Since When Was the 2008 CIJ Paisley Alder?

FredDairy · July 17th, 2008, 02:23 AM

Can this be right? I thought the CIJ Paisleys were ALL basswood.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-69-RI-Fe...3286.m14.l1318

Mark Davis · July 17th, 2008, 02:41 AM

The older MIJ ones were basswood but the newest CIJ ones could be Alder.

Buckocaster51 · July 17th, 2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FredDairy

Can this be right? I thought the CIJ Paisleys were ALL basswood.

So...are you going to go for it?

braderrick · July 17th, 2008, 03:57 AM

Hmmm... So THAT"S why my new CIJ paisley strat weighs so much more than my older MIJ tele. I knew it!

sneakyjapan · July 17th, 2008, 04:32 AM

they are still listed as basswood in the 2008 Fender Japan catalog...as they were in 2007, 2006...I could check all the catalogs I have but I`ve never heard of an alder CIJ paisley until now.

Twang Tone · July 17th, 2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sneakyjapan

they are still listed as basswood in the 2008 Fender Japan catalog...as they were in 2007, 2006...I could check all the catalogs I have but I`ve never heard of an alder CIJ paisley until now.

That's what I believed, too. I always wondered at how they could cost so much when they just had basswood bodies and standard Japanese pickups - I guess it's all to do with the color!

If they do decide to make them from alder rather than basswood, then I guess that would be more historically accurate, but wouldn't that push the price up even more?

Thanks,

Mark Davis · July 17th, 2008, 08:13 AM

Ive heard the ones that Fender has made to be shipped to the USA have different specs than the ones that are sold only in Japan Fender claims they are made to their specs which is also why some might be alder and some might be basswood. Basswood is almost always quite a bit lighter in weight than alder is.

One thing for sure there are so many MIJ/CIJ's made its really hard to say all of them are one wood or the other cause they can be special order items or Fender USA might tell Fender Japan to make the ones they want a certain way makes it confusing for sure.

I do know when they sent over those Blue Flower ones around the early 2000's those were basswood for sure.

Here is the link from Fender Japan which does show the Japanese ones are basswood.

http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/fender/...69bfl_psly.htm

Maybe a call or email to Fender customer service will give us a better answer.

After I looked at the ad the neck pocket does look like basswood alder is more reddish but the weight would indicate alder.

Compare these pics to that neck pocket and see what you guys think.

http://www.mijguitar.com/Templates/G...dy%20Woods.htm

e-merlin · July 17th, 2008, 10:34 AM

Man, I want that! Being broke sucks. Any guesses on what that'll go for? $250-300?

chet · July 17th, 2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

So...are you going to go for it?

He already has one. He posted a pic of hmself onstage with it the other day.

Buckocaster51 · July 17th, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chet

He already has one. He posted a pic of hmself onstage with it the other day.

Very true...but there is nothing wrong with having another.

Not every day has an "R" in it.

FredDairy · July 17th, 2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Very true...but there is nothing wrong with having another.

Not every day has an "R" in it.

Ha, yeah I'd love a 2nd, but mines a 2008 as well and it's gotta be basswood it's 6.5 pounds all put together. All the other ebay listings for the new 2008 Paisleys say basswood.

Mark that's an excellent link. That neck pocket to me looks basswood after looking at those pictures.

FredDairy · July 17th, 2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twang Tone

That's what I believed, too. I always wondered at how they could cost so much when they just had basswood bodies and standard Japanese pickups - I guess it's all to do with the color!

If they do decide to make them from alder rather than basswood, then I guess that would be more historically accurate, but wouldn't that push the price up even more?

Thanks,

I think they are just expensive because of the finish. I've seen older MIJ ones go for over a grand on ebay. Which I always believed was ridiculous for a basswood guitar. Until I got this one. You couldn't tell this guitar apart from my one piece swamp ash partscaster on a record.

Plus the only USA signature tele made of basswood is none other than Telecaster God James Burton's guitar.

kylef · July 17th, 2008, 06:49 PM

tbh guys....

i recently bought a blue flower tele body, one of the 2008 re-issues, from the stratosphere (same seller as that), and its the exact same as my CIJ paisley from 2002.

same look, same feel, same colour, same weight. i think its just the stratosphere putting down alder becuase they think its alder. i am positive its basswood though.

i have an alder CIJ tele aswell btw....totally different.

sneakyjapan · July 17th, 2008, 10:50 PM

theres a used one in the Ishibashi U-Box right now...it`s the blue floral.

beep.click · July 17th, 2008, 11:24 PM

For all I care, they could make the bodies out of pasteurized processed hyena farts -- I have an '08, and it's an amazing Tele.

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sneakyjapan Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nippon Posts: 2,475 3 Photos	they are still listed as basswood in the 2008 Fender Japan catalog...as they were in 2007, 2006...I could check all the catalogs I have but I`ve never heard of an alder CIJ paisley until now. __________________ quasi mojo

July 17th, 2008, 08:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,745	Ive heard the ones that Fender has made to be shipped to the USA have different specs than the ones that are sold only in Japan Fender claims they are made to their specs which is also why some might be alder and some might be basswood. Basswood is almost always quite a bit lighter in weight than alder is. One thing for sure there are so many MIJ/CIJ's made its really hard to say all of them are one wood or the other cause they can be special order items or Fender USA might tell Fender Japan to make the ones they want a certain way makes it confusing for sure. I do know when they sent over those Blue Flower ones around the early 2000's those were basswood for sure. Here is the link from Fender Japan which does show the Japanese ones are basswood. http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/fender/...69bfl_psly.htm Maybe a call or email to Fender customer service will give us a better answer. After I looked at the ad the neck pocket does look like basswood alder is more reddish but the weight would indicate alder. Compare these pics to that neck pocket and see what you guys think. http://www.mijguitar.com/Templates/G...dy%20Woods.htm __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

July 17th, 2008, 10:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
sneakyjapan Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nippon Posts: 2,475 3 Photos	theres a used one in the Ishibashi U-Box right now...it`s the blue floral. __________________ quasi mojo

July 17th, 2008, 03:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
braderrick Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kentucky Age: 25 Posts: 550	Hmmm... So THAT"S why my new CIJ paisley strat weighs so much more than my older MIJ tele. I knew it!

July 17th, 2008, 06:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
kylef Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: cowdenbeath, fife Posts: 205	tbh guys.... i recently bought a blue flower tele body, one of the 2008 re-issues, from the stratosphere (same seller as that), and its the exact same as my CIJ paisley from 2002. same look, same feel, same colour, same weight. i think its just the stratosphere putting down alder becuase they think its alder. i am positive its basswood though. i have an alder CIJ tele aswell btw....totally different.

July 17th, 2008, 11:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
beep.click Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California Age: 49 Posts: 1,914	For all I care, they could make the bodies out of pasteurized processed hyena farts -- I have an '08, and it's an amazing Tele. __________________ "It looked like a giant green gum drop to me."