! I'll not use Digital printing, and I'll apply a kind of clear coating between the paper/background and the paisleis printing. This will give the "flying paisleis" look. The always seems to be flying over the background!

But the color/pattern... Do you think it's okay!?

Regards,
Rafa

Okay....

Now I think it's better... I got a lighter silver color!

What do you think? The lighter or the darker ?

The texture is the same for both!

Is it good?

[jesslm02]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Okay....

Now I think it's better... I got a lighter silver color!

What do you think? The lighter or the darker ?

The texture is the same for both!

Is it good?

I think thats about as close as I've seen. I like the lighter better.

[psychotelepathic]

This is getting interesting...

[Gareth John]

A quick google search brings up this:
It's pretty big when clicked on.
Don't know if anyone here has posted this or owns these pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glowrocks/3124784502/

[TerryOz]

I like the last piece of backing paper...Needs to be a very obviously Silver colour...The texture looks pretty much like the guitar I have photographed on the previous threads...I think that Rafas designs look pretty close as well, every reason to think this might have a pretty positive outcome...All it has to do is look the same, backing paper texture wise and the film over it, colour, pattern and design wise...I have a concern with the pattern in the previous post in that I think it is too "sharp", the lines look thin and generally it isn't "blurry" enough and this is in a state where it is blown up , it'll be even sharper when it is to scale...Obviously the top coat will have some effect on this as well...Generally speaking the original stuff, even when you look under the bridge, fresh as it was ex factory, is not as colourful and neat as this...Enen looks a little out of focus , for want of a better description...Rafa, if this gets real close, get ready for some orders!
Good Luck
TerryO