Sum slow weekend thoughts

[0le FUZZY]

<li>Many of yew haff read the TELECASTER Bible and sum of yew are like me and haff read the ink offin the pages(I hadda buy a nutter one).


<li>Now here iss my question. Watt haff yew learned here onna NET and in yer own TELECASTER life that is knott printed or splained inna book?
<li>Are there any items that yew disagree with?
<li>Watt wood yew add tew the data?
<li>Is it time fer an update?
<li>A.R. Duchossoir (Dushe-sis-swaa, thanx Nacho) disappeared over in France er sumplace over there many years ago.
<li>Duz anyone here know where he iss?
<li> How long duz a copy-rite lass and wood Hal Leonard publishin allow an updated version and if sew how wood we know?<li>Are there any books on the horizion? I haff most all published sew far but most are 90s publications.<li>I haff many more questions and thoughts but here on a slow weekend thats enuff fer now.
<li>I dew haff many wishes but one is that Fenner or sumbody wood publish a book including all TELECASTERs and details like the Bible fer post 1980 till now and dew a section on the 52 Reissue and its history from conception till now.<li>I'm sure this will be a ROM (Read Only Message) but after all it iss a slow weekend and this stuff duz require sum thought.
<li>Thanx!!


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[purpletele]

but, The Encyclopedia of Electric guitar has alot about Fender including 80's to present....even stuff about relicin'. check it out

http://www.elderly.com/books/items/542-23.htm

[jvc]

Fuzzy,I agree that an update is needed. It would be great to see an entire book about the 52 RI's and a separate book on the 80's to present Teles. I believe Duchossoir left out some important nitty gritty in the bible, even though it's the best Tele reference so far. Maybe he's sittin at a villa in the south of France, drinkin wine and playin his geetars! As I recall, he didn't mention the D stamp or neck pup spring holes, among a few other details. I had to buy another copy recently, my first one got all wore out too! Good post, my fren, thanks. jvc

[0le FUZZY]

<li>I haff a lotta books that cover a lotta letric guitars li kat one.
<li>I waz thinkin in terms of TELECASTER only.
<li>Looks like an informative book no doubt but I'm sure it don't cover the Nitty-Gritty of TELECASTER like the Bible.
<li>OH BTW !! iffin the term Bible offends anyone here jes let me know inna PM and I'll cease and desist.

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[auger]

what is 'punk ash'? Is that what they make Telecasters out of for punk rock bands?

[0le FUZZY]

<li>Fenner found it in "Agathis" HEE! HEE!
<li>I ceen they wassa lookin tew "procuring light-weight Punk ash" but never paid much never mind cause I thought "procurin" waz a process they done tew CURE swamp ash they already had. Yew may be rite, they wassa gittin them ready fer punk music.
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[Raymond]

1. What I've learned here that's not in the bible.
- Mexican and Japanese Tele issues
- Set up and maintenance
- Part suppliers and their reputation
- Dealers
- Building and mods
- Amps
- eBait
- A lot of invaluable stuff about life in general, thanks to the Bad dog cafe.

2. Update, opinions, etc...

The books stops somewhere in the 80s. What has happened after that?

Well, call me a heretic, but I think any book about Telecasters should have a section with Mexican and Japanese Teles and Squires. Origins, specs, and nitty gritty in general. Also, I'd include independent builders that have made an influence in the Telcaster like Lentz, Jay Monterose(?), etc.

I said that it may sound heretical, but it's just my opinion....

[dean]

1. What the heck is that "D" stamp?

2. What's the actual, factual history of the Shoemaker Purple Tele?

Until these questions are answered, nothing else really matters! Unless you're interested in those early MIJ and MIM years. Or maybe a more detailed look at those awesome Fender amps of the '50s, '60s, and '70s.

Good questions, FUZZY!

Dean

[Nick Fanis]

but I was just thinking of posting the EXACT same thoughts after a sleepless nite a few days ago during a recording session.The studio had a copy of the bible and I re-read it when they were doing the (boring :? ) keyboards and I was thinking that is was a GREAT book but needed a serious update.....
The biggest omission in my book is that it DOES NOT MENTION TDPRI!!

[lewis]

A new book is needed.
Too bad there isn't anyone we know who has all types of Teles holed up in a "shack" somewhere, they would be a great resource for a new publication. I happen to know a very good photographer btw (yours truly ).
The '52ri and all of its variations would make a nice little book in itself.
Does Nacho still have anything in the works?

[rusticman]

when i joined tdpri back in 99 after getting my first tele (my '75 blonde fender). One of the things not mentioned in the bible was black plastic plate found between the neck plate and body on some 70's teles.

