Fender Missed the Boat... - Page 2

Flat357 · May 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Ninja

I don't really care for Slipknot, but I have to say I love their La Bamba cover.

I wonder whether Paul would mind if I were to swear just once

Elliot Easton · May 16th, 2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ

I guess this is were I jump-off a little on the whole thing. I think this "designed-by" and "endorsement" game has gotten a little off-track. Gibson, in comaprison, offers a few, selective artist models of Les Pauls - Haynes, Betts, Slash, an Angus SG. But it's reserved for pretty elite company. Guys who have been around a long time, playing specific instruments. Different marketing strategy all together.
+1 Bring on the Spinal Tap Lap Steel!

I too have a Gibson Signature model, but I really worked at it to make an instrument that is really personalized and built to different specs than a standard model. I can tell you, at least in my case, it's not just a regular model with my name on it.

PJ · May 16th, 2008, 11:36 PM

I should have certainly put Mr. Easton in the "elite company" list.
My apologies. There are a few others that I shouldn't have missed - Chet Atkins, Garry Moore, BB King and many others.

BroadMaster · May 16th, 2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

He plays in this band called Slipknot.

Warning there is somne rough language in this clip so dont watch it if you are easily offended or there are kids around.

This is slipknot hahah.

OH MY!...... I think I'd wear a mask, too.

I guess that's talented by today's standards...... But, do you reckon they know any Buck Owens, Muddy Waters, Roy Buchanan, Steve Cropper, or Danny Gatton tunes? (just to mention a few) . Not that they'd need to, to be talented mind you. I am just not a fan of the frenzied, no resolution, type of tune.

It will sell guitars to a completely different demographic, though. I'm certain that is the purpose of that particular sig tele.

Just my opinion here, TEHO.

roadrider502 · May 16th, 2008, 11:42 PM

What's up with the masks? I just can't get past it.

esteban · May 16th, 2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot Easton

I too have a Gibson Signature model, but I really worked at it to make an instrument that is really personalized and built to different specs than a standard model. I can tell you, at least in my case, it's not just a regular model with my name on it.

Wait... Elliot Easton?????????? from The Cars???????

PJ · May 16th, 2008, 11:46 PM

I'm not sure if it's THE Elliot Easton, but if that's his handle, I presume
it is. Certainly belongs on the "elite" list, in my book!

Elliot Easton · May 16th, 2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ

I should have certainly put Mr. Easton in the "elite company" list.
My apologies. There are a few others that I shouldn't have missed - Chet Atkins, Garry Moore, BB King and many others.

Please, don't apologize; I was just making the point that my guitar was not a marketing gimmick but an actual different guitar based on some ideas that I had which Gibson dug.

Elliot Easton · May 16th, 2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ

I'm not sure if it's THE Elliot Easton, but if that's his handle, I presume
it is. Certainly belongs on the "elite" list, in my book!

It's really me, or I'm really him, or.....ah, forget it!

PJ · May 16th, 2008, 11:55 PM

Elliot...that was my point, really. That Gibson's "artist" models reflect the artist, their instruments and are more of a tribute to them, than pandering to the fan base.

esteban · May 16th, 2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot Easton

It's really me, or I'm really him, or.....ah, forget it!

Wow, that's really cool. It's so awesome to have "real" guitarists on the TDPRI, arguing about pickguards and maple vs. rosewood.

So what do you think of Jim Root?

alexpigment · May 17th, 2008, 12:02 AM

hell, i never put two and two together with Elliot. he even had the lefty avatar. well nice to be able to talk elliot.

anyway, speaking of gibson artist series guitars, Tom Delonge has one that is really cool looking, and something that you really can't get out of any other gibson model

http://www.gibson.com/products/gibso...omdelonge.html

his fender model was also cool, at least in the style department. it's too bad he doesn't really have the apparent skill (or doesn't show it off) to back it up. not trying to be harsh to Tom or his fans, but I think the music will clearly show that.

mrbdxmpl · May 17th, 2008, 12:13 AM

That video makes me never want to listen to music again...thanks, Mark!

Dacious · May 17th, 2008, 12:14 AM

Maybe these artists were approached and refused? There are thousands of great guitarists of different genres - they can't all have signature axes.

