NEW! Squier Classic Vibe 50's Telecaster! - Page 8

alexpigment · June 8th, 2008, 01:29 AM

you make it sound so easy.... in my head i just imagine bubbles and lumps and color differences. oh man, i'm such a worrier

telemomo · June 8th, 2008, 01:45 AM

After my recent (and only) experience with a new Squire Deluxe Strat I "stole" for $85 off Ebay, I am going to pass on Squires for the next 100 years or so.

It was a beautiful Daphne Blue, but it could not stay in tune for a full 60 seconds. The Dimarzio Design pups were pathetic too. The guitar sounded very, very tinny and thin like a toy through my Tophat Club Deluxe.

I refer to my Squire Deluxe in past tense because all that is left is the body. I poured over $500 into it (Glendale Chimemaster, Allparts FAT neck, bone nut, Gohto tuners, Texas Specials, CTS pots) and it will still only be a fair Strat at best after it is sorted out better.

I envy you guys that get Squires to play and sound to your satisfaction. I have settled on the fact that (for me) Fender MIJ/CIJ's will give me that "fix" I am looking for when I have the urge to buy another guitar. Thank GOD for Fender Japan!

Mike

PJ · June 8th, 2008, 01:46 AM

Logo's fine by me. I was more interested to see what a "Synthetic Bone" nut is. Must be the injection-molded nuts, like Tusq-brand?

kp8 · June 8th, 2008, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ

Logo's fine by me. I was more interested to see what a "Synthetic Bone" nut is. Must be the injection-molded nuts, like Tusq-brand?

hope it is better than the nuts they been using.

PJ · June 8th, 2008, 02:05 AM

KP...+1. Has to be better than what I've seen in the past. And hopefully cut correctly (although that's a pretty easy fix with the right tools).

alexpigment · June 8th, 2008, 02:07 AM

KP+2 has anyone ever heard of that type of nut before? it was a first for me

GilJanus · June 8th, 2008, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp8

hope it is better than the nuts they been using.

Synthetic Bone Nut are the same words used in the specs for the Fender Classic Series '50s and '60s Telecasters.

Squier has not used this term on any of their other guitars - just the Classic Vibe Series.

Gil

Mark Davis · June 8th, 2008, 02:14 AM

Ive never seen a good nut on any Fender most are plastic.

ajgus · June 8th, 2008, 02:20 AM

Thanks for posting, builder. Anyone have an idea when this line will available at my local GC? I'd love to love to play one...

PJ · June 8th, 2008, 02:21 AM

Well...if it's the injection molded "Tusq" type nut, this is a plastic material, but an injection moldable material that mimicks the hardness of bone or Corian or those types of materials. Theorectically, these should function fine. I think the trend to these types of nuts has followed developments in new molding materialsm but the big advantage for the guitar manufacturer, is that the slots can be molded-in, without having to cut them as an additional manual operation. Maybe they tweak them a bit in final assembly, but it's much quicker than cutting a nut for each guitar. I've had bone or Corian nuts put in most of my guitars, so I'll be interested to see how these Squier nuts are.

Mark Davis · June 8th, 2008, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajgus

Thanks for posting, builder. Anyone have an idea when this line will available at my local GC? I'd love to love to play one...

GC might not stock these they never did stock the 50's Classics. If it looks too much like a 52ri the brain dead salesmen at GC will get all confused! LOL

Fatmanstratman · June 8th, 2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by alexpigment

mark, i may end up breaking my logo sanding virginity with this one. put up a fender (or ferden) spaghetti and let her rip... if only i had the knowledge and experience to put the gloss back on the top of it...

Pigment, that's your call, and good luck to you. I have to say though.... for the life of me, I can't think why anyone would want to remove the logo on this SUPERB looking guitar.

I've been reading guitarbuilder's comments and looking at his pics with great interest (thanks so much for your efforts, guitarbuilder....

), and without doubt this looks to one of the best (if not THE best) offerings ever to come out of the Squier stable.

I wasn't going to buy any more Teles, but I'm sure gonna get me one of these. And if its as good as it looks on the pics, I'll be PROUD to keep that Squier logo on it....

This guitar looks SERIOUSLY nice; I don't even see the need for major upgrades, although I can't be sure of that until I get my hands on one. I have a feeling that this is a pretty clever move by Squier - they KNOW that there are going to be many folks out gigging with these babies who are going to have people come up to them and say "Wow!....

