Pink Paisley Paper

[Buckocaster51]

Originally Posted by Gareth John

A quick google search brings up this:...

pretty sure that is a reissue.

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Okay....

Now I think it's better... I got a lighter silver color!

What do you think? The lighter or the darker ?

The texture is the same for both!

Is it good?

I like the lighter.

The pattern looks VERY close to me.

But you have to remember, I make up most of this as I go along...

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

I like the lighter.

The pattern looks VERY close to me.

But you have to remember, I make up most of this as I go along...

hmmmm... Let me see... hahaha!
You don't need to worry! As I told you before, you were the first to help and believe in me! I can't take all the credits for this, and of course, I'll never forget how much you helped me. Just wait for this to be ready I'll be pleased to send you as many paper as you want!

[Buckocaster51]

Rafael, I hope you didn't misunderstand me. I meant to say that the pattern in the paper looks very close to the "real thing."

Good job!

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Rafael, I hope you didn't misunderstand me. I meant to say that the pattern in the paper looks very close to the "real thing."

Good job!

My mother told me... STUDY english son... I didn't hear her... Now you can see the results! LOL

Anyway, you can consider the answer above as a promisse! My goal is in two week have the first paisley prototype finished!

Let's see what future brings.

[Buckocaster51]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Let's see what future brings.

indeed

this should be exciting!

[cmatthes]

Steve is right - that large image is of a RI Paisley. The earlier MIJs (80s) and the Tokai Pink Paisleys (also mid-'80s) had the closest to the real thing. The silver backing paper (looks like fabric, but that was the old textured wallpaper backing) that Rafa dug up is REALLY close!

I also agree that the lighter, brighter silver would do the trick nicely.

The more recent CIJ runs and the current production Paisleys have a very flat undercoat - I'll take a closer look at a couple this weekend (hopefully!), but it is almost like flat silver paint beneath a white-backed paisley decal...

This is a really cool project!

[PeterUK]

A few application questions.

1. How does the "paper" arrive?
2. Is it cut to shape?
3. What body preparation does the body require?
4. How are the edges treated?
5. Is it easy to apply?
6. Does it require a lacquer coating?
7. How durable is it?

Thanks in anticipation.

Peter

[telemania]

This is an interesting read, quite a lot of inginuity involved in getting the paper made... and you still have the rest of the guitar to contend with.

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by PeterUK

A few application questions.

1. How does the "paper" arrive?
2. Is it cut to shape?
3. What body preparation does the body require?
4. How are the edges treated?
5. Is it easy to apply?
6. Does it require a lacquer coating?
7. How durable is it?

Thanks in anticipation.

Peter

Hey Peter!

Since it's my first attempt on manufacturing the Pink Paisley paper, I'm afraid at least one question I'll not be able to answer, so here we go:
[*]How does the "paper" arrive?
A: The paper size is 70 x 100 cm (27.6 x 39.4 inches)
[*]Is it cut to shape?
A: No! You'll need to cut it to your needs!
[*]What body preparation does the body require?
A: I have not applied any paper yet because it's under development, but I'm gonna do my first test in a sanded body, without any special preparation.
[*]How are the edges treated?
A: You'll need to paint it "pink" ???
[*]Is it easy to apply?
A: I'm trying to add a sticker back to the paper, to make it easier to apply, but if I cannot do this, we'll need to use any ordinary glue.
[*]Does it require a lacquer coating?
A: For sure!
[*]How durable is it?
A: Only time will tell!

[PeterUK]

Originally Posted by rafael.braga

Hey Peter!

Since it's my first attempt on manufacturing the Pink Paisley paper, I'm afraid at least one question I'll not be able to answer, so here we go:
[*]How does the "paper" arrive?
A: The paper size is 70 x 100 cm (27.6 x 39.4 inches)
[*]Is it cut to shape?
A: No! You'll need to cut it to your needs!
[*]What body preparation does the body require?
A: I have not applied any paper yet because it's under development, but I'm gonna do my first test in a sanded body, without any special preparation.
[*]How are the edges treated?
A: You'll need to paint it "pink" ???
[*]Is it easy to apply?
A: I'm trying to add a sticker back to the paper, to make it easier to apply, but if I cannot do this, we'll need to use any ordinary glue.
[*]Does it require a lacquer coating?
A: For sure!
[*]How durable is it?
A: Only time will tell!

Good answers.

Many thanks.

