New Project: A Pair of Thinlines

Ironwolf · July 1st, 2008, 05:45 PM

I'm waiting for the lacquer to cure on my twelve string, so I've started my next build project; a pair of Thinlines for myself and my niece.

Here's the first picture of the various body parts.

The bodies are a composite design, laminated pine table tops for the center sections, Baltic birch voidless plywood (3/8") for the bottoms, and 1/4" book matched flame maple for the tops. The center sections are 1 3/8" thick to give the bodies a full 2" when assembled. Both will be double bound with bound F holes. My mock ups follow.

Wish me luck!

jwells393 · July 1st, 2008, 05:51 PM

Cool ............. Interesting sawdust minimalization technique.

I'm hoping the pink one is for your niece.

Nick JD · July 1st, 2008, 06:55 PM

Me likey the green one! What about a flamed veneer on the headstock also in matching green?

e-merlin · July 1st, 2008, 08:33 PM

Nice. I like 'em both.

Ironwolf · July 2nd, 2008, 04:15 PM

Some more work done last night and today.

The body for the green one assembled and trim routed. Lots of hand sanding to do then route the "f" hole and PUs. Given the materials, it's heavier than I expected at 4.5 lbs. I imagine at least part of that is due to the extra 1/4 inch thickness.

The pink one is getting it's bottom glued on.

I had an interesting thought. Given the composite construction, if they end up sounding really good, where does the "tone" come from?

A question: Does anyone have a template that shows the control cavity route for this kind of thinline? I'd appreciate anything that can be provided.

RichardM · July 2nd, 2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironwolf

...........I had an interesting thought. Given the composite construction, if they end up sounding really good, where does the "tone" come from?..............

Where it ALWAYS comes from. The pickups and amp.

Ironwolf · July 2nd, 2008, 09:55 PM

Does anyone have information relating to how Warmoth's thinline pickguards fit a standard tele body?

Also, does anyone have a template or know a source of a template for the pickguard?

jwells393 · July 2nd, 2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

A question: Does anyone have a template that shows the control cavity route for this kind of thinline? I'd appreciate anything that can be provided.

No template but I do have this picture. It would probably be a good idea to get a '69 Thinline pickguard before you cut the hole.

......

Ironwolf · July 3rd, 2008, 12:26 AM

Well, I just went ahead and ordered a Warmoth pickguard, if nothing else it will help me make a template if I have to. On the otherhand, it might work just fine.

Ironwolf · July 4th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Both bodies are assembled, run around the router table (first time I've used one, definitely won't be the last) and rough sanded.

Here they are with 9 week old Montgomery admiring my work (riiiight), his brother, Patton, didn't want to stay on the table long enough to get in the shot.

Some more hand sanding around the outside then route for pickups, 'f' holes and maybe necks. I'm going to use AllParts necks this time, but I have a really nice template for the MM neck I used on my first build. Does anyone know if an AllParts neck will fit a pocket routed for an MM without any heavy mods? If the AllParts neck is bigger I can sand or re-route the pockets, but if it's smaller I don't want to do anything until I have one of the necks in hand.

Ironwolf · July 4th, 2008, 07:54 PM

A lot of work today. A little work with a file and a piece of rolled up sand paper and I can start doing the bindings.

Patton showed up for the photo this time.

Colt W. Knight · July 4th, 2008, 08:03 PM

Hey Ironwolf, did you ever decide on how you were going to pink your nieces tele?

Ironwolf · July 4th, 2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt W. Knight

Hey Ironwolf, did you ever decide on how you were going to pink your nieces tele?

I went to Home Depot with a sample stick and had them mix me some "Wood Rose" stain. It's pretty much as close a match as you can get to the pink lacquer the rest of the body will have, and if there is any difference, the separation by the binding will keep it from being noticeable.

Colt W. Knight · July 4th, 2008, 08:53 PM

excellent!

Ironwolf · July 5th, 2008, 11:48 AM

Got the green one bound last night. I'll do the pink one tonight, then I'll lay off for 2 or 3 days while I polish, buff out, and assemble the Zodiac build.

I misspoke in an earlier post. The kittens are 12 weeks old, not 9.

Telenator · July 5th, 2008, 01:19 PM

Nice project! I love seeing this kind of stuff.

studio1087 · July 5th, 2008, 01:22 PM

I am always humbled when I see great work & skill like this.

I can build one hell of a bird house.

They look really nice.

John

Ironwolf · July 13th, 2008, 11:43 PM

Warning! Do not, repeat, do not waste your money and time with Minwax's water based stains.