.... is that REALLY a Squier??? Looks and sounds just like the real deal".

For once, Mark, I don't agree with you - I don't believe folks WILL rush to mess up a sweet looking headstock - but I DO agree that this could be the biggest selling guitar ever produced by Squier.

kp8 · June 8th, 2008, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatmanstratman

but I DO agree that this could be the biggest selling guitar ever produced by Squier.

Even biggah than the Pink Hello Kitty Strat?

alexpigment · June 8th, 2008, 03:08 AM

good point fatman. this could be the moment at which squier reaches the credibility of epiphone. no one questions the brand when they see a sheraton or a casino. also, i was more or less kidding about the fender logo on the squier. i've got a peavey/squier hybrid that i made with a squier neck on it and i'm pretty proud of it. also, i had a squier standard fat strat MIM from 99 that i used to tour with a lot. every band i was in around that time period, singers would want to borrow it and use it in place of their les pauls (i swear that exact same situation happened quite a few times). god, why the hell did i sell that guitar?!?!?!

tonfarbe · June 8th, 2008, 04:15 AM

The photos look great

As I said on page 1 of this thread: This will be my next Esquire.
Can't wait until these are available over here in Europe.

Mark Davis · June 8th, 2008, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatmanstratman

Pigment, that's your call, and good luck to you. I have to say though.... for the life of me, I can't think why anyone would want to remove the logo on this SUPERB looking guitar.

I've been reading guitarbuilder's comments and looking at his pics with great interest (thanks so much for your efforts, guitarbuilder....

), and without doubt this looks to one of the best (if not THE best) offerings ever to come out of the Squier stable.

I wasn't going to buy any more Teles, but I'm sure gonna get me one of these. And if its as good as it looks on the pics, I'll be PROUD to keep that Squier logo on it....

This guitar looks SERIOUSLY nice; I don't even see the need for major upgrades, although I can't be sure of that until I get my hands on one. I have a feeling that this is a pretty clever move by Squier - they KNOW that there are going to be many folks out gigging with these babies who are going to have people come up to them and say "Wow!....

.... is that REALLY a Squier??? Looks and sounds just like the real deal".

For once, Mark, I don't agree with you - I don't believe folks WILL rush to mess up a sweet looking headstock - but I DO agree that this could be the biggest selling guitar ever produced by Squier.

Ive seen a bunch of Squiers with the logos removed and Fender added and alot of MIJ Teles and Strats with the made in japan or ctafted in japan sanded off. My guess is there will be alot of people trying to make these look like 52's

Hiflyer · June 8th, 2008, 04:46 AM

So here it is !! It looks awesome. The colour seems to be white blonde, not vintage bonde. I think it will look even better with a white PG.
The neck looks like the Allparts ones - the curve of back of the headstock is really really nice, just like the Allparts necks - except that the TR adjustment is at the headstock. Man, for 300$, what a deal !!
Many thanks to you for the pics, guitarbuilder.

Hiflyer · June 8th, 2008, 04:57 AM

Arrrrgh, you american buyers, you lucky !! Not sure they have 'em in stock, but if they do, the Duo-Sonic for 280$ is a good deal:

http://search.stores.ebay.com/billsmusic_classic-vibe_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfromZR10QQfsnZbil lsmusicQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ5064766QQsofpZ0

weelie · June 8th, 2008, 07:39 AM

For the strats, if they land here at 300EUR here, I think I'll go for MIM Classic at 500EUR instead. But as for the tele, I am real anxious to get my hands on one! If they are around 7.25lb or less, that is!

DWBH · June 8th, 2008, 08:16 AM

Why did Squier put poly capacitors on their guitars, and Fender only put ceramic capacitors in my Baja?

guitarbuilder · June 8th, 2008, 08:42 AM

Morning update. The sun is really bright today and I think I am going to amend my guess to a 3 pc. body. It is like looking through a fog but I "think" I see a glue line down by the cutaway. It could be just straight grain though. I can't be totally sure. They did a nice job grain matching.
Also the skunk stripe is an open grained different dark wood ( Walnut, Rosewood, Mystery wood?) and I can see some color variation in it... not painted. The tint of the neck probably browns it up some. Comparing the bridge to a Fender, the corners are a tighter radius and make me think of the cheaper ones you see on the internet. The pickup bobbin looks to be fiberboard and it is wrapped with cotton/string as opposed to a tape. The pole pieces have fine grinding marks across them that leads me to believe that they are magnets and not slugs. I may dismantle the bridge later.
The Quality Control tag says that it was set up at
Low E .55 mm and High E.50 mm at the first fret and 2.0 mm and 1.5 mm at the 12th fret. Dated 080331
Born March 31 2008?
Marty

guitarbuilder · June 8th, 2008, 08:57 AM

Now for the critical numbers on my 20 Year old Radio Shack digital multi-meter:
Cord DC resistance about 27 ohms. It would go lower if I held it longer :-).

