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tristanavakian · May 27th, 2008, 10:56 PM

It reminds me of an acoustic guitar Taylor made in the early 90's out of an oak pallet from their loading dock. It had nail heads in the top and everything.

It was not for production, they were just showing off. I had a play of it at a NAMM show. It sounded great. It just goes to show -it's not what you got, but what you do with it. Absolutely amazing.

martyb1 · May 30th, 2008, 12:16 AM

Give this a quick sanding before I carry on with more clear

It's obvious that the top on this is never going to have a glass smooth finish.Mind you,the divots give it a nice relic look

Buckocaster51 · May 30th, 2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by martyb1

It's obvious that the top on this is never going to have a glass smooth finish.

What?!

Just pour on more goop!

Is your snow finally gone?

CDR! · May 30th, 2008, 06:00 AM

I wanted to contribute as well throw my two cents into this monster post.

I see a traditional (aged) tone plate but with cigarette liter buttons from a ford or chevy...

I don't know, might not work a pick n pull might have them.

o wait yer in the rural area, oh my bad.

never mind ....

keep going.

I always wanted to have a Zebrawood body and a Birdseye neck Guitar (Tele)
wonder what it would sound like, weight wise too.

Chic Disc Rico

alexpigment · May 30th, 2008, 12:37 PM

i think the front of the guitar looks unique... i'd have to see it fully assembled. the back, on the other hand, is gorgeous. I don't think I've ever seen vertical stripes like that on a sunburst. Anyway, good work

BarryE · June 6th, 2008, 11:50 AM

any updates?

johnnylaw · June 7th, 2008, 09:18 PM

Intrigued. But I'm still more of ans ash man myself.

Looks like a horse race between imagination and skill. Nice work, and thanks for sharing.

charlie chitlin · June 7th, 2008, 10:26 PM

I vote for the door from a fuse box/ breaker box for the pick guard.
Maybe pegboard.
Asphalt shingle?

emailhot · June 7th, 2008, 11:16 PM

hey marty, will the old yellow and black Alberta license plates work as a pick guard? maybe it could fit kinda like a thinline guard? maybe something like this one. http://www.yanktanks.co.uk/plates/albertajhk871.jpg

martyb1 · June 9th, 2008, 02:25 AM

Hmmmmm
I can start to see why OSB is not used for building guitars
We seem to have run into a problem
I'm not sure if it is all the wet weather we have been having or what.This thing was nice and flat to start with.Maybe it has been all the re-finishing this poor thing has went through,not sure.
We seem to have developed a cup in the body.

Like I said I am unsure what made it do this..I am sure I could put a neck on it and it would be playable.The center seems flat still,just the wings have seemed to "Fly south"
Kind of a let down.Maybe I should park my truck on it for a couple days

I am still going to finish it.Even if it just gets used as conversation piece.The neck pocket is still nice and flat.

Ironically,the other one that is all OSB,except for the ash strip is still as flat as a pancake.Mind you it was sealed with lots of lacquer before the wet weather hit

51mike · June 9th, 2008, 09:02 AM

Just say it was "Carved" that way!

HAHA

SatelliteOrders · June 9th, 2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 51mike

Just say it was "Carved" that way!

HAHA

+1

"I meant to do that." -- Pee Wee Herman

telefunk · June 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51mike

Just say it was "Carved" that way!

HAHA

ARCHTOP cool ..

robt57 · June 9th, 2008, 11:12 AM

Just be happy it isn't a concave movement. Is the OSB actually thicker in the middle now? Are you sure the back did not warp and take the OSB with it? To me this is more likely, the back piece shrinking and cupping and the OSB just followed...

Did you throw the straight edge across the back ??

I can just see it now...

Q: "How is the action on that Tele?"
A: "Depends on humidity..."

Q: why do you only play slide when it's raining ??
A: ppfffftt....

Have you considered a dual micro tilt setup??

martyb1 · June 9th, 2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robt57

Just be happy it isn't a concave movement. Is the OSB actually thicker in the middle now? Are you sure the back did not warp and take the OSB with it? To me this is more likely, the back piece shrinking and cupping and the OSB just followed...

Did you throw the straight edge across the back ??

