53 tele for sale

littlebigman · January 7th, 2004, 07:32 PM

this is in houston tx at www.rockinrobinguitars.com man i wish i had a little bit of change left for this.

Mark Davis · January 7th, 2004, 07:40 PM

Yes

jvc · January 7th, 2004, 07:42 PM

Oh YEAH, that thing got the mojo!! jvc

darkgable · January 7th, 2004, 09:06 PM

I saw it on gbase last week. For under 8K if everything else checks out it would seem like a great deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it not already sold. I like it , and with a 48 approval or what not maybe it's worth the gamble.

bpoe · January 7th, 2004, 09:23 PM

Every time i see a refin with a price tag like that i think of the guy on TDPRI that got a refin '52 from Elderly Instruments for like 2500 or 3000, just a couple of years ago. Are refins already thrice the price?

Bill · January 7th, 2004, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpoe

Every time i see a refin with a price tag like that i think of the guy on TDPRI that got a refin '52 from Elderly Instruments for like 2500 or 3000, just a couple of years ago. Are refins already thrice the price?

Hee, hee, hee, that's me. And it was thanks to someone here who posted a pointer to it. And it was $2000, with the original case.

Here's a link to it:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...69108740qEEBOU

or

http://www.geocities.com/billbaeck/thegoodlife.jpg

telewiz · January 8th, 2004, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Hee, hee, hee, that's me. And it was thanks to someone here who posted a pointer to it. And it was $2000, with the original case.

Don't laugh with our pain.
I just passed by an offer(?) from a friend in Germany for a '67 in almost twice that price (3500 euro).
I''ll post photos as soon as I get them and ask for your opinions about how good friend of mine he really is

Mr.Bluesbopper · January 8th, 2004, 07:00 AM

prices are definetely out of control these days..
I bought a 58 (non-original neck PU) for $1500 in '96
a refin 53 (planned fretboard, some parts questionable) for $1750,- same year, refin 56 (wrong color) $2000,- in '98, sonic blue refin 68 traded for 52ProAmp in 2001(had 1200 in the amp)...

these days seems to be gone forever (thank you ebay :evil: )

darkgable · January 8th, 2004, 08:40 AM

I agree those days are gone forever , but don't blame ebay. 50's vintage Teles, Strats and Les Pauls have been expensive for quite some time now. The last three years things have gone though the roof because of simple supply vs. demand. Refins are still a great deal if they are not just parts guitars. I don't think this guitar is over priced if the other parts and the neck are right. If all else is correct it's really a great deal , the stock finish is great to look at and for high value sake , it dosen't change the tone or playability which are really the bottom line.

bpoe · January 8th, 2004, 10:41 AM

When did you buy it? Wasn't it just two years ago? I guess it was 1) a refin and 2) the pickguard was not orig?

Mr.Bluesbopper · January 8th, 2004, 10:48 AM

I was referrring to this guitar, indeed it looks like a cool deal

Eppo Franken · January 8th, 2004, 11:33 AM

only USD 7,500.00 ???????

2 or 3 times that price is usually asked here in The Netherlands (Europe) for this kinda guits.........

Should it really be all original....?????????

Eppo

Darrell · January 8th, 2004, 11:49 AM

is one block from my house. I have purchased two tele's from them over the years (I sold one, that I wish I still had). They are the oldest music store in Houston. One thing is for certain, they know their equipment. Most of the guitars they have are usually "pick of the litter". If they say it is original, you could bank on it.

Here is the kicker, they will negotiate and they do take trades. Most of the guys that work there, play professionally, and if the don't, they probably could. Rockin Robin is also the owner of Rio Grande pickups, and is a close partner with custom guitar company. (I forget the name)

Skully · January 8th, 2004, 12:02 PM

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If all else is correct it's really a great deal , the stock finish is great to look at and for high value sake , it dosen't change the tone or playability which are really the bottom line.

But if tone and playability are truly a guitar buyer's primary concerns, it doesn't make sense to drop a couple of grand on a vintage instrument. I guess you're talking about a person who wants a (compromised, from the hardcore collector's standpoint) combination of vintage appeal and tone and playability.

sshan25 · January 8th, 2004, 12:11 PM

I believe that you are talking about Dave Wintz who also has an interest in Robin Guitars, Alamo Guitars and Rio Grande. My Robin Ranger is definitely one of the coolest guitars ever made. Some day they're going to be regarded as one of the grwat guitars of the "modern' era.

darkgable · January 8th, 2004, 12:27 PM

[quote="Skully"]

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If all else is correct it's really a great deal , the stock finish is great to look at and for high value sake , it dosen't change the tone or playability which are really the bottom line.

But if tone and playability are truly a guitar buyer's primary concerns, it doesn't make sense to drop a couple of grand on a vintage instrument. I guess you're talking about a person who wants a (compromised, from the hardcore collector's standpoint) combination of vintage appeal and tone and playability.[/quote

Your correct , if vintage tone, vibe and feel arn't your thing I wouldn't spend it either. It's for the astute vintage buyer that dosen't have unlimited funds , but wants what a great refin has to offer and If I have to explain than you wouldn't understand any way.

logman · January 8th, 2004, 12:28 PM

Dave Wintz owns Robin Guitars, the Guitar manufacturer.

