NEW! Squier Classic Vibe 50's Telecaster! - Page 20

Spunky99 · July 12th, 2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

2 reports of bad bridge plating everyone elses seems ok weird??

I think some people are more picky......my bad.......

Mark Davis · July 12th, 2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky99

I think some people are more picky......my bad.......

Hard to say mine is so perfect the most nit picky person couldnt say anything bad about the bridge plating but these parts are mass produced and they probably have thousands of them in a big barrell they just grab and install Im sure some look perfect and others might have some small flaws.

Everyone here thats posted a pic looks fine to me the guys that say their bridges arent plated right havent posted any pics so we can see what they are talking about yet.

But Im sure someone will get one with loose tuners bad plating on the chrome parts and other flaws they cant all be perfect.

Here is my bridge looks ok to me.

Spunky99 · July 12th, 2008, 02:34 AM

The pickups grow on you....a bit on the hot side for most of my settings tho.

I usually let the amp do the work and I'm having to really work these pups to get some fun tones.. It's all good...I'm feeling the love.....

Mark Davis · July 12th, 2008, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky99

The pickups grow on you....a bit on the hot side for most of my settings tho.

I usually let the amp do the work and I'm having to really work these pups to get some fun tones.. It's all good...I'm feeling the love.....

The bridge is around 8.5-8.7k so its quite a bit hotter than most Tele pickups its alot like the old original Broadcaster pickups. I raised mine up quite a bit till it sounded the best to me.

I almost always change the pickups in all the Fenders I buy Custom Shop MIM and USA and MIJ. I did keep my 60's Classic MIM stock but changed pickups on all others I boughtbut these seem just fine to me. Im afraid if I mess with them they wont sound noiseless anymore! LOL

These are as silent as my Gibsons with humbuckers which is still freaking me out.

Spunky99 · July 12th, 2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

The bridge is around 8.5-8.7k so its quite a bit hotter than most Tele pickups its alot like the old original Broadcaster pickups. I raised mine up quite a bit till it sounded the best to me.

I almost always change the pickups in all the Fenders I buy Custom Shop MIM and USA and MIJ. I did keep my 60's Classic MIM stock but changed pickups on all others I boughtbut these seem just fine to me. Im afraid if I mess with them they wont sound noiseless anymore! LOL

These are as silent as my Gibsons with humbuckers which is still freaking me out.

What about the neck pickup?
I raised mine a lot with the help of surgical tubing. I'm still playing with it and not totally convinced I will replace the pups. There are some really nice sounds I'm getting out of the amp.

kp8 · July 12th, 2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

2 reports of bad bridge plating everyone elses seems ok weird??

Mark,

I am not quite so sure why you are so hell bent on disallowing my experiences with this guitar. I have owned a lot of Fenders in my day, not as much as you, but i am not the moron you seem to think i am. They way you question me and the way you frame your doubts reads as passive aggressive to me and it is really becoming bothersome. You are not the only one on this board who owns this guitar and you are not the only one whose opinion matters. Within the guidelines, everyone is entitled to give voice to their opinions of this instrument. Yet, you seem hell bent on questioning me and discrediting me at every single turn.

When i behold and touch the plated hardware on this guitar and compare it to the plated parts i have from other Fenders and 3rd party vendors, i feel it to be clearly inferior to them and on par with my other plated part on my Squiers and some of my MIMs (like the crummy plated kraft american cheese they put on the car color '69 thinline RIs, 2 of which i owned).

I don't have a PhD in metallurgy. But I don't think there is any way that i can say that this plated is hardware is of the same quality as that on higher priced Fenders.

If i took the parts off and gave made three piles: one from this guitar, one from my '51s and other Squier standard teles, and the other pile from my MIJ, MIA i am pretty sure folks would be able to say which piles belonged together.

That is my impression. It could be that this is made of the best stuff on earth and is better than custom shop and i am totally wrong, but this is my impression. I am not a a doctor of teleology, but i am no dummy either.

Look I love the guitar too, but please stop negating my experience just because it diverges with yours. Alternately, if you are going to insist on bullying me, please step up to the plate and stop insinuating and implying and just spit it out.