The whole thing has cupped.I can't see the back moving as it is 75+ years old,but,maybe there was enough moisture in the OSB it took some on.Hard to say.I bit disappointing after all the work I have put into this thing.Like I said,I'm sure it can still be used,just not flat any more.

robt57 · June 9th, 2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by martyb1

The whole thing has cupped.I can't see the back moving as it is 75+ years old,but,maybe there was enough moisture in the OSB it took some on.Hard to say.I bit disappointing after all the work I have put into this thing.Like I said,I'm sure it can still be used,just not flat any more.

The back surface shrunk and the distance shortened. Which is what I suspected. So you think it is possible the OSB sponged dampness and the real wood absorbed it and swelled in the middle, or that the outer surface of the back shrunk ??

martyb1 · June 9th, 2008, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robt57

The back surface shrunk and the distance shortened. Which is what I suspected. So you think it is possible the OSB sponged dampness and the real wood absorbed it and swelled in the middle, or that the outer surface of the back shrunk ??

It's really hard to say but probably.The back now has a concave.
Like I said,the one that is made entirely of OSB is still nice and flat

robt57 · June 9th, 2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by martyb1

It's really hard to say but probably.The back now has a concave.
Like I said,the one that is made entirely of OSB is still nice and flat

Well, being in waterproofing I can tell you EVERYthing is a sponge, just to what degree is the question

Either the back has shortened from shrinkage, or the front lengthened from expansion OR BOTH!

Did you have it sitting face down somewhere by chance [like on something that holds moisture more than you considered]

I find myself wondering if your top sponge did not absorb moisture into the routes. Did you seal the routes ??

Sit it on the concrete back side down, and when the cup reverses seal the routes!!! maybe she will stay.

Or sit it out in the sun OSB side up and see if the cup flattens. Then seal every possible face on the front!!!

martyb1 · June 10th, 2008, 06:12 PM

As many coats that are on this it should be sealed.It really erks me it cupped.It might get the belt sander treatment

Buckocaster51 · June 10th, 2008, 07:26 PM

A similar thing happened to me once on a D-18 style acoustic I put together and finished with a water-based lacquer.

I don't understand it completely, but it seems reasonable to me that when we put a water-based finish on a guitar, at least some of the water will be absorbed by the wood.

Sometimes we even aggravate the problem by putting lots of coats on real fast...figuring that if the surface is dry, everything must be dry.

But like I said, I don't have a complete handle on what is going on.

CSS · June 11th, 2008, 12:18 AM

My Wife just rushed me a paper bag to breath into. Ahhh, much better but the image is still there.

shoretyus · June 11th, 2008, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Sometimes we even aggravate the problem by putting lots of coats on real fast...figuring that if the surface is dry, everything must be dry.

But like I said, I don't have a complete handle on what is going on.

You were wrong once. Then you found out that you were wrong

Mack · June 11th, 2008, 06:10 AM

Work faster!!!

I so want to see this thing in its final state!!!

Brilliant... I want one.

Mak.

May 30th, 2008, 12:16 AM	#402 (permalink)
martyb1 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Age: 44 Posts: 1,577 13 Photos	Give this a quick sanding before I carry on with more clear It's obvious that the top on this is never going to have a glass smooth finish.Mind you,the divots give it a nice relic look __________________ Before throwing it out,make sure it's not 16x13x1.75

June 7th, 2008, 09:18 PM	#407 (permalink)
johnnylaw Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New England Age: 51 Posts: 284	Intrigued. But I'm still more of ans ash man myself. Looks like a horse race between imagination and skill. Nice work, and thanks for sharing. __________________ Its not how long you make it, its how you make it long.

June 7th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#408 (permalink)
charlie chitlin Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bucktown, Pa Age: 47 Posts: 2,355	I vote for the door from a fuse box/ breaker box for the pick guard. Maybe pegboard. Asphalt shingle? __________________ Nil illigitimi carborundum http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...6-bf3537901a07

June 7th, 2008, 11:16 PM	#409 (permalink)
emailhot Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leduc, Alberta, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 209 3 Photos	hey marty, will the old yellow and black Alberta license plates work as a pick guard? maybe it could fit kinda like a thinline guard? maybe something like this one. http://www.yanktanks.co.uk/plates/albertajhk871.jpg __________________ Ed Mailhot Modded Squier Vintage Mod now w/4-way and gfs pickups Aria Ad-28c W/b-band nady wireless Vox DA-15 &Crate Palomino V3212