Ofcourse Fuzzy was the one with an answer.

now a few years later i have eight teles and my bible is so worn that some of the pages are loose.

rust :P

[0le FUZZY]

<li>I think we are a canoe breed of rascals here and now on TDPRI and elsewhere onna NET. We are a liddo different and mebby a liddo weird. HEE! HEE!
<li>I know in my life away from the NET none body I mean none body! knows or cares about the Nitty Gritty of TELECASTER like we dew. Most of my frens play them but only luv makin music with them and haffin them sound good without knowin why they dew.
<li>Now Nacho issa werkin onna Book but I think it will be oriented toward Broadcasters and early TELECASTERs and I kant wait till he gits it published.
<li>G.G. wassa gonna dew a book but he iss very busy in his daily publications in his magazine.
<li> Li ki typed, this update should be TELECASTER only and those liddo details like MIJ, MIK, MIC, MIM, MII and MIA serial numbers, variants (like the Bacon Day book has) and sew many other aspects of TELECASTER should be showed.
<li>Sumtimes I grow weir-ree of the bess of this and that and who done watt and nutter kinda geetarz but its all part of this great page and it wood-dent be the same without it.
<li>Jes trynna trigger sum TELECASTER related response from yew all and thanks fer the type sew far.
<li>I really wood like ta cee an adjunct tew or a revision of the Bible.
<li>I reckon we jes live with watt we got fer now.
<li>Please add any further thoughts yew all haff on this subject and thanx again. Mebby we kin giff some riter sum pointers. Then again, folks dew that stuff fer the getus and I reckon there ain't enuff of us ta make em any. HA! HA!

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[Bill]

I write technical manuals for a living (things like the Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator user guides), and the problem with writing about things that are still being made and updated is that the documentation becomes outdated very quickly.

If it's being written for money, then yes, I can see writing it as a book. But if it's strictly to get the information to as many people as possible, then you might want to consider writing it as a Web site and/or as a downloadable PDF.

The easiest way to do it might be to have a Web site where folks like Nacho, O.F. and others could contribute and update non-copyrighted information. The person putting it together could write it up in Word or Frame, include submitted photos, etc., convert it to PDF, and have one or more downloadable/viewable PDFs at that site.

As better info and better photos were submitted and verified, the documentation could be revised and listed with revision numbers as needed.

In a sense, that's basically how we do it at Adobe, only we do one revision for each new version of the program.

[nacho]

Hey Fuzz, I just put my 2 baby daugthers to sleep and just trying to play some sat night at home. but at 1 am it surely is slow thinking around here too!
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Just like you mentioned, my work is focused on only 50-54 teles, so its not as near as thorough as ADs work, so probably not the book you may have in mind (although you are in my team and you know that). And Id like to give it more of a graphic view instead of too much text. I do have 14 (700 mgs ) disks full of detailed studio images from around 30 blakguards
and still working. Spare time. I did try to contact AD cause I know a collector in france that knows him, just to talk about publisihng and editing, cause i havent found a single publisher interested, but he never answered me.
If he retaired already I be hed be around here in Spain, maybe in my area! this is where all european retired people come!
take care,
nach.

[darkgable]

The best Fender book is the by Richard Smith "the sound heard around the world". It dosen't have a ton of nitty - gritty but there is alot of info hidden in all those pages and great pics imo. I think he should do another book on all the nitty-gritty history as we like to call it. Fuzzy why don't you write a text ? I couldn't think of one other person so deticated to the Telecaster than you . Give it sum thought as you would say.

[darkgable]

Nacho, I can't wait to see your book it'll be "top notch", i'm sure. When do think you'll be ready to go into print? The blckguard's are my fav's as well . I'll be waiting to see and read your book soon I hope.

[0le FUZZY]

Give it sum thought

<li>I wood say "giff it sum thot(leaf out the`ugh'"
<li>I haff done giff it a lotta thot an reckon none body wood reed it. Heck, even my wife (ole sweet thang) won't reed my ritin.
<li>Nacho may or may knott use the title "The BLACKGUARD" but I tew am anxious tew cee the manuscript.
<li>I alwayz liked this pix of yew Nacho.


<li>Sew much sew I took one of me.



<li>Sew cents I did sew did mjtele HEE HA!





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[Oster]

There's one thing that may be too much to ask as an inclusion for an update of 'the bible' but in my opinion, a lot of people might like an explanation of what the various stamps usually found in old neck wells mean. You know the ones: 'Frank 180' or D.REED, red or black circle stamps, etc. It would be nice to tie some of those into a date, etc. Someone here recommended 'The Sound Heard 'Round The World' as another excellent book. My own personal second runner up is Forrest White's 'Inside Story'. Very cool insider's eye view. Best of all are the endpages with original sales material listing specs in that cool straightforward '50s way. My favorite part of the 'bible' by the way, is the mention of 'ghost finishes' from the '60s, designed to reveal patterns under black light. Anyone here have one of THOSE?

[Bob Rogers]

Fuzzy, I think you should write the book as well. Do all the nitty gritty. Have a “care and feeding” section covering mods and repairs. Go at least through the ‘80’s. You already have a good start (and a great collection of pictures) on your web site.