Mark Davis · July 12th, 2008, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunky99

What about the neck pickup?
I raised mine a lot with the help of surgical tubing. I'm still playing with it and not totally convinced I will replace the pups. There are some really nice sounds I'm getting out of the amp.

I lowered my neck pickup. They are 6.9k about the same as most Tele necks.

Mark Davis · July 12th, 2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kp8

Mark,

I am not quite so sure why you are so hell bent on disallowing my experiences with this guitar. I have owned a lot of Fenders in my day, not as much as you, but i am not the moron you seem to think i am. They way you question me and the way you frame your doubts reads as passive aggressive to me and it is really becoming bothersome. You are not the only one on this board who owns this guitar and you are not the only one whose opinion matters. Within the guidelines, everyone is entitled to give voice to their opinions of this instrument. Yet, you seem hell bent on questioning me and discrediting me at every single turn.

When i behold and touch the plated hardware on this guitar and compare it to the plated parts i have from other Fenders and 3rd party vendors, i feel it to be clearly inferior to them and on par with my other plated part on my Squiers and some of my MIMs (like the crummy plated kraft american cheese they put on the car color '69 thinline RIs, 2 of which i owned).

I don't have a PhD in metallurgy. But I don't think there is any way that i can say that this plated is hardware is of the same quality as that on higher priced Fenders.

If i took the parts off and gave made three piles: one from this guitar, one from my '51s and other Squier standard teles, and the other pile from my MIJ, MIA i am pretty sure folks would be able to say which piles belonged together.

That is my impression. It could be that this is made of the best stuff on earth and is better than custom shop and i am totally wrong, but this is my impression. I am not a a doctor of teleology, but i am no dummy either.

Look I love the guitar too, but please stop negating my experience just because it diverges with yours. Alternately, if you are going to insist on bullying me, please step up to the plate and stop insinuating and implying and just spit it out.

Read the post a few above where I showed my bridge plate. I said they are mass produced parts some might have bad plating. SO you got one with bad plating and one other person did too but no one else has so far how is that picking on you?? The first time you said your bridge plating was crappy Jellecaster said his wasnt at all and you didnt jump on him.

Like I said these are mass produced guitars some will be great others not so great Im sorry you got a bad one.

I dont know what problem you have with me you think cause I have alot of posts and live in Bakersfield Im special and thats just dumb.

We are all gonna have different opinions on these cause they all arent the same guitar.

I dont normally even reply to things like this but you are the one who has taken offense not me I have no probs with your opinion cause you dont own the same guitar as I do. Yours has bad plating but the rest is fine you can see from my pic mine has what Id call good plating.

I really dont see why your so upset Im not.

kp8 · July 12th, 2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

Read the post a few above where I showed my bridge plate. I said they are mass produced parts some might have bad plating. SO you got one with bad plating and one other person did too but no ole else has so far how isa that picking on you??

Well, i read a lot of eye rolling and grimacing into the tone of your messages, they way in which you questioned point that seemed to imply something.

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

Like I said these are mass produced guitars some will be great others not so great Im sorry you got a bad one.

I am not sure i did get a bad one. It plays and sounds great. The neck and body are awesome and have great fit and finish, the tuners are surprisingly good and the pickups are okay too, but i think the quality of the hardware is merely on par (and does not exceed) the price level of the guitar. The other aspects i find outstanding just as you do.

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

I dont know what problem you havb with me you think cause I have alot of posts and live in Bakersfield Im special and thats just dumb.

That was sarcasm that everyone took literally. I was being ironic.

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

I dont normally even reply to things like this but you are the one who has taken offense not me I have no probs with your opinion cause you dont own the same guitar as I do. YOurs has bad plating but the rest is fine you can see from my pic mine has what Id call good plating.

I really dont see why your so upset Im not.