Lead pup DC Resistance-8.59Kohms
Neck pup DC Resistance-6.9 Kohms
Middle pups together- 3.90 Kohms

That's about it for now. I don't plan on testing the average mV of the pickups... so get that out of your minds right now.

PJ · June 8th, 2008, 10:01 AM

Interesting that the pots in GuitarBuilder's shots don't look like those typical Asian "minipots." That's a good sign. I'm sure I'd replace the capacitor, since it does impact the guitar's tone if its a low-end cap.
And I think mine would get an Oak or CRL switch while the hood's up.

bowlfreshener · June 8th, 2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWBH

Why did Squier put poly capacitors on their guitars, and Fender only put ceramic capacitors in my Baja?

Probably because the poly ca

June 8th, 2008, 01:29 AM	#281 (permalink)
alexpigment Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 333	you make it sound so easy.... in my head i just imagine bubbles and lumps and color differences. oh man, i'm such a worrier __________________ 72 Tele Deluxe RI walnut, Powerhouse Strat LPB, Palomino V32, Pathfinder 15

June 8th, 2008, 01:46 AM	#283 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	Logo's fine by me. I was more interested to see what a "Synthetic Bone" nut is. Must be the injection-molded nuts, like Tusq-brand? __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

June 8th, 2008, 02:05 AM	#285 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	KP...+1. Has to be better than what I've seen in the past. And hopefully cut correctly (although that's a pretty easy fix with the right tools). __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

June 8th, 2008, 02:07 AM	#286 (permalink)
alexpigment Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 333	KP+2 has anyone ever heard of that type of nut before? it was a first for me __________________ 72 Tele Deluxe RI walnut, Powerhouse Strat LPB, Palomino V32, Pathfinder 15

June 8th, 2008, 02:14 AM	#288 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,846	Ive never seen a good nut on any Fender most are plastic. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

June 8th, 2008, 01:45 AM	#282 (permalink)
telemomo TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 65	After my recent (and only) experience with a new Squire Deluxe Strat I "stole" for $85 off Ebay, I am going to pass on Squires for the next 100 years or so. It was a beautiful Daphne Blue, but it could not stay in tune for a full 60 seconds. The Dimarzio Design pups were pathetic too. The guitar sounded very, very tinny and thin like a toy through my Tophat Club Deluxe. I refer to my Squire Deluxe in past tense because all that is left is the body. I poured over $500 into it (Glendale Chimemaster, Allparts FAT neck, bone nut, Gohto tuners, Texas Specials, CTS pots) and it will still only be a fair Strat at best after it is sorted out better. I envy you guys that get Squires to play and sound to your satisfaction. I have settled on the fact that (for me) Fender MIJ/CIJ's will give me that "fix" I am looking for when I have the urge to buy another guitar. Thank GOD for Fender Japan! Mike

June 8th, 2008, 02:20 AM	#289 (permalink)
ajgus Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: chicago Posts: 2,302	Thanks for posting, builder. Anyone have an idea when this line will available at my local GC? I'd love to love to play one... __________________ "I'm still married to my first wife...and that's my first guitar...she don't talk back to me, she talks for me..." -Stevie ray Vaughan

June 8th, 2008, 02:21 AM	#290 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	Well...if it's the injection molded "Tusq" type nut, this is a plastic material, but an injection moldable material that mimicks the hardness of bone or Corian or those types of materials. Theorectically, these should function fine. I think the trend to these types of nuts has followed developments in new molding materialsm but the big advantage for the guitar manufacturer, is that the slots can be molded-in, without having to cut them as an additional manual operation. Maybe they tweak them a bit in final assembly, but it's much quicker than cutting a nut for each guitar. I've had bone or Corian nuts put in most of my guitars, so I'll be interested to see how these Squier nuts are. __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

