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Old April 2nd, 2008, 02:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who makes the most accurate single ply white pickguards ?

Callaham ? Allparts ? Fender ? someone else ?

Price is no issue... well, under $100 I guess, so no "vintage" guards.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 02:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 02:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've bought 3 pickguards from WD Music:

4-ply 10-hole Brown Tortoise for AmSe

3-ply 8-hole W/B/W for MIM 60's Classic

1-ply 8-hole White thin for MIM 60's Classic

All perfect ... And very fast delivery too!

http