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Old July 12th, 2008, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mojo Mutt - my new Tele

Join me now on a voyage of discovery. I’m going to need your help. I picked up a “new” to Telecaster from a local Pawn Shop.

I’ve already named it the “Mojo Mutt” because of the Butt Ugly tone control knob and the Humbucker hole in the three-ply pickguard that looks like it was opened up with a blast from a .410 shotgun. The mystery unfolds as we examine a few of the “Before” shots and we try to see if I’m the Windshield or the Bug in this deal.

The control plate is kind of interesting. Of course the Big Knob. I like big Knobs on my girlfriends but on my Tele? It is actually kind of cool once I played it. When I first saw it, it about made my breakfast come back up.


Here is what we know so far. I plugged it in and if sounds amazing. If I could only play well enough to do it justice. Secondly it weighs in at a little over nine pounds. It has a solid brass bridge. The neck is a no skunk-stripe rosewood board with Gianormous Stainless steel frets. Looks to be a bone nut in nice shape. The fret side markers are also stainless steel. The dots are pearl. No decal on the headstock with only one “bat-wing” string tree.The body is a string-thru and the ferrules are not flush with the surface.

The back of the body shows many battle scars with a belt buckle leading me to believe this guitar was once owned by Chris LeDoux or Garth Brooks. It has one strap-lock button on the front and some other non-matching button on the back.
Now some clues to the original date of the guitar. The Neck Plate with and F the number 166239 F-Series (late 1965 to mid-1976)


After CBS took over Fender changed the neck plates once again. This time, probably in a corporate branding effort, a large Fender script "F" was added to the neck plate below the serial number. F Series guitars are generally considered CBS Fenders... though most collectors will value all 1965 Fenders similarly to Pre-CBS (the sale was consummated in early February, 1965)
100000 to 110000 = late 1965
110000 to 200000 = 1966
180000 to 210000 = 1967
210000 to 250000 = 1968
250000 to 280000 = 1969
280000 to 300000 = 1970
300000 to 330000 = 1971
330000 to 370000 = 1972
370000 to 520000 = 1973
500000 to 580000 = 1974
580000 to 690000 = 1975
690000 to 750000 = 1976 Hmmmm?

The Deluxe Tuners feel great but the two rear-most tuners are different and may be the older ones since they have the hole down the center.


The controls are not solid shaft but the don’t pop or crackle and they work great. Of course the switch tip is missing but what about the extra toggle switch? I can’t really tell anything is happening when I throw the switch so I’ll have to check into that soon. The control plate shows a little age but it has not been on this guitar since 1966, I’m pretty sure about that.

The body is beautiful, in my opinion. Arlo? Are you out there? Not a one piece but three pieces of wood with a great grain and color.

The socket? Looks like the good one. No "flat spot" on the rear bout.

The Bridge and saddles? Obviously Brass and bent and not cast. Anybody know who made it? The pickups? Hey it sounds amazing so I’m happy for the moment. They do look a bit askew and as I said the three-ply pick guard route is yucky, but those things are easily fixed.

Okay your turn. Did I buy a Pig in a Poke? hey, it did come with a Gig bag worth about four dollars.

The mystery unfolds. Should I pop the control plate or the pick guard and see what “lies” beneath?



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Old July 12th, 2008, 04:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old July 12th, 2008, 04:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I like the overall vibe of it. How much did it set you back? Open it up for sure.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 05:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The Bridge PUP bobbin looks more Strat size, than Tele.

I wonder if the mini toggle shorts the wire between the HB coils to give you a single coil neck tone.. Plug-er in and flip it and tap the pole with a small screw driver or something.

Can you give us some samples, love to hear her...
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Old July 12th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I like it.....I with Robt57...love to hear it. That knob looks to be off a Welder or maybe an old radio....open it up....Cool git!!
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I'm liking it, it has a cool factor. Not sure about the big knob though, is it a double operation knob? It looks like the flat bottom bit should turn separately to the top.

Looks like swamp ash with a light stain?

How much did you pay for it?
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Old July 12th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Interesting .......... Have you had the neck off to see if it's a '66 Fender neck?

Let me know if you ever want to sell those saddles.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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HOW MUCH $?$ ;)
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Old July 12th, 2008, 07:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Jeez, I'd love to get a hold of that bridge. Cool find.
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New Knobs and clean-up

I fixed the strap button mis-match, cleaned her up a little and added my favorite knobs and a switch tip. Now this is more like it.






The brass saddles aren't for sale but you can make me an offer on the Big Black knob.

I did the "Tap" test and the toggle switch does not change anything. It has a three position switch that goes bridge-/-bridge/humbucker-/-humbucker

Who Makes that Bridge?
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Those saddles look like some that John Mann makes (Mannmade Bridges)...also Fender had some all Brass accessory Parts in the early 80s ???
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Ah ............ mis-matched tuners. How about a look at the back of the headstock. I could compare it to my '66 ............ or course you could remove the neck.

This picture appears to show the large radius on the lower rear of the headstock below the bass tuners

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AHhh!! LOOKS so Much better.....

Have you pulled the neck by any chance...for some reason I am thinking Boogie Body or Dimarzio after market neck.I'm probally wrong.
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Back of the Headstock pic



Ouch - Looks like a little bend on one of the tuners.

I'm on it.

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OMG ........ someone here is older than I.
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Really nice find!
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The Bridge PUP bobbin looks more Strat size, than Tele....
+1. I bet if you pull the bridge you'll find a Strat pickup glued to a plate of some sort. Those are some big polepieces, though. Almost looks like a SD Quarter Pounder. After looking a bit longer, I wonder if it was the original neck pickup?

And I think robt57 nailed the extra toggle switch. Coil cut for the 'bucker. I think the pots have been replaced and that knob looks like it came off a radio or an amp.

I think that bridge was home made with some of those 70s brass Strat saddles.

But enough of what I think. I would like to see some pics of the "guts."
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That tele just looks like its dripping character, seems like a good mystery.

Actually, I really liked the big knob, I was thinking get a regular jazz bass knob for the other pot.
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Very cool, that one has personality. It will be fun to watch the journey of discovery on this guitar.
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More Later....

I have to get cleaned up to go to Antone's Home of the Blues to Stalk Carolyn Wonderland and catch Doyle Bramhall II tonight.

http://www.carolynwonderland.com/

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