Peter

[TerryOz]

With reference to PeterUKs questions...Most here will know that there was a pretty heavy polyurethane coating over the top of the paper, it had a tenedency to crack and sometimes come off in chunks...It is not all that inclined to yellow off, although it does a bit depending on exposure to club atmospheres and UV...I think one of the critical things for people to be aware of is the Pink colour they select, can't be too "candy" pink, nor too red, but that should be an easy thing to bet right...I would think that all that has to be done to the bare body would be a decent grain fill and sand, use a fill with something that'll allow anything to stick to it, shellac is easy, then find a real good adhesive that'll hold the paper in place front and back, not the edges (obviously)...Interestingly, I think that Fender probably could have done these a lot better back in the day, but I think today with modern finishes and adhesives it'll work out fine...Very worthwhile and interesting project, which I think with time will work out well...
Terry

[PeterUK]

Originally Posted by TerryOz

With reference to PeterUKs questions...Most here will know that there was a pretty heavy polyurethane coating over the top of the paper, it had a tenedency to crack and sometimes come off in chunks...It is not all that inclined to yellow off, although it does a bit depending on exposure to club atmospheres and UV...I think one of the critical things for people to be aware of is the Pink colour they select, can't be too "candy" pink, nor too red, but that should be an easy thing to bet right...I would think that all that has to be done to the bare body would be a decent grain fill and sand, use a fill with something that'll allow anything to stick to it, shellac is easy, then find a real good adhesive that'll hold the paper in place front and back, not the edges (obviously)...Interestingly, I think that Fender probably could have done these a lot better back in the day, but I think today with modern finishes and adhesives it'll work out fine...Very worthwhile and interesting project, which I think with time will work out well...
Terry

Good feedback Terry.

This could turn out to be very, very interesting!

Peter

[Bill Hullett]

This gets my vote for #1 thread of the year!!!

OUTSTANDING

Bill Hullett

[PeterUK]

Originally Posted by Bill Hullett

This gets my vote for #1 thread of the year!!!

OUTSTANDING

Bill Hullett

Bill

I agree. Funny, I never had you down as a Paisley man!

Peter

[TerryOz]

Just a bump for this thread, probably those who haven't seen it yet...I think there are those here who are waiting (patiently?) for a look at the result...I am thinkig that it might take some tweaking to get the pattern and the look just right, but once it is watch out? We'll all be putting Paisleys together...I have 1967 Slab Maple Neck and a mob of correct era parts to put together with a body...Interestingly, these projects are where you can use a '67 or '68 (just because they are gettable) repaired, refinished, routed (perhaps "rooted" might cover it) body that normally might not get a ride and make it a real good Paisley "replica"...Lots of fun ahead if this comes together nicely...Bring it on Rafa
Terry

[Buckocaster51]

Bill is correct.

Rafa is doing a great job...when his girlfriend lets him...

[jloosier39]

hey guys is there any updates on this issue Im getting ready to try with the help of a graffic artist friend of mine to do the best at recreating the paper

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by jloosier39

hey guys is there any updates on this issue Im getting ready to try with the help of a graffic artist friend of mine to do the best at recreating the paper

Sorry for being away for so long...
I'm at work right now, but as soon as I come home I'll upload some pictures I got yesterday. I'm evaluating many different techniques in order to get the best result as possible. So, yesterday I got two printing samples from the companies I've asked to help me. My first try was to use Digital Printing. I had no success because 98% of the printers are ready to print only in white paper. I don't know how much do you know about the printing process, but for the colors to have a good looking, they need the "white" on them! All the colors need the white color, that's why the papers we use to print are white. This week I'm developing with another company, a matrix, to print it to paper using Silk-Screen. With silk-screen technique, I'm able to apply a white base before printing the colors. This way will work, I'm sure of it, but is a little bit slower than using Digital printing.

If you have any doubts guys, please let me know. We are here to help one each other.

And as soon as I come home I'll upload the pictures for the Digital printing.

Peace,
Rafa

[Colt W. Knight]

Here is someting I threw together, It isn't vintage correct, but it is a good interpretation of the Fender pattern.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...er-mkhunt.html

[rafael.braga]

So guys, here I go again!

As I told before, I'm testing the printing possibilities, and the first one was the digital printing.

I have tested it on the silver paper and on a light yellow paper. Here follow the pics:

As you can see, the colors vary depending on the substrate color... It's because all the colors need the white on them, as I explained before... This week I'm going to test the silk screen process. Hopefuly, it's gonna be the way we'll print the paisleis!