Bart Whitrock owns Rockin' Robin Guitars and Music, the music store and Rio Grande P'cups.

Dave and Bart started Rockin' Robin together in the 70's and parted ways (amicably) when Dave started Robin. I think Robins come standard with Rio Grande P'cups. Dave has nothing to do with the store.

I haven't really shopped there in years, but Darrell is right, they are always willing to deal. But you better be on your toes.

As a side note, Barts brother Tom owned Third Eye Music in Springfield, Mo. And had a sweet collection of 'burst Les Pauls.

logman

Bill · January 8th, 2004, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpoe

When did you buy it? Wasn't it just two years ago? I guess it was 1) a refin and 2) the pickguard was not orig?

Here are the details. . .

I bought it around the summer of 2000. It had been on consignment and someone posted here having seen it on Elderly's Website. I contacted Elderly, but it had just been sold. I really, really wanted that guitar and the nice lady there kindly suggested I keep calling back in case the buyer changed his mind and returned the guitar. I did, he did, and I bought it.

They think it was bought last in the early 70's and refinished around that time, played a little, and then stored. They noted a bunch of issues which brought the cost down:

* Changed pickguard (it's this bizarre 3/16" thick thingy that's black on top and white on the sides, but you know, I've grown to really like it).

* Refinished body in a kind of blond finish, not Tele butterscotch. But it's a decent refinish, and I don't think I'd change it.

* Refinished neck.

* Refretted, but worn frets, and a poor fret job. I spent a couple hundred getting it refretted.

* No decal. A fellow TDPRI'er gave me one free. Thanks!

* Changed tuners, but I believe they're from the early 60's.

* Changed pots probably.

* The knobs I think are original but have been rechromed, I think.

* Original saddles, but they've been chromed (for goodness knows what bizarre reason).

* The screws may or may not be original, don't know, don't care.

* The bridge pickup is a replacement (Texas Special, just cuz that's what Elderly had lying around the shop.) A fellow FDP'er sold me a mid-60's one for $125 that I've installed in its place.

* The front pickup is very odd--it's got an internal short I think. It has a wonderful acoustic sound, but not a lot of output. The main effect of the short is that when I turn down the tone control on it, it just turns down the volume on it. But I like the sound so much, I'm afraid to have it rewound--I might lose the sound along with the fix.

I think that's about it--whew!

It's not a perfect example in the vintage sense, but it plays and sounds great to me, and was very affordable. Certainly no museum is gonna want it. But then I realized that most of my guitar heroes don't play pristine examples either. And that way I don't work about scratches. For instance, if it had been all original with those worn frets, I couldn't have brought myself to get it refretted.

darkgable · January 8th, 2004, 03:24 PM

Bill no offence , but you get what you pay for. I know Stan at Elderly and he dosen't give away ice in the winter. From what you've listed you can by no way compair a guitar with only a body refin with all it's stock parts to the one you have in all due respect.

Bill · January 8th, 2004, 04:32 PM

Hi Darkgable,

I think we may have been speaking past each other...

I wasn't comparing my guitar to a body only refinish, saying that anyone else's guitar is overpriced or mine is underpriced, or anything. I'm only saying that I was very happy with the value I got in buying my guitar. I do rank certain items in order of importance to me, things that affect its tone and playability to me.

So things like a missing decal, or a refinish, or changed screws, replacement vintage style tuners, or the condition of the guitar case doesn't affect the playability or tone (at least in a way that affects me), so I'm happy to have all those issues on my guitars if it lowers the price substantially. If I was a collector, reseller, museum, or just someone who wanted and appreciated an all-original example, that would be different, and I might be willing to pay $8K-30K. It's just that I have a different set of determinants for bang-for-the-buck.

bpoe · January 8th, 2004, 04:44 PM

I got a deal on a very nice '65 VibroChamp only last year for $260. I could not believe the price and just grabbed it.

Darrell · January 9th, 2004, 12:44 PM

I don't know how they do it...but I have seen some awsome amp deals go through there. I didn't move quick enough on either.

January 7th, 2004, 07:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
littlebigman TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: austin Posts: 53	53 tele for sale this is in houston tx at www.rockinrobinguitars.com man i wish i had a little bit of change left for this.

January 8th, 2004, 10:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
bpoe Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 271	Bill...... When did you buy it? Wasn't it just two years ago? I guess it was 1) a refin and 2) the pickguard was not orig?