As far as the writing style goes, I think you should embrace your inner schizophrenic. Have the book be by Ole Fuzzy and A. Barron. Use the Barron voice for most of the text, but have Ole Fuzzy do sidebars.

[Big Tony]

Originally Posted by Bob Rogers

As far as the writing style goes, I think you should embrace your inner schizophrenic. Have the book be by Ole Fuzzy and A. Barron. Use the Barron voice for most of the text, but have Ole Fuzzy do sidebars.

Excellent idea!

Of course you're the man to write the new extended Telecaster Bible, Fuzzy! I've been reading your posts since '98, and you have taught me SO much about Telecasters, that's not in Duchossoir's book.

"The Telecaster in the 20th Century" could be extended to cover the 80s and 90s, and all the MIOC (Made In Other Countries) models. I think it would be wise to stick to Fender and Squier. It would have to include all the invaluable "how to.." tips & tricks that you've posted thru the years.

I would buy your book!

[Big Tony]

..the title "The Fender Telecaster - The First 50 Years", would be better? :)

[TG]

It's the morning after a late gig so the old grey matter is struggling.....but I can vaguely recall that on a number of occasions I've had technical queries that the book hasn't been able to help me with. I've got advice several times from the guys on the Fender Forum (I've not been on this forum very long). There is definitely a need for an update of that book. I'm going to the south of France for a week in April so if I bump into the guy I'll suggest it to him.
But you guys could do a good job of it too, I'd imagine. It would be a fun project, and you'd certainly make enough money selling the book to afford a few more guitars....

[Caper]

Fuzzy, great idea, a book that covered all things Telecaster. I personally would pay good money for such a book as you are proposing.

[nacho]

you and Mark sure look good on that pic!!
Shame we couldnt make it a real pic with you guys here.
I agree with the bunch. YOure the man to write a thorough book on anything tele. I never attempted to cover that such cause my additional knowledge is limited to the early stuff. When I say additional I mean some knowledge that comes from my real experience and its not shown in any book. It wouldnt make sense to rewrite whats already out there. I always thought the early fenders are somewhat unkown to the general public, information available is somewhat generic and being an aficionado, I thougth about writing and picturing something that would be of my interest as a buyer, some that Id like to find in a bookstore, which is mainly the early stuff.
n.

[nacho]

thanks for your support. This is something fun, part of the love for this guitars, done for my own enjoyment, which in fact has proved to be of little interest for publishers up to date.
Book publishing is something I dont know anything about, but I will try to offer this to people in some feasible way for me and hopefuly some one out there will be interested. But in case not, I would have surely enjoyed it nevertheless. I do this at sparetimes, trying to spend as little as possible and not expecting much in return, but aint that the greatness of it?
regards,
nach.

[Roger Alburn]

I’ve long felt a cooperative effort of TDPRI talent could produce a salable book.

I was a sales rep for a Mad. Ave. book publisher for ten years in the 80s. I spent most of my time in book stores and spoke with Big Apple hot shots frequently. IMHO the “Bible” stayed in print as long as it did because it appealed to anybody who likes guitars. —Nice pictures, stars playin’ Teles, cool customs, great cover, etc. A little pizzazz goes a long way. I bought it for this reason. Then I started getting into the knobs and stuff.

Duchossoir did a great job, but the world has changed; we’ve seen the mainstreaming of Country, the solidifying of Punk and Alternative, and the classicism of old Rock, yet all this time Telecasters have stayed hip. You've got Nudie-suit wearin' Buck Owens and neo-Nudie Marty Stuart. The Boss, Joe Strummer, Chrissie Hynde, Radiohead. The enigmatic figures of Leo Fender and Bob Dylan. You’ve got new design attempts every few years. We really need a whole new book.

How do you please hard-eyed collectors and the editor who’s got to make profit? I’d suggest spreading enough eye candy and star pics and quotes to get the book off the shelf and into the buyer’s hands, and then the right presentation of detail to keep it there. Teles appeal to us for specific reasons; the signatures, overspray patterns and rusty threads connect us to history in some way; it shouldn’t be hard to get these across to newbie Telephiles with still enough reference to satisfy collectors. The history of music everybody loves is inextricably twined with the history of the Telecaster, after all.

Publishing is part of the entertainment industry. It’s like any other gig!

[auger]

I liked that article on T.G. that his grandson posted on the Weber board, and I'd like to see more of the faces of early Fender and read about what they did there.

And...is there any way Nacho could include a scratch and sniff page with the smell of a real black guard, for those of us who will probably never get near the real deal?

[ne4tt]

I always take a look at Fuzzy's website, and read his TDPRI posts.
Tele info with humor thrown in.

One of these days, I'll make that sacred Tele pilgrimage to the Tele Shack. ; )

BTW Fuzzy, What are your Fender book recommendations???
"Esquiring" [Inquiring] minds wanna know!!!

jamie