Se ya,
Rafa

[Buckocaster51]

Looks to me like you are in the landing pattern and are about ready to make a 3-point landing!

The pattern on that paper looks pretty good to me...

[rafael.braga]

Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Looks to me like you are in the landing pattern and are about ready to make a 3-point landing!

The pattern on that paper looks pretty good to me...

Thanks master Bucko!!!

WE are abou to make a 3-point landing, not ME! I'll still working to adjust the colors! God bless us!

Peace my friend,
Rafa

[BAM!101]

wow! awesome work!

[Colt W. Knight]

looks great so far

[Bill Hullett]

Hi Rafael....
You may have just laid the groundwork for a nice cottage business!! Selling this paper all over the place!!! That is really great work!

Bill Hullett

[PeterUK]

Thanks for your efforts so far.

Looking REALLY good.

Peter

[Bill Hullett]

You never know who among us has a soft pink paisley underbelly!!!

Bill Hullett

[PeterUK]

Originally Posted by Bill Hullett

You never know who among us has a soft pink paisley underbelly!!!

Bill Hullett

Bill

You never cease to amaze me!

Peter

[ThreePlyGuy]

Nice work, this is going to pay off for you and I get the impression there will be bigger things in store.

[SpaceyBen]

this is why i love this site...one guy says hey I wanna make this and everyone chips in and throws together what they know

[MaskedRider]

Where did Tokai get their paisley paper from?

[PeterUK]

Any progress on the Pink Paisley paper?

Peter

[varakeef]

Originally Posted by PeterUK

Any progress on the Pink Paisley paper?

Peter

Devil made me do it...

I got the pdf file here printed with a laser printer to transparency foil, fooled around with some shiny background material with no success but ended up trying to cover scratch plates of a Musicmaster bass (white) and Mustang (white pearloid) with it.

Lazy cutting, no glue, just screws. Just for a laugh.



The pattern is too small in the mUstang above, I used the real size in Musicmaster.

[tomtheguitarguy]

Originally Posted by lesliespeaker

Hi, my name is Leslie, i´ve been reading all the post about the Paisley and i wanted to show you my work.
Here is one of the Paisley finish i just done; the Paisley paper used in this guitar is all done by me.
I hope you like it, bye bye!!

Are you willing to share how you did the Paisley Paper, or at least tell us how to get it? As that's the whole reason for this Topic.

[tomtheguitarguy]

Has anyone checked this out: http://pinkpaisleycustomwallpaper.blogspot.com/

[varakeef]

Originally Posted by tomtheguitarguy

Has anyone checked this out: http://pinkpaisleycustomwallpaper.blogspot.com/

"Cost $200 USD"... I think that is the reason for this topic... creative ways of reproducing or making versions of the paisley pattern.

[varakeef]

Wish I could have some basic knowledge on Photoshopping...

What I'd like to do is to have that beautiful weaving pattern placed in between the paisley stuff, but without the grey or silver in it. Then glueing transparent foil (with the pattern printed on it) over silvery paint would give me the results I need (I guess).

[thr0ttleneck]

Originally Posted by MaskedRider

Where did Tokai get their paisley paper from?

Id like to know that too since im strongly considering buying one in the next few days!

[varakeef]

Originally Posted by varakeef

What I'd like to do is to have that beautiful weaving pattern placed in between the paisley stuff, but without the grey or silver in it.

Hmm... now I found some woven fill layers. With a magic wand I could transform the white behind the paisley pattern into transparent.

Sadly the fill seems too blue-greyish and I can't seem to change it's colour. I can make it more opacue, but the shade should be golden brown. Maybe over the golden paint or a slightly gold tainted silvery paint it'll look ok.

Edit: I see, there's a way to create own fill pattern. Now the fun begins...

[TerryOz]

Hey There varakeef...You need to look at some of the examples of the real Paisley patterns on the previous page, also the pics above of the Tokai...You will see that between the primary Paisley patterns there are a lot of small bits that tend to break down the amount of background silver colour...If they aren't present, as in your and the current *** pattern, you end up with the silver backgroung looking like a uniform criss cross pattern...Nothing like the effect of the original which is quite busy and "seemingly" more colour and pattern than background...Check it out, it is very obvious when you see it...
Keep at it!
TerryO