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hugo · January 1st, 2009, 04:59 PM

I was just curious...could you conceivably take a Strat headstock and cut a tele headstock out of it? Is it possible???

Rooney · January 1st, 2009, 05:11 PM

I feel like the buldge on the tele is in the middle of the taper of the strat's so you could make something similar, but not an exact copy. (This is just my assumption from looking at a picture of a tele headstock and strat headstock just now on google)

pchilson · January 1st, 2009, 05:13 PM

hugo, just overlay one of your tele headstocks over that Deluxe tele headstock and eyeball it. If you have wood in all the right places you are on your way...

RodeoTex · January 1st, 2009, 05:17 PM

I believe I've seen paper cutouts overlaid showing that it will work.

carbonti · January 1st, 2009, 07:09 PM

Cutting a tele headstock from a strat depends very much on what version of a tele headstock you're shooting for. There is enough variance in the tele shape from vintage to modern that it might work for the version you want.

I looked into this and tele from strat doesn't work. The curvature of the ball from the high e tuner on a strat doesn't leave enough wood to make an accurate compound curve that is the ball on the tele headstock. YMMV.

hugo · January 1st, 2009, 07:22 PM

Carbonti, thanks for the info. I wasn't sure but thought it might be worth a try. I would have just checked my guitars myself but some guitars are with me and others are at my home. My home is being reno'd and the wife and I are renting another house until done. Thanks alot for all the help guys. It is fun trying to be creative with guitars isn't it?

jwells393 · January 1st, 2009, 07:33 PM

You should be able to come pretty close. Here's a Telecaster headstock overlaid on a Classic Stratocaster headstock done with Photoshop. You would probably have plenty of wood on one of those big goofy Tele Deluxe or Squier Strat headstocks.

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hugo · January 1st, 2009, 07:55 PM

Cool. So, you're calling my tele deluxe goofy?????
You know what, to be honest I loved it at first but now I hate it. I won't ruin a fender deluxe but I will ruin a squier deluxe. Yes, I'm a fender snob even though I love my squier CV.
Can I ask a question, what does it mean if my Tele Deluxe is a Limited Edition? I mean I can't find any info on this guitar at all regarding the limited edition part. Any ideas, jwells393?? Just razzin ya about the "goofy headstock" thang.

carbonti · January 1st, 2009, 08:59 PM

I looked into tele from strat after working around the paucity of wood on a USACG t-style headstock to shape into a clone tele headstock. I didn't want to be in the same situation with the next tele neck project so I investigated other options.

jwells photoshop illustration is exactly why IMO close isn't good enough. There simply isn't enough wood to shape a tele headstock. The tele overlay runs off the strat headstock by the "synchronized" portion of the strat decal. If there isn't enough wood to shape, to work around that shortfall means all the other french curve radii have to be adjusted to fit within the amount of wood you've got. It ends up not looking right.

Short answer that works: Use largest CBS-era Strat headstock shape to make a thin 1948 vintage tele headstock shape.

jwells393 · January 1st, 2009, 10:43 PM

If there's not enough wood for a proper reshape there's always the headstock transplant.

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hugo · January 1st, 2009, 10:47 PM

jwells393, dude is there anything you can't do when it comes to guitars?? I have seen your builds in the past and read your posts. You do know your sh*t don't you! Thanks for the help. I will probably just get a new neck. No tools for that kind of work. Wow, where did you learn how to do all this stuff? Seriously?

carbonti · January 1st, 2009, 10:57 PM

A tip of the hat to jwells...skills that make any guitar project solvable and trivial at the same time. Stuff like that points out the chasm between being a craftsman and a consumer. Salud.

fenderix · January 1st, 2009, 11:11 PM

I repeat what the above posters say. I've been very impressed by the way you come up with ideas and build the instruments presented in your threads.

You're good Jack!

viking · January 2nd, 2009, 12:56 AM

Aaaand hes taking pictures for all of us to learn from....
Thank you SIR , you rock !

RodeoTex · January 2nd, 2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugo

jwells393, dude is there anything you can't do when it comes to guitars?? I have seen your builds in the past and read your posts. You do know your sh*t don't you! Thanks for the help. I will probably just get a new neck. No tools for that kind of work. Wow, where did you learn how to do all this stuff? Seriously?

I would not even pretend to answer for Jack but I suspect that he has learned mostly from experience and even more from his mistakes. Such is the nature guitar making.
JMO

ddhr · January 2nd, 2009, 04:17 PM

Not the best shot to see the headstock, but I was able to get pretty close:

I used the paper cut out method...

Doug

hugo · January 2nd, 2009, 05:01 PM

ddhr, it looks damn close from jwells pics anyway. I may just try drawing on it to see how close it is. I mean if we're talking 1/16th then it might just pass. On the other hand, I am quite picky about things being exact so.... that looks like you did an awesome job though.