I actually admire Jimmmy Vaughan, for stipulating his guitar should be affordable and MIM, and it comes with sensible upgrades like the Gotohs and fatter neck/flatter radius/bigger frets and his switching scheme, which I like.

One of the best new Fenders of any price range you can buy IMO. I don't like or get Slipknot, but for whatever reason, or maybe rebellion against the BC Rich/Ibanez/Charvel/whoever cabal who market to metal players, some of these guys have modded Teles and Fender has picked up on that.

I don't have to like 'em or play them, but if kids pick them up it can only be good longterm, at least as far as Fender business goes. We only get things like the Custom Shop, FSR and VIntage Reissues or Players guitars because of the kids who buy Squires in reams and the like.

Flat357 · May 17th, 2008, 12:14 AM

shoretyus · May 17th, 2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Ninja

I don't really care for Slipknot, but I have to say I love their La Bamba cover.

OK....I am dizzy now

Fender has to chase endorsements for all kinds of music. Capitalism is based on the growth factor. Leo came up with a rare thing. A product that doesn't change,grow or evolve into something else.

The beauty of the design is of course it's adaptability.

To me the Tele is a very comfortable guitar. So much so that I have never even looked for another electric. After 30 years of owning it I finally did buy another 335 style electric.

I suspect that the Heavy metal guys find it the same. It just feels right.

After having gone through the building process and getting to know all the curves. I can't stop looking at them. I just love the lines.

Leo of course did it right more than once. But the Tele shape was first.

PJ · May 17th, 2008, 12:26 AM

I think the Tele is going through the most rapid growth phase in it's history. Great to see. Shoretyus is right-on. Teles can do it all. And I'm glad Fender's expanding the product line. Better for guys like us, who appreciate them. More jazz players using Teles with humbuckers, as well. I've been thinking about a 335, too. But, maybe it'll be a Tele, with some Mike Stern-type of mods.

Elliot Easton · May 17th, 2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Flat357

Where did you come up with the name Easton ?
Was it your idea or was it suggested to you ?

I beg your pardon?

BroadMaster · May 17th, 2008, 01:57 AM

+1

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Originally Posted by Dacious

Maybe these artists were approached and refused? There are thousands of great guitarists of different genres - they can't all have signature axes.

I actually admire Jimmmy Vaughan, for stipulating his guitar should be affordable and MIM, and it comes with sensible upgrades like the Gotohs and fatter neck/flatter radius/bigger frets and his switching scheme, which I like.

One of the best new Fenders of any price range you can buy IMO. I don't like or get Slipknot, but for whatever reason, or maybe rebellion against the BC Rich/Ibanez/Charvel/whoever cabal who market to metal players, some of these guys have modded Teles and Fender has picked up on that.

I don't have to like 'em or play them, but if kids pick them up it can only be good longterm, at least as far as Fender business goes. We only get things like the Custom Shop, FSR and VIntage Reissues or Players guitars because of the kids who buy Squires in reams and the like.

teletony · May 17th, 2008, 02:12 AM

I'm sure I am in the minority here but I think a "Signature Series" from any company is kinda silly. In my opinion it has gotten way out of hand.

BroadMaster · May 17th, 2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot Easton

I beg your pardon?

Flat... no offense, buddy, but maybe you could ask one of the moderators.
Hey,

Tim is the new MAN in the barrel

, how about him?

Elliot, maybe you could post a current pic of you and silence the 'doubting thomases'. Happy to have your input and experiences to read, here. It's probably, rightfully of little consequence to you. I don't get why folks wonder if it's you.

What........a real star can't have a love for the tele and post like everybody else on this list?????? He's not the only famous person, here. A most pleasant fellow, I might add.

Just my opine.......

PJ · May 17th, 2008, 02:29 AM

There was a terrific article in one of the Guitar mags about six months ago, with a cover story on Elliot, including some details
on his signature SG. It was a good read. Might have been Vintage Guitar, Guitar Collector...one of the those, if I recall.