January 8th, 2004, 11:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Eppo Franken Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Dordrecht, The Netherlands (Europe) Posts: 267	Must be something wrong with this guitar.......... only USD 7,500.00 ??????? 2 or 3 times that price is usually asked here in The Netherlands (Europe) for this kinda guits......... Should it really be all original....????????? Eppo

January 8th, 2004, 11:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
Darrell Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 48 Posts: 2,450	Rockin Robin is one block from my house. I have purchased two tele's from them over the years (I sold one, that I wish I still had). They are the oldest music store in Houston. One thing is for certain, they know their equipment. Most of the guitars they have are usually "pick of the litter". If they say it is original, you could bank on it. Here is the kicker, they will negotiate and they do take trades. Most of the guys that work there, play professionally, and if the don't, they probably could. Rockin Robin is also the owner of Rio Grande pickups, and is a close partner with custom guitar company. (I forget the name) __________________ "Yeap, I like the American Standard Telecaster, I can even live with one a them PCB amps, and I even use one a them mul-tie-effects things too."

January 8th, 2004, 12:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
sshan25 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albion, RI Posts: 125	Rockin' Robin I believe that you are talking about Dave Wintz who also has an interest in Robin Guitars, Alamo Guitars and Rio Grande. My Robin Ranger is definitely one of the coolest guitars ever made. Some day they're going to be regarded as one of the grwat guitars of the "modern' era. __________________ There's no such thing as too many guitars

January 7th, 2004, 07:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 12,259	Yes

January 7th, 2004, 07:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
jvc Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SOCAL Posts: 524	Oh YEAH, that thing got the mojo!! jvc

January 7th, 2004, 09:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
darkgable Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 286	I saw it on gbase last week. For under 8K if everything else checks out it would seem like a great deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it not already sold. I like it , and with a 48 approval or what not maybe it's worth the gamble.

January 7th, 2004, 09:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
bpoe Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 271	Every time i see a refin with a price tag like that i think of the guy on TDPRI that got a refin '52 from Elderly Instruments for like 2500 or 3000, just a couple of years ago. Are refins already thrice the price?

January 8th, 2004, 07:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr.Bluesbopper TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 69	prices are definetely out of control these days.. I bought a 58 (non-original neck PU) for $1500 in '96 a refin 53 (planned fretboard, some parts questionable) for $1750,- same year, refin 56 (wrong color) $2000,- in '98, sonic blue refin 68 traded for 52ProAmp in 2001(had 1200 in the amp)... these days seems to be gone forever (thank you ebay :evil: )

January 8th, 2004, 08:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
darkgable Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 286	I agree those days are gone forever , but don't blame ebay. 50's vintage Teles, Strats and Les Pauls have been expensive for quite some time now. The last three years things have gone though the roof because of simple supply vs. demand. Refins are still a great deal if they are not just parts guitars. I don't think this guitar is over priced if the other parts and the neck are right. If all else is correct it's really a great deal , the stock finish is great to look at and for high value sake , it dosen't change the tone or playability which are really the bottom line.

January 8th, 2004, 10:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mr.Bluesbopper TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 69	I was referrring to this guitar, indeed it looks like a cool deal

January 8th, 2004, 12:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
logman Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 172	Dave Wintz owns Robin Guitars, the Guitar manufacturer. Bart Whitrock owns Rockin' Robin Guitars and Music, the music store and Rio Grande P'cups. Dave and Bart started Rockin' Robin together in the 70's and parted ways (amicably) when Dave started Robin. I think Robins come standard with Rio Grande P'cups. Dave has nothing to do with the store. I haven't really shopped there in years, but Darrell is right, they are always willing to deal. But you better be on your toes. As a side note, Barts brother Tom owned Third Eye Music in Springfield, Mo. And had a sweet collection of 'burst Les Pauls. logman

January 8th, 2004, 03:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
darkgable Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 286	Bill no offence , but you get what you pay for. I know Stan at Elderly and he dosen't give away ice in the winter. From what you've listed you can by no way compair a guitar with only a body refin with all it's stock parts to the one you have in all due respect.

January 8th, 2004, 04:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bill Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,547 56 Photos	Hi Darkgable, I think we may have been speaking past each other... I wasn't comparing my guitar to a body only refinish, saying that anyone else's guitar is overpriced or mine is underpriced, or anything. I'm only saying that I was very happy with the value I got in buying my guitar. I do rank certain items in order of importance to me, things that affect its tone and playability to me. So things like a missing decal, or a refinish, or changed screws, replacement vintage style tuners, or the condition of the guitar case doesn't affect the playability or tone (at least in a way that affects me), so I'm happy to have all those issues on my guitars if it lowers the price substantially. If I was a collector, reseller, museum, or just someone who wanted and appreciated an all-original example, that would be different, and I might be willing to pay $8K-30K. It's just that I have a different set of determinants for bang-for-the-buck. __________________ B i l l B a e c k A journal of our year in London

January 8th, 2004, 04:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
bpoe Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 271	Rockin Robin I got a deal on a very nice '65 VibroChamp only last year for $260. I could not believe the price and just grabbed it.

January 9th, 2004, 12:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
Darrell Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 48 Posts: 2,450	Yes I don't know how they do it...but I have seen some awsome amp deals go through there. I didn't move quick enough on either. __________________ "Yeap, I like the American Standard Telecaster, I can even live with one a them PCB amps, and I even use one a them mul-tie-effects things too."