This has bugged me a while

Peds... · December 17th, 2003, 11:01 PM

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Brutalblues · December 17th, 2003, 11:26 PM

Basswood, Mahogany, Ash, Sen, Alder, or Poplar? I'd be willing to bet that the density of the wood varies enough to make it difficult to set a spec. But I did find that some mention of Torque specs can apply to a Vintique type set up where you are tightening a machine screw into an insert. I think most experienced assemblers trust hand tightening best. Anyone else?

0le FUZZY · December 17th, 2003, 11:51 PM

Tew many variables.

As with all the screws on a TELECASTER, if someone were brave enuff ta set a standard I wood knott abide.

IMHO this iss one of those use-yer-head-dummy thangs and iffin a person don't know or have the feel for it they should knott be a doin it.

I will set this one guideline however and that is NEVER TIGHTEN AS TITE AS YOU KIN or yew'll be sorry.

I usually tighten snug in a cross pattern and after all four are snug 1/4 turn for set but even that has sum margin of error.
---0.F.---

Peds... · December 18th, 2003, 12:07 AM

Ronkirn · December 20th, 2003, 10:55 AM

This is easy... you tighten em enough to hold the neck on...

If it's floppin' around.... they're too lose, and if the wood's crushed, you tightened 'em too tight...

Actually it don;t much matter. If after you get it tightened and reassembled and your sound isn't good, it's probably because you need more practice.

Ron Kinr

Scotland · December 20th, 2003, 11:15 AM

Once you get the torque driver, test the torque on a new 52RI, Fender must have set tolerances and that should give you what you want.

Peds... · December 20th, 2003, 03:22 PM

:P

markophonic · December 20th, 2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Plus, I just love to measure things.

*pounds
*decibels
*ft. candles
*Kelvin color
*ShotsPerMinute

Shots per minute....are we talking ammunition/rounds per minute.....or Tequila

Peds... · December 20th, 2003, 04:25 PM

:P

Bob Rogers · December 20th, 2003, 11:39 PM

There is probably a good deal of distance between "tight enough" and "stripped." All I know is that if I put my Mikata drill on "3" with a charged battery it gets em nice and tight but doesn't strip em. I'd say that once you get em "tight" you don't change the angle much with a bit more torque. But it would be nice to know the correct torque, and it would be a good reason to go out and buy a new tool - "But Shirl, you dont want me to overtighten those neck screws, do you? Peds says it has to be exactly 23.7 ft-lbs of torque. I could ruin the guitar!"

December 17th, 2003, 11:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Peds... Banned Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 300	This has bugged me a while 8)

December 17th, 2003, 11:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brutalblues Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,133	Are we torqueing into Basswood, Mahogany, Ash, Sen, Alder, or Poplar? I'd be willing to bet that the density of the wood varies enough to make it difficult to set a spec. But I did find that some mention of Torque specs can apply to a Vintique type set up where you are tightening a machine screw into an insert. I think most experienced assemblers trust hand tightening best. Anyone else?

December 17th, 2003, 11:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
0le FUZZY Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kolly-forn-knee-ya Posts: 10,001 6 Photos	torque Tew many variables. As with all the screws on a TELECASTER, if someone were brave enuff ta set a standard I wood knott abide. IMHO this iss one of those use-yer-head-dummy thangs and iffin a person don't know or have the feel for it they should knott be a doin it. I will set this one guideline however and that is NEVER TIGHTEN AS TITE AS YOU KIN or yew'll be sorry. I usually tighten snug in a cross pattern and after all four are snug 1/4 turn for set but even that has sum margin of error. ---0.F.---

December 18th, 2003, 12:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Peds... Banned Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 300	Re: Are we torqueing into

December 20th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ronkirn Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 62 Posts: 2,742	Torque.. This is easy... you tighten em enough to hold the neck on... If it's floppin' around.... they're too lose, and if the wood's crushed, you tightened 'em too tight... Actually it don;t much matter. If after you get it tightened and reassembled and your sound isn't good, it's probably because you need more practice. Ron Kinr

December 20th, 2003, 11:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Scotland Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, Yewrup Age: 54 Posts: 6,502 3 Photos	Stupid answer maybe....but Once you get the torque driver, test the torque on a new 52RI, Fender must have set tolerances and that should give you what you want. __________________ All those who believe in psycho-kinesis, raise my hand !

December 20th, 2003, 03:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Peds... Banned Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 300	Re: Torque.. :P

December 20th, 2003, 04:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Peds... Banned Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 300	:P

December 20th, 2003, 11:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bob Rogers Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,710	Let us know. There is probably a good deal of distance between "tight enough" and "stripped." All I know is that if I put my Mikata drill on "3" with a charged battery it gets em nice and tight but doesn't strip em. I'd say that once you get em "tight" you don't change the angle much with a bit more torque. But it would be nice to know the correct torque, and it would be a good reason to go out and buy a new tool - "But Shirl, you dont want me to overtighten those neck screws, do you? Peds says it has to be exactly 23.7 ft-lbs of torque. I could ruin the guitar!"