Chrismeyer · May 17th, 2008, 02:38 AM

PJ,you're right on a couple of things. I WOULD LOVE to have this guitar in Lake Placid Blue with white EMG's .I'm not a Slipnot or Stonesour fan AT ALL.To ME the guitar was exactly what I needed for MY style.I don't give a f*&k if we go back in a time machine,make sure Jim Root was never born,then come back and present this guitar variation to Fender for production so I could still play it without Jim's existance!
The other thing you were dead on about that I was indifferent of when I got the guitar is that a tone pot would absolutely make it better.I would want it out of the way and far from the vol pot,but when you turn down you can tell there's no tone pot.It

May 16th, 2008, 11:36 PM	#43 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	I should have certainly put Mr. Easton in the "elite company" list. My apologies. There are a few others that I shouldn't have missed - Chet Atkins, Garry Moore, BB King and many others. __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

May 16th, 2008, 11:46 PM	#47 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	I'm not sure if it's THE Elliot Easton, but if that's his handle, I presume it is. Certainly belongs on the "elite" list, in my book! __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

May 16th, 2008, 11:55 PM	#50 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	Elliot...that was my point, really. That Gibson's "artist" models reflect the artist, their instruments and are more of a tribute to them, than pandering to the fan base. __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

May 17th, 2008, 12:14 AM	#54 (permalink)
Dacious Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Godzone Posts: 2,612 35 Photos	Maybe these artists were approached and refused? There are thousands of great guitarists of different genres - they can't all have signature axes. I actually admire Jimmmy Vaughan, for stipulating his guitar should be affordable and MIM, and it comes with sensible upgrades like the Gotohs and fatter neck/flatter radius/bigger frets and his switching scheme, which I like. One of the best new Fenders of any price range you can buy IMO. I don't like or get Slipknot, but for whatever reason, or maybe rebellion against the BC Rich/Ibanez/Charvel/whoever cabal who market to metal players, some of these guys have modded Teles and Fender has picked up on that. I don't have to like 'em or play them, but if kids pick them up it can only be good longterm, at least as far as Fender business goes. We only get things like the Custom Shop, FSR and VIntage Reissues or Players guitars because of the kids who buy Squires in reams and the like. __________________ My other Telecaster is a Thinline The Tele Bible, Ch 1, v 10 Love thy Telecaster, covet not thy neighbour's Strat!

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roadrider502 Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: scranton, pa Age: 41 Posts: 227	What's up with the masks? I just can't get past it.

May 17th, 2008, 12:02 AM	#52 (permalink)
alexpigment Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 333	hell, i never put two and two together with Elliot. he even had the lefty avatar. well nice to be able to talk elliot. anyway, speaking of gibson artist series guitars, Tom Delonge has one that is really cool looking, and something that you really can't get out of any other gibson model http://www.gibson.com/products/gibso...omdelonge.html his fender model was also cool, at least in the style department. it's too bad he doesn't really have the apparent skill (or doesn't show it off) to back it up. not trying to be harsh to Tom or his fans, but I think the music will clearly show that.

May 17th, 2008, 12:13 AM	#53 (permalink)
mrbdxmpl Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 43 Posts: 232	That video makes me never want to listen to music again...thanks, Mark!

May 17th, 2008, 12:26 AM	#57 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	I think the Tele is going through the most rapid growth phase in it's history. Great to see. Shoretyus is right-on. Teles can do it all. And I'm glad Fender's expanding the product line. Better for guys like us, who appreciate them. More jazz players using Teles with humbuckers, as well. I've been thinking about a 335, too. But, maybe it'll be a Tele, with some Mike Stern-type of mods. __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."

May 17th, 2008, 02:12 AM	#60 (permalink)
teletony NEW MEMBER! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alabama Age: 44 Posts: 4	I'm sure I am in the minority here but I think a "Signature Series" from any company is kinda silly. In my opinion it has gotten way out of hand.

May 17th, 2008, 02:29 AM	#62 (permalink)
PJ Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,077 4 Photos	There was a terrific article in one of the Guitar mags about six months ago, with a cover story on Elliot, including some details on his signature SG. It was a good read. Might have been Vintage Guitar, Guitar Collector...one of the those, if I recall. __________________ PJ "I don't know if it's art, but I like it."