If you don't see it, well then we will just spin our wheels. No point in belaboring it. Let's not waste the rest of everyone's time then and just move on. I felt like you were slighting me and trying to negate my experiences and bullying me in a passive aggressive way. If you say that is not your intent then I will just chalk it up to a misreading and let it drop.

best,

kevin

kp8 · July 12th, 2008, 03:50 AM

I got the electro-socket in the mail... but still waiting on a couple parts. Tomorrow is my b-day and Sunday i have a benefit concert in MD... then a grant application due... if i get that all put to bed, i'll do the upgrades and post pictures of my VV (i also need to make pictures of my MIA parts caster which now features a Hipshot B-bender, complete with tennisball I LOVE THE hipshot! woo~)

Mark Davis · July 12th, 2008, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kp8

Well, i read a lot of eye rolling and grimacing into the tone of your messages, they way in which you questioned point that seemed to imply something.

I am not sure i did get a bad one. It plays and sounds great. The neck and body are awesome and have great fit and finish, the tuners are surprisingly good and the pickups are okay too, but i think the quality of the hardware is merely on par (and does not exceed) the price level of the guitar. The other aspects i find outstanding just as you do.

That was sarcasm that everyone took literally. I was being ironic.

If you don't see it, well then we will just spin our wheels. No point in belaboring it. Let's not waste the rest of everyone's time then and just move on. I felt like you were slighting me and trying to negate my experiences and bullying me in a passive aggressive way. If you say that is not your intent then I will just chalk it up to a misreading and let it drop.

best,

kevin

You completly mis-read my meassage voice. If you could hear my voice you would know I would never discredit someone elses opinion.

Ive been here for 11 years if I did that everyone would have me on ignore mode! LOL

No probs here with me at all glad you feel the same now too. Im about as far away from a smartass as you can get so if I came off that way Im sorry it was never intended at all.

Kevin Darty · July 12th, 2008, 05:29 PM

Everyone that has the Classic Vibe Tele says it has a thin C neck.

For those that have a MIJ or CIJ 52ri (TL52, TL52-SPL, etc) how would you compare the necks?

I prefer a thicker Chunky C or Soft-V but the C neck on my TL52-SPL isn't bad at all.

I'm just wondering if the CV is ultra thin or what.

Anyone have both to compare?

Jellecaster · July 12th, 2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Darty

Everyone that has the Classic Vibe Tele says it has a thin C neck.

For those that have a MIJ or CIJ 52ri (TL52, TL52-SPL, etc) how would you compare the necks?

I prefer a thicker Chunky C or Soft-V but the C neck on my TL52-SPL isn't bad at all.

I'm just wondering if the CV is ultra thin or what.

Anyone have both to compare?

One thing I've discovered from reading other people's opinions here over the years is that I'm not very picky about Teles - I love em all!

Having said that, I don't find the CV neck ultra thin. I normally like beefier necks, and I'm very happy with the CV. I haven't A/B'd it, but it doesn't feel much different than any other "standard C" neck. For example, I have a couple of the new American Standard Teles - this neck feels the same to me as far as thickness goes - but I haven't measured it.

boris bubbanov · July 12th, 2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellecaster

Having said that, I don't find the CV neck ultra thin. I normally like beefier necks, and I'm very happy with the CV. I haven't A/B'd it, but it doesn't feel much different than any other "standard C" neck. For example, I have a couple of the new American Standard Teles - this neck feels the same to me as far as thickness goes - but I haven't measured it.

American Standard?

Uh-oh, that is thin!

I consider a Highway One neck to be too thin.

Even a Nashville annoys me a lot of the time. I may not eat red meat, but I gotta have my Fatback!

Mark Davis · July 12th, 2008, 09:14 PM

Its thinner than a Nocaster Baja 50's Classic MIM James Burton it feels alot like a MIJ 62ri neck to me not really thin but I wouldnt call if beefy chunky at all.

Im other wotds its not so thin it changes your playing style or causes hand cramps. With the low wide frets its really easy to play for me.

RockinCarl · July 13th, 2008, 12:48 AM

Well I trusted you all. I couldn't find one of these in stores, so I just bought one on Musicians Friend. I've never done that before. But I know if I don't like it (HA HA), I bet I could unload it pretty quickly.

I needed a good but cheap guitar to take to Europe in a few months. I'm glad they came out with these!