On hardwoods like maple they don't soak into the wood; they just sit on the top and pile up like a layer of latex paint. If you let it sit on the wood for more than about 2 minutes before wiping it off, it dries and turns into a gummy mess. If you wipe it off while it is still wet enough to wipe, it will not have stained the wood.

After spending 2 hours trying to impart some color to the front of the pink thinline with no success, I put an even layer of the stain on and I'll let it dry in the garage till tomorrow evening. I'll try to sand it down to semi- transparency with 600 grit paper, but I have a hunch Maddy's guitar is going to end up with a pink lacquered top.

Ironwolf · July 14th, 2008, 11:20 PM

After sanding all the Minwax goop off the top of the guitar body, I mixed up a batch of Scarlet wood dye in hot water and squirted a large dollop of MIXOL Oxide White Universal Tint into it and mixed thoroughly. Viola! Hot pink wood die! And it has done a fantastic job of dyeing the top. Once I get it cleaned up and locked with some lacquer, I'll provide some pictures of the two tops. The green one looks excellent and it appears the pink one will to.

Ironwolf · July 19th, 2008, 01:49 PM

Well the pink one didn't turn out well after all. The grain pattern doesn't show well enough to make up for the flaws in the wood that do show, so Maddy's tele well be a solid pink. The green dye process worked exceptionally well however.

I don't know if it's because of a different formulation in the plastic, or what, but I can say that the black binding was much harder to apply than the white was.

I have a pickguard, an Allparts 22 fret neck, a set of pickups and a Gotoh bridge on hand so I'm going to start fitting parts and drilling holes next; Then I can start the finishing job.

Building two at a time like this is pretty interesting, because you can run the job kind of like an assembly line.

jwells393 · July 19th, 2008, 03:37 PM

Did you bind those F-holes? If so did you use the really thin stuff?

Ironwolf · July 19th, 2008, 03:45 PM

Yes, they are bound with the .25 x .040 strips.

Ironwolf · July 19th, 2008, 05:26 PM

Just finished making jigs for the string-through and bridge mounting holes. We'll find out shortly whether or not they work.

scubadoo · July 19th, 2008, 06:18 PM

Looking really good. I just started my thinline yesterday, possibly a bit ambitious for my second build but i like a challenge.

Ironwolf · July 19th, 2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by scubadoo

Looking really good. I just started my thinline yesterday, possibly a bit ambitious for my second build but i like a challenge.

These are only my third and fourth, and my second had a bound f-hole. Go for it; it's not like your building them for a customer. You learn as you go.

Ironwolf · July 19th, 2008, 07:56 PM

The jigs worked about as well as could be expected. The backside ferrule holes aren't perfect, but they're awfully close. Its probably not possible to do better without a full size drillpress.

Ironwolf · July 19th, 2008, 11:05 PM

Done for the day. Bored the neck mounting holes and counter-sunk for neck ferrules then bored the holes for the jacks. Next I'll trim up the neck pockets and we're ready for lacquer.

Stoked · July 20th, 2008, 01:19 AM

Cool stuff Ironwolf! That binding is going to look great when the project's finished. I like your cats too. :)

Ironwolf · July 20th, 2008, 03:04 PM

I did a little sanding on my neck pocket template to match the Allparts neck, then trim routed the neck pockets. Perfect. These are coming together with fewer problems than the first two builds I did.

Here's a rough Idea of how the green one will look. I didn't lay the bridge in place since it's black, meant for Maddy's guitar.

andy__woods · July 20th, 2008, 03:07 PM

looks solid!

Ironwolf · July 20th, 2008, 08:16 PM

Had to break and do the weekly grocery shopping (ch#!*t on a crutch, the prices are going up!). I masked the green one's binding and mounted a paint stick. I'm currently brushing on several thick coats of waterbased sanding sealer along the sides. Once they are sanded level and smooth, I should have a good hard surface to apply the primer and color coats to. When the sealer on this one dries I'll mount pinky on the stick and give it the same treatment.

Ironwolf · August 2nd, 2008, 03:10 PM

The color coats are on the green one and its hanging in the heat of the garage for a day or two, then I'll sand it nice 'n purty and scrape the bindings.

While it's cooking I'm masking the bindings on the pink one. I'm hoping to shoot it's color tomorrow. By the way, using auto pinstriping tape for masking, a tip I picked up here, seems to work extremely well.

Ironwolf · August 3rd, 2008, 02:16 AM

Got the pink one masked and shot the first couple of coats of pink lacquer. Its hanging over night and will get several more coats tomorrow. Its an interesting light pink called "Simply Pink". Its going to take quite a few coats to cover all the wood grain.

scubadoo · August 3rd, 2008, 05:31 AM

lookin' really good Ironwolf, I love the green with the rosewood neck.