June 9th, 2008, 02:25 AM	#410 (permalink)
martyb1 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Age: 44 Posts: 1,577 13 Photos	Hmmmmm I can start to see why OSB is not used for building guitars We seem to have run into a problem I'm not sure if it is all the wet weather we have been having or what.This thing was nice and flat to start with.Maybe it has been all the re-finishing this poor thing has went through,not sure. We seem to have developed a cup in the body. Like I said I am unsure what made it do this..I am sure I could put a neck on it and it would be playable.The center seems flat still,just the wings have seemed to "Fly south" Kind of a let down.Maybe I should park my truck on it for a couple days I am still going to finish it.Even if it just gets used as conversation piece.The neck pocket is still nice and flat. Ironically,the other one that is all OSB,except for the ash strip is still as flat as a pancake.Mind you it was sealed with lots of lacquer before the wet weather hit __________________ Before throwing it out,make sure it's not 16x13x1.75

May 27th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#401 (permalink)
tristanavakian Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: toronto Posts: 107	It reminds me of an acoustic guitar Taylor made in the early 90's out of an oak pallet from their loading dock. It had nail heads in the top and everything. It was not for production, they were just showing off. I had a play of it at a NAMM show. It sounded great. It just goes to show -it's not what you got, but what you do with it. Absolutely amazing.

May 30th, 2008, 06:00 AM	#404 (permalink)
CDR! TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Davis California USA Planet Earth Posts: 10	I wanted to contribute as well throw my two cents into this monster post. I see a traditional (aged) tone plate but with cigarette liter buttons from a ford or chevy... I don't know, might not work a pick n pull might have them. o wait yer in the rural area, oh my bad. never mind .... keep going. I always wanted to have a Zebrawood body and a Birdseye neck Guitar (Tele) wonder what it would sound like, weight wise too. Chic Disc Rico

May 30th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#405 (permalink)
alexpigment Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin TX Posts: 333	i think the front of the guitar looks unique... i'd have to see it fully assembled. the back, on the other hand, is gorgeous. I don't think I've ever seen vertical stripes like that on a sunburst. Anyway, good work

June 6th, 2008, 11:50 AM	#406 (permalink)
BarryE TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 16	any updates?

June 9th, 2008, 09:02 AM	#411 (permalink)
51mike Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Webster, NY Age: 58 Posts: 624 11 Photos	Just say it was "Carved" that way! HAHA

June 9th, 2008, 11:12 AM	#414 (permalink)
robt57 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lost Yankee in Nashville Age: 51 Posts: 3,716 21 Photos	Just be happy it isn't a concave movement. Is the OSB actually thicker in the middle now? Are you sure the back did not warp and take the OSB with it? To me this is more likely, the back piece shrinking and cupping and the OSB just followed... Did you throw the straight edge across the back ?? I can just see it now... Q: "How is the action on that Tele?" A: "Depends on humidity..." Q: why do you only play slide when it's raining ?? A: ppfffftt.... Have you considered a dual micro tilt setup?? __________________ Leo's Great, Leo's Good, let us thank him for our... Twang!

June 10th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#419 (permalink)
martyb1 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Age: 44 Posts: 1,577 13 Photos	As many coats that are on this it should be sealed.It really erks me it cupped.It might get the belt sander treatment __________________ Before throwing it out,make sure it's not 16x13x1.75

June 10th, 2008, 07:26 PM	#420 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 56 Posts: 5,591 1 Photos	A similar thing happened to me once on a D-18 style acoustic I put together and finished with a water-based lacquer. I don't understand it completely, but it seems reasonable to me that when we put a water-based finish on a guitar, at least some of the water will be absorbed by the wood. Sometimes we even aggravate the problem by putting lots of coats on real fast...figuring that if the surface is dry, everything must be dry. But like I said, I don't have a complete handle on what is going on. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

June 11th, 2008, 12:18 AM	#421 (permalink)
CSS Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC and Augusta, GA Age: 49 Posts: 845 25 Photos	My Wife just rushed me a paper bag to breath into. Ahhh, much better but the image is still there.

June 11th, 2008, 06:10 AM	#423 (permalink)
Mack TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 44	Sheesh... Work faster!!! I so want to see this thing in its final state!!! Brilliant... I want one. Mak.