New bridge model from Glendale...

[robt57]

Originally Posted by stephent2

So, with that same attitude that diminishes the value of other's works, we can dismiss a $250 bridge plate as "bling" or the purchase of a fool.

And I will respond to that in saying a fool and his money are soon parted.

And then I would say that if you can afford 'anything' that is at the edge of the expensive side of a product's price range... And you want to buy it... you probably do not need anyone's blessing to do so.

But if you base your positive opinion of any such product [as applicable] based on your not wanting to admit to yourself you didn't get what you paid for, then I'd say you meet the criteria for the stereo type.

Prospective being everything, and it is both the money and prospective which matters to the purchaser. But don't think any one at the club or the cockroaches in you wall can hear any difference. But you can't rule it our either.

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by robt57

And I will respond to that in saying a fool and his money are soon parted.

And then I would say that if you can afford 'anything' that is at the edge of the expensive side of a product's price range... And you want to buy it... you probably do not need anyone's blessing to do so.

But if you base your positive opinion of any such product [as applicable] based on your not wanting to admit to yourself you didn't get what you paid for, then I'd say you meet the criteria for the stereo type.

Prospective being everything, and it is both the money and prospective which matters to the purchaser. But don't think any one at the club or the cockroaches in you wall can hear any difference. But you can't rule it our either.

This is all little more than you placing a value on an item based on your beliefs and needs and projecting that on everyone else.

I do believe that with Glendale I've gotten what I paid for. High quality products and great service. They're the best bridge plates and saddles I've used. When someone says that they're the "Best", that's generally what they mean. It's the best they've used. Of course, YMMV.

Also, I have no understanding of how you're using the word prospective.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by rhinocaster

This is all little more than you placing a value on an item based on your beliefs and needs and projecting that on everyone else.

I do believe that with Glendale I've gotten what I paid for. High quality products and great service. They're the best bridge plates and saddles I've used. When someone says that they're the "Best", that's generally what they mean. It's the best they've used. Of course, YMMV.

Also, I have no understanding of how you're using the word prospective.

1) Thanks for minimalizing my total 30 + years of playing / modding and in the last 6 year building about 15 Guitar into terms describing that sum as "all little more than" anything. I can tell you I have solid confidence with regards my experience and results in my electric guitar building and opinions. So now I will take the polite off projecting on this issue. [yea, that was me attempting polite ;)]

Anyone that thinks that piece of steel, a counterpart of the original $8.99 [at current market] 'actual' implementation / part, [not withstanding the difference in pickup orientation] has more money than sense IMO. So being I do not, I am certainly short on that prospective, especially lately. Short? I meant money, and my own prospective is that I in fact have sense as it pertains to the issue of a Tele bridge on both a builder and player level.

I surely understand what 'best' means in pretty much any context. I have to say your reply / reiteration 'it simply being the best' without addressing an obvious quest/requests for an opinion of which aspects may be considered as contributing to it superiority leaves me unconvinced.

Prospective = what you think/believe/ have convinced yourself

[Walter Broes]

I can see the point of a quality intonated saddle, but once you get to the $300 bridges, NOS tone caps, Dinosaur bone string guides and switch tips, $200 guitar cables, it gets a little crazy IMO.

I'd spend the money on CD's or records, a nice holiday, dinner with a beautiful girl, a night out, a good book,... instead. And I think those things, without wanting to get too heavy handed, along with a whole lot of practice, will make you sound better than a $300 bridge ever could. Seriously.

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by robt57

1) Thanks for minimalizing my total 30 + years of playing / modding and in the last 6 year building about 15 Guitar into terms describing that sum as "all little more than" anything. I can tell you I have solid confidence with regards my experience and results in my electric guitar building and opinions. So now I will take the polite off projecting on this issue. [yea, that was me attempting polite ;)]

Anyone that thinks that piece of steel, a counterpart of the original $8.99 [at current market] 'actual' implementation / part, [not withstanding the difference in pickup orientation] has more money than sense IMO. So being I do not, I am certainly short on that prospective, especially lately. Short? I meant money, and my own prospective is that I in fact have sense as it pertains to the issue of a Tele bridge on both a builder and player level.

I surely understand what 'best' means in pretty much any context. I have to say your reply / reiteration 'it simply being the best' without addressing an obvious quest/requests for an opinion of which aspects may be considered as contributing to it superiority leaves me unconvinced.

Prospective = what you think/believe/ have convinced yourself

Other players with as much experience (or more) than you, feel differently about a piece of steel. Their experiences lead them to believe something else. So who's right?

I would believe that you're right if you're doing the correct thing for yourself. So there's really no place for belittling comments about "Fools" and their money IMO. The "Little more than" statement doesn't minimize your experience and your belief system at all. It simply points out that now matter what your personal experience is, in the end it's just an opinion. Of course, in your case it is an experienced opinion that has value.