Ironwolf · August 3rd, 2008, 11:16 PM

Well I got the color on both of them; now I'll let them cook off in the garage till Wednesday or so (it gets well over 100 degrees in there this time of year) then I'll wet sand the color for a nice smooth base and they'll be ready for clear coating.

Ironwolf · August 8th, 2008, 11:49 PM

Well, I stripped the masking and got the back wet sanded on the green one before dark. Tomorrow I'll finish wet sanding then scrape the bindings and it's ready for the clear lacquer.

I believe I've figured out how to put a little 'snap' into the pink one's body. I'm going to try to embed a little bit of 'stripper dust' in the clear; just enough to give it a little bit of sparkle.

robt57 · August 9th, 2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironwolf

I believe I've figured out how to put a little 'snap' into the pink ones body. I'm going to try to embed a little bit of 'stripper dust in the clear; just enough to give it a little bit of sparkle.

I think the trick with flame and light tints it to run black over and then sand it before putting the lighter color on. The black sticks in the flame, and between goes back to nude wood and takes the lighter color on for a pop of the flame and a good contrast. just saying...

I learned this a long time ago and all but forgot before I saw that vid in the Burst Thread here recently. If you've got lacquer on it, I thnk it would be worth the trouble to back up a bit for this effect.

Just saying

Ironwolf · August 9th, 2008, 11:03 AM

I tried that when I "dyed" it pink. I used a very dark red first and sanded back leaving the "flame" in the grain standing out. The problem seemed to be that when the pink dye was mixed and used, the red dye component would soak in and stain the wood, but the white pigment component just sat on top like a thin whitewash paint. The resulting color was wrong and showed the wood's flaws very well but almost no flame. But, on the other hand the wood didn't have that much flame to start with. I've repainted the pink body with a darker 'Ballet Slipper Pink' that looks better than the pink in the hanging photo.

robt57 · August 9th, 2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironwolf

I've repainted the pink body with a darker 'Ballet Slipper Pink' that looks better than the pink in the hanging photo.

Don't make me beg.

Ironwolf · August 17th, 2008, 07:23 PM

I've got about 8 coats of deft on this one (I'm currently planning on calling it TeleZilla. It's that or the IguanaCaster.) I wet sand the surfaces after every fifth coat. You can see scuff marks where I've finger sanded out surface contaminants from the previous coat; it's not elegant but it works.

Here it hangs next to the MaddyCaster which is simply cooking in the heat. I'll start sanding, scraping and shooting clear on it later this week.
It's currently 105 degrees in the garage, and the hottest part of the day is still about an hour and a half away. Its a great place to cure lacquer.

I have all the MaddyCaster's hardware and parts on hand and the headstock of it's neck painted pink, so it will be the first one finished, even though the green one's body is a little further along.

July 1st, 2008, 05:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	New Build Project: A Pair of Thinlines I'm waiting for the lacquer to cure on my twelve string, so I've started my next build project; a pair of Thinlines for myself and my niece. Here's the first picture of the various body parts. The bodies are a composite design, laminated pine table tops for the center sections, Baltic birch voidless plywood (3/8") for the bottoms, and 1/4" book matched flame maple for the tops. The center sections are 1 3/8" thick to give the bodies a full 2" when assembled. Both will be double bound with bound F holes. My mock ups follow. Wish me luck! __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; December 27th, 2008 at 12:03 PM.

July 1st, 2008, 05:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 65 Posts: 13,964 101 Photos	Cool ............. Interesting sawdust minimalization technique. I'm hoping the pink one is for your niece. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ I'm not cool enough to be a Mac person.

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Nick JD Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: North NSW, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 4,172	Me likey the green one! What about a flamed veneer on the headstock also in matching green? __________________

July 2nd, 2008, 04:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Some more work done last night and today. The body for the green one assembled and trim routed. Lots of hand sanding to do then route the "f" hole and PUs. Given the materials, it's heavier than I expected at 4.5 lbs. I imagine at least part of that is due to the extra 1/4 inch thickness. The pink one is getting it's bottom glued on. I had an interesting thought. Given the composite construction, if they end up sounding really good, where does the "tone" come from? A question: Does anyone have a template that shows the control cavity route for this kind of thinline? I'd appreciate anything that can be provided. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; July 2nd, 2008 at 08:24 PM.