Spunky99 · July 13th, 2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

Hard to say mine is so perfect the most nit picky person couldnt say anything bad about the bridge plating but these parts are mass produced and they probably have thousands of them in a big barrell they just grab and install Im sure some look perfect and others might have some small flaws.

Everyone here thats posted a pic looks fine to me the guys that say their bridges arent plated right havent posted any pics so we can see what they are talking about yet.

But Im sure someone will get one with loose tuners bad plating on the chrome parts and other flaws they cant all be perfect.

Here is my bridge looks ok to me.

Here is the orange peal....no big deal....

metulmykul · July 14th, 2008, 08:42 AM

Does anyone in Australia have any idea of pricing?

I just heard from a large store that they may get them next week and be selllng them for $599 :(

I was hoping that they would be a little cheaper...

jazztele · July 14th, 2008, 01:00 PM

wow. 20 pages and i finally realized those brass saddles have string slots...that's different, eh?

RotelliCaster · July 14th, 2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RotelliCaster

The bridge will be the first and maybe the only thing that has to go on this. It has a rough/crappy chrome finish, the saddles are skinny barrels with the intonation screws sticking up between the strings. A Fella or a Gal could snag the sleeve of his or her fav-o-rite western shirt on these.

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Originally Posted by Spunky99

Here is the orange peal....no big deal....

I found the same thing with the chrome on my CV Tele, But I have decided that it's fine just like it is and I have yet to snag a sleeve.
Maybe that's Coz it's short sleeve season here?

Now I'm jonesin for one of the CV Strats

Jake D · July 14th, 2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RockinCarl

Well I trusted you all. I couldn't find one of these in stores, so I just bought one on Musicians Friend. I've never done that before. But I know if I don't like it (HA HA), I bet I could unload it pretty quickly.

I needed a good but cheap guitar to take to Europe in a few months. I'm glad they came out with

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Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,846	Its thinner than a Nocaster Baja 50's Classic MIM James Burton it feels alot like a MIJ 62ri neck to me not really thin but I wouldnt call if beefy chunky at all. Im other wotds its not so thin it changes your playing style or causes hand cramps. With the low wide frets its really easy to play for me. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

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metulmykul Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 326	Does anyone in Australia have any idea of pricing? I just heard from a large store that they may get them next week and be selllng them for $599 :( I was hoping that they would be a little cheaper... __________________ "Amps should have an on/off switch and a fking volume and tone. If you get a really fancy one, it should have reverb on/off..."* S.P Jones

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jazztele Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chicago Age: 29 Posts: 2,198	wow. 20 pages and i finally realized those brass saddles have string slots...that's different, eh? __________________ “For the guitar is the most unpredictable and least reliable musical instrument in existence...and also the sweetest, the warmest, the most delicate, whose melancholic voice awakes in our soul exquisite reveries.” Andres Segovia

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Spunky99 Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Redondo beach Age: 54 Posts: 349	The pickups grow on you....a bit on the hot side for most of my settings tho. I usually let the amp do the work and I'm having to really work these pups to get some fun tones.. It's all good...I'm feeling the love.....

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kp8 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,801	I got the electro-socket in the mail... but still waiting on a couple parts. Tomorrow is my b-day and Sunday i have a benefit concert in MD... then a grant application due... if i get that all put to bed, i'll do the upgrades and post pictures of my VV (i also need to make pictures of my MIA parts caster which now features a Hipshot B-bender, complete with tennisball I LOVE THE hipshot! woo~)

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Kevin Darty Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 36 Posts: 153	Everyone that has the Classic Vibe Tele says it has a thin C neck. For those that have a MIJ or CIJ 52ri (TL52, TL52-SPL, etc) how would you compare the necks? I prefer a thicker Chunky C or Soft-V but the C neck on my TL52-SPL isn't bad at all. I'm just wondering if the CV is ultra thin or what. Anyone have both to compare?

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RockinCarl Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,480	Well I trusted you all. I couldn't find one of these in stores, so I just bought one on Musicians Friend. I've never done that before. But I know if I don't like it (HA HA), I bet I could unload it pretty quickly. I needed a good but cheap guitar to take to Europe in a few months. I'm glad they came out with these!