June 8th, 2008, 03:08 AM	#294 (permalink)
alexpigment Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 333	good point fatman. this could be the moment at which squier reaches the credibility of epiphone. no one questions the brand when they see a sheraton or a casino. also, i was more or less kidding about the fender logo on the squier. i've got a peavey/squier hybrid that i made with a squier neck on it and i'm pretty proud of it. also, i had a squier standard fat strat MIM from 99 that i used to tour with a lot. every band i was in around that time period, singers would want to borrow it and use it in place of their les pauls (i swear that exact same situation happened quite a few times). god, why the hell did i sell that guitar?!?!?! __________________ 72 Tele Deluxe RI walnut, Powerhouse Strat LPB, Palomino V32, Pathfinder 15

June 8th, 2008, 04:15 AM	#295 (permalink)
tonfarbe Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Berlin, Yer-up Posts: 758 20 Photos	The photos look great As I said on page 1 of this thread: This will be my next Esquire. Can't wait until these are available over here in Europe.

June 8th, 2008, 04:46 AM	#297 (permalink)
Hiflyer Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France Posts: 242 5 Photos	So here it is !! It looks awesome. The colour seems to be white blonde, not vintage bonde. I think it will look even better with a white PG. The neck looks like the Allparts ones - the curve of back of the headstock is really really nice, just like the Allparts necks - except that the TR adjustment is at the headstock. Man, for 300$, what a deal !! Many thanks to you for the pics, guitarbuilder.

June 8th, 2008, 04:57 AM	#298 (permalink)
Hiflyer Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France Posts: 242 5 Photos	Arrrrgh, you american buyers, you lucky !! Not sure they have 'em in stock, but if they do, the Duo-Sonic for 280$ is a good deal: http://search.stores.ebay.com/billsmusic_classic-vibe_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfromZR10QQfsnZbil lsmusicQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ5064766QQsofpZ0

June 8th, 2008, 07:39 AM	#299 (permalink)
weelie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland, Yer-up Age: 34 Posts: 1,958 12 Photos	For the strats, if they land here at 300EUR here, I think I'll go for MIM Classic at 500EUR instead. But as for the tele, I am real anxious to get my hands on one! If they are around 7.25lb or less, that is! __________________ <- I don't need smileys, I'm smiling already.

June 8th, 2008, 08:16 AM	#300 (permalink)
DWBH Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2008 Location: Portugal Age: 17 Posts: 109	Why did Squier put poly capacitors on their guitars, and Fender only put ceramic capacitors in my Baja?

June 8th, 2008, 08:42 AM	#301 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 340	Morning update. The sun is really bright today and I think I am going to amend my guess to a 3 pc. body. It is like looking through a fog but I "think" I see a glue line down by the cutaway. It could be just straight grain though. I can't be totally sure. They did a nice job grain matching. Also the skunk stripe is an open grained different dark wood ( Walnut, Rosewood, Mystery wood?) and I can see some color variation in it... not painted. The tint of the neck probably browns it up some. Comparing the bridge to a Fender, the corners are a tighter radius and make me think of the cheaper ones you see on the internet. The pickup bobbin looks to be fiberboard and it is wrapped with cotton/string as opposed to a tape. The pole pieces have fine grinding marks across them that leads me to believe that they are magnets and not slugs. I may dismantle the bridge later. The Quality Control tag says that it was set up at Low E .55 mm and High E.50 mm at the first fret and 2.0 mm and 1.5 mm at the 12th fret. Dated 080331 Born March 31 2008? Marty

June 8th, 2008, 08:57 AM	#302 (permalink)
guitarbuilder Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hemlock, NY Age: 54 Posts: 340	Now for the critical numbers on my 20 Year old Radio Shack digital multi-meter: Cord DC resistance about 27 ohms. It would go lower if I held it longer :-). Lead pup DC Resistance-8.59Kohms Neck pup DC Resistance-6.9 Kohms Middle pups together- 3.90 Kohms That's about it for now. I don't plan on testing the average mV of the pickups... so get that out of your minds right now.

June 8th, 2008, 10:01 AM	#303 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	Interesting that the pots in GuitarBuilder's shots don't look like those typical Asian "minipots." That's a good sign. I'm sure I'd replace the capacitor, since it does impact the guitar's tone if its a low-end cap. And I think mine would get an Oak or CRL switch while the hood's up. __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."