July 2nd, 2008, 09:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Does anyone have information relating to how Warmoth's thinline pickguards fit a standard tele body? Also, does anyone have a template or know a source of a template for the pickguard? __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 3rd, 2008, 12:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Well, I just went ahead and ordered a Warmoth pickguard, if nothing else it will help me make a template if I have to. On the otherhand, it might work just fine. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 4th, 2008, 12:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Both bodies are assembled, run around the router table (first time I've used one, definitely won't be the last) and rough sanded. Here they are with 9 week old Montgomery admiring my work (riiiight), his brother, Patton, didn't want to stay on the table long enough to get in the shot. Some more hand sanding around the outside then route for pickups, 'f' holes and maybe necks. I'm going to use AllParts necks this time, but I have a really nice template for the MM neck I used on my first build. Does anyone know if an AllParts neck will fit a pocket routed for an MM without any heavy mods? If the AllParts neck is bigger I can sand or re-route the pockets, but if it's smaller I don't want to do anything until I have one of the necks in hand. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 4th, 2008, 07:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	A lot of work today. A little work with a file and a piece of rolled up sand paper and I can start doing the bindings. Patton showed up for the photo this time. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 4th, 2008, 08:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 25 Posts: 3,587	Hey Ironwolf, did you ever decide on how you were going to pink your nieces tele?

July 4th, 2008, 08:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Colt W. Knight Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 25 Posts: 3,587	excellent!

July 5th, 2008, 11:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Got the green one bound last night. I'll do the pink one tonight, then I'll lay off for 2 or 3 days while I polish, buff out, and assemble the Zodiac build. I misspoke in an earlier post. The kittens are 12 weeks old, not 9. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 5th, 2008, 01:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
Telenator VENDOR Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,812	Nice project! I love seeing this kind of stuff. __________________ Dogs have the right idea! www.telenator.com

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studio1087 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2003 Location: Near Milwaukee Age: 45 Posts: 5,365 34 Photos	I am always humbled when I see great work & skill like this. I can build one hell of a bird house. They look really nice. John __________________ JLG Carry On

July 13th, 2008, 11:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Warning! Do not, repeat, do not waste your money and time with Minwax's water based stains. On hardwoods like maple they don't soak into the wood; they just sit on the top and pile up like a layer of latex paint. If you let it sit on the wood for more than about 2 minutes before wiping it off, it dries and turns into a gummy mess. If you wipe it off while it is still wet enough to wipe, it will not have stained the wood. After spending 2 hours trying to impart some color to the front of the pink thinline with no success, I put an even layer of the stain on and I'll let it dry in the garage till tomorrow evening. I'll try to sand it down to semi- transparency with 600 grit paper, but I have a hunch Maddy's guitar is going to end up with a pink lacquered top. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; July 14th, 2008 at 10:22 AM.

July 14th, 2008, 11:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Pink top problem solved! After sanding all the Minwax goop off the top of the guitar body, I mixed up a batch of Scarlet wood dye in hot water and squirted a large dollop of MIXOL Oxide White Universal Tint into it and mixed thoroughly. Viola! Hot pink wood die! And it has done a fantastic job of dyeing the top. Once I get it cleaned up and locked with some lacquer, I'll provide some pictures of the two tops. The green one looks excellent and it appears the pink one will to. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; July 14th, 2008 at 11:59 PM.

July 19th, 2008, 01:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Well the pink one didn't turn out well after all. The grain pattern doesn't show well enough to make up for the flaws in the wood that do show, so Maddy's tele well be a solid pink. The green dye process worked exceptionally well however. I don't know if it's because of a different formulation in the plastic, or what, but I can say that the black binding was much harder to apply than the white was. I have a pickguard, an Allparts 22 fret neck, a set of pickups and a Gotoh bridge on hand so I'm going to start fitting parts and drilling holes next; Then I can start the finishing job. Building two at a time like this is pretty interesting, because you can run the job kind of like an assembly line. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; July 19th, 2008 at 03:47 PM.

July 19th, 2008, 03:37 PM	#21 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 65 Posts: 13,964 101 Photos	Did you bind those F-holes? If so did you use the really thin stuff? __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ I'm not cool enough to be a Mac person.

July 19th, 2008, 03:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Yes, they are bound with the .25 x .040 strips. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; August 9th, 2008 at 11:12 AM.

July 19th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Just finished making jigs for the string-through and bridge mounting holes. We'll find out shortly whether or not they work. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 19th, 2008, 06:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
scubadoo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,317	Looking really good. I just started my thinline yesterday, possibly a bit ambitious for my second build but i like a challenge.

July 19th, 2008, 07:56 PM	#26 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	The jigs worked about as well as could be expected. The backside ferrule holes aren't perfect, but they're awfully close. Its probably not possible to do better without a full size drillpress. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; July 19th, 2008 at 11:57 PM.