I guess I have to say that I haven't been a fan of the tone of your posts on this subject. A bit harsh with a fair amount of derision. That doesn't mean that I think you're a bad guy, it's just not hitting my ear well.

There have been many posts by players that have used Glendale products that include detailed reports on tonal differences once changes were made. I have reasons for feeling that these products are the best for me, and if I felt like going in to a long review I would share them. I'd rather not do that right now.

I think you're using prospective wrong.

Take care.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by rhinocaster

I think you're using prospective wrong.

Take care.

Yes, I should be typing perspective of course.

As far as the rest of you last reply, fair enough, And I say that from a place of sincere respect and not patronizing.

I probably am projecting a lot more anger lately, a lot to do with how I feel about what all is going on with our county/money and our paying for stuff [and our kids paying] for stuff we ought not be. But with out ranting about my core rant I am taking a more extreme position on stuff generally. I surely hope it is not too offensive and I certainly apologize for my lack of control/demeanor/music.

Two things I know: I still think anyone who pays $250 for that bridge is both nuts, and has a lot more resources than I, something I should not hold against them either way I guess.

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by robt57

Yes, I should be typing perspective of course.

As far as the rest of you last reply, fair enough, And I say that from a place of sincere respect and not patronizing.

I probably am projecting a lot more anger lately, a lot to do with how I feel about what all is going on with our county/money and our paying for stuff [and our kids paying] for stuff we ought not be. But with out ranting about my core rant I am taking a more extreme position on stuff generally. I surely hope it is not too offensive and I certainly apologize for my lack of control/demeanor/music.

Two things I know: I still think anyone who pays $250 for that bridge both is nuts and has a lot more resources than I, something I should not hold against them.

I get where you're coming from. I do believe that your intent is to try to help people see past marketing that you feel (Very often correctly) perpetuates "Mojo" and other intangibles that are not provable. I respect and appreciate that.

[teleyouk]

I don't see the big advantage in doing an extra rout to a tele (or making a body with an unusual one) to fit a pickup made to emulate the PAF sound, but precisely with no needs to alter a tele body.
Does the Little 59 have so exceptional qualities to justify that? Installing a standard-sized PAF is definitely less expensive...

[stephent2]

Originally Posted by robt57

But if you base your positive opinion of any such product [as applicable] based on your not wanting to admit to yourself you didn't get what you paid for, then I'd say you meet the criteria for the stereo type.

Prospective being everything, and it is both the money and prospective which matters to the purchaser. But don't think any one at the club or the cockroaches in you wall can hear any difference. But you can't rule it our either.

Wow, like they say on Jerry Springer, "You don't know ME dude". And make no assumptions.

Who should care if I put 20 inch wheels on my MIM Telecaster?

Someone who's pissed at the government I guess, that makes sense.

thanks for minimalizing my total 30 + years of playing / modding and in the last 6 year building about 15 Guitar

Well there you go,... I guess your opinion trumps the guy's who's put together "about" 14 guitars, how about the guy who's built 16?

[Stuco]

Here's my take on it. From what I've read and seen, the gelendale parts seem to be of the highest quality. That being said, I think their prices are absurd. If you have the money and only want the best of the best, then go for it.

[porklash]

I was looking for threads about bridge plates because I believed that´s what I needed to change on my Tele... and after reading some about them here I now know I probably was right!? So now I´ve gotta try to save some money...

But the Strate Plate. Yes it´s too expensive but it´s an idea I´ve had myself. Getting the unwound strings a little bit away from the bridge would in theory be a good thing but you never know before you´ve tried do you? Now it won´t happen. First because of the obvious, I won´t pay that much just to try it out, and I would want one in CRS anyway...

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[TheBear]

I don't understand all of the fuss about the price of precision machined metalwork for your guitar that is the best and will be the best for a lifetime when many of you guys will drop $250 on the latest fad in pickups which you could wind yourself and may end up being old news in a few years.

How many of you have the skill or the access to the materials and machinery to create perfectly cut bridge and saddles?

It is all in the eye in the beholder. Some of us really appreciate quality hardware.

[Vizcaster]

If you walk into a nice cigar store with couches and there's a guy smoking a stick that you could never afford - do you envy or criticize him? If you're into RC airplanes and some guy shows up with a four-engine C30, do you think "Oh, that's over the line"? If somebody in a Ferarri pulls up next to your Miata, do you compare hairlines or do you give him a nod? I have to try to appreciate that in any hobby there are people who are much more into it and have the priorities and good fortune to spend more than I would on it.

I also have no idea what the startup cost is for small batch production of a product like that would be, so maybe it's comparable to having something custom machined (not to mention the value of the design). It's outside my budget of course but it's not necessarily wrong to charge that kind of price.

[V-Man 809]

has anyone tried the titanium one.....now I would be dumb enough to blow serious dosh on that....carbon fibre pick guard.....mmmmmmmm a technical fabric partscaster is being born!