January 1st, 2009, 04:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
hugo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,297	Taking a Strat headstock and cutting a tele headstock? I was just curious...could you conceivably take a Strat headstock and cut a tele headstock out of it? Is it possible???

January 1st, 2009, 05:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
RodeoTex Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,925	I believe I've seen paper cutouts overlaid showing that it will work. __________________ Turn it on, turn it up, turn me loose.

January 1st, 2009, 07:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 65 Posts: 14,282 101 Photos	You should be able to come pretty close. Here's a Telecaster headstock overlaid on a Classic Stratocaster headstock done with Photoshop. You would probably have plenty of wood on one of those big goofy Tele Deluxe or Squier Strat headstocks. ...... __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" I'm just not cool enough to be a Mac person.

January 1st, 2009, 10:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 65 Posts: 14,282 101 Photos	If there's not enough wood for a proper reshape there's always the headstock transplant. ...... __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" I'm just not cool enough to be a Mac person.

January 1st, 2009, 05:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rooney Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 313	I feel like the buldge on the tele is in the middle of the taper of the strat's so you could make something similar, but not an exact copy. (This is just my assumption from looking at a picture of a tele headstock and strat headstock just now on google)

January 1st, 2009, 05:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
pchilson Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Loveland, Colorado Age: 51 Posts: 2,125	hugo, just overlay one of your tele headstocks over that Deluxe tele headstock and eyeball it. If you have wood in all the right places you are on your way...

January 1st, 2009, 07:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
carbonti TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York Posts: 99	Cutting a tele headstock from a strat depends very much on what version of a tele headstock you're shooting for. There is enough variance in the tele shape from vintage to modern that it might work for the version you want. I looked into this and tele from strat doesn't work. The curvature of the ball from the high e tuner on a strat doesn't leave enough wood to make an accurate compound curve that is the ball on the tele headstock. YMMV.

January 1st, 2009, 07:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
hugo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,297	Carbonti, thanks for the info. I wasn't sure but thought it might be worth a try. I would have just checked my guitars myself but some guitars are with me and others are at my home. My home is being reno'd and the wife and I are renting another house until done. Thanks alot for all the help guys. It is fun trying to be creative with guitars isn't it?

January 1st, 2009, 07:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
hugo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,297	Cool. So, you're calling my tele deluxe goofy????? You know what, to be honest I loved it at first but now I hate it. I won't ruin a fender deluxe but I will ruin a squier deluxe. Yes, I'm a fender snob even though I love my squier CV. Can I ask a question, what does it mean if my Tele Deluxe is a Limited Edition? I mean I can't find any info on this guitar at all regarding the limited edition part. Any ideas, jwells393?? Just razzin ya about the "goofy headstock" thang.

January 1st, 2009, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
carbonti TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York Posts: 99	I looked into tele from strat after working around the paucity of wood on a USACG t-style headstock to shape into a clone tele headstock. I didn't want to be in the same situation with the next tele neck project so I investigated other options. jwells photoshop illustration is exactly why IMO close isn't good enough. There simply isn't enough wood to shape a tele headstock. The tele overlay runs off the strat headstock by the "synchronized" portion of the strat decal. If there isn't enough wood to shape, to work around that shortfall means all the other french curve radii have to be adjusted to fit within the amount of wood you've got. It ends up not looking right. Short answer that works: Use largest CBS-era Strat headstock shape to make a thin 1948 vintage tele headstock shape.

January 1st, 2009, 10:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
hugo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,297	jwells393, dude is there anything you can't do when it comes to guitars?? I have seen your builds in the past and read your posts. You do know your sh*t don't you! Thanks for the help. I will probably just get a new neck. No tools for that kind of work. Wow, where did you learn how to do all this stuff? Seriously?

January 1st, 2009, 10:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
carbonti TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York Posts: 99	A tip of the hat to jwells...skills that make any guitar project solvable and trivial at the same time. Stuff like that points out the chasm between being a craftsman and a consumer. Salud.

January 1st, 2009, 11:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
fenderix Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 3,781	I repeat what the above posters say. I've been *very* impressed by the way you come up with ideas and build the instruments presented in your threads. You're good Jack!

January 2nd, 2009, 12:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
viking Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 652	Aaaand hes taking pictures for all of us to learn from.... Thank you SIR , you rock !

January 2nd, 2009, 04:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
ddhr Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 205 13 Photos	Not the best shot to see the headstock, but I was able to get pretty close: I used the paper cut out method... Doug

January 2nd, 2009, 05:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
hugo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,297	ddhr, it looks damn close from jwells pics anyway. I may just try drawing on it to see how close it is. I mean if we're talking 1/16th then it might just pass. On the other hand, I am quite picky about things being exact so.... that looks like you did an awesome job though.

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