July 19th, 2008, 11:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Done for the day. Bored the neck mounting holes and counter-sunk for neck ferrules then bored the holes for the jacks. Next I'll trim up the neck pockets and we're ready for lacquer. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 20th, 2008, 01:19 AM	#28 (permalink)
Stoked Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Age: 21 Posts: 185 13 Photos	Cool stuff Ironwolf! That binding is going to look great when the project's finished. I like your cats too. :)

July 20th, 2008, 03:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	I did a little sanding on my neck pocket template to match the Allparts neck, then trim routed the neck pockets. Perfect. These are coming together with fewer problems than the first two builds I did. Here's a rough Idea of how the green one will look. I didn't lay the bridge in place since it's black, meant for Maddy's guitar. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

July 20th, 2008, 03:07 PM	#30 (permalink)
andy__woods Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 24 Posts: 1,205 60 Photos	looks solid! __________________ -- Andy "Woods" Crowder --

July 20th, 2008, 08:16 PM	#31 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Had to break and do the weekly grocery shopping (ch#!*t on a crutch, the prices are going up!). I masked the green one's binding and mounted a paint stick. I'm currently brushing on several thick coats of waterbased sanding sealer along the sides. Once they are sanded level and smooth, I should have a good hard surface to apply the primer and color coats to. When the sealer on this one dries I'll mount pinky on the stick and give it the same treatment. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

August 2nd, 2008, 03:10 PM	#32 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	The color coats are on the green one and its hanging in the heat of the garage for a day or two, then I'll sand it nice 'n purty and scrape the bindings. While it's cooking I'm masking the bindings on the pink one. I'm hoping to shoot it's color tomorrow. By the way, using auto pinstriping tape for masking, a tip I picked up here, seems to work extremely well. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; August 4th, 2008 at 09:01 AM.

August 3rd, 2008, 02:16 AM	#33 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Got the pink one masked and shot the first couple of coats of pink lacquer. Its hanging over night and will get several more coats tomorrow. Its an interesting light pink called "Simply Pink". Its going to take quite a few coats to cover all the wood grain. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

August 3rd, 2008, 05:31 AM	#34 (permalink)
scubadoo Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,317	lookin' really good Ironwolf, I love the green with the rosewood neck.

August 3rd, 2008, 11:16 PM	#35 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Well I got the color on both of them; now I'll let them cook off in the garage till Wednesday or so (it gets well over 100 degrees in there this time of year) then I'll wet sand the color for a nice smooth base and they'll be ready for clear coating. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; November 13th, 2008 at 07:58 PM.

August 8th, 2008, 11:49 PM	#36 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Well, I stripped the masking and got the back wet sanded on the green one before dark. Tomorrow I'll finish wet sanding then scrape the bindings and it's ready for the clear lacquer. I believe I've figured out how to put a little 'snap' into the pink one's body. I'm going to try to embed a little bit of 'stripper dust' in the clear; just enough to give it a little bit of sparkle. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; November 13th, 2008 at 07:59 PM.

August 9th, 2008, 11:03 AM	#38 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	I tried that when I "dyed" it pink. I used a very dark red first and sanded back leaving the "flame" in the grain standing out. The problem seemed to be that when the pink dye was mixed and used, the red dye component would soak in and stain the wood, but the white pigment component just sat on top like a thin whitewash paint. The resulting color was wrong and showed the wood's flaws very well but almost no flame. But, on the other hand the wood didn't have that much flame to start with. I've repainted the pink body with a darker 'Ballet Slipper Pink' that looks better than the pink in the hanging photo. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar

August 17th, 2008, 07:23 PM	#40 (permalink)
Ironwolf Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 53 Posts: 1,148	Shooting Deft I've got about 8 coats of deft on this one (I'm currently planning on calling it TeleZilla. It's that or the IguanaCaster.) I wet sand the surfaces after every fifth coat. You can see scuff marks where I've finger sanded out surface contaminants from the previous coat; it's not elegant but it works. Here it hangs next to the MaddyCaster which is simply cooking in the heat. I'll start sanding, scraping and shooting clear on it later this week. It's currently 105 degrees in the garage, and the hottest part of the day is still about an hour and a half away. Its a great place to cure lacquer. I have all the MaddyCaster's hardware and parts on hand and the headstock of it's neck painted pink, so it will be the first one finished, even though the green one's body is a little further along. __________________ Oderint Dum Metuant - Nero Caesar Last edited by Ironwolf; August 17th, 2008 at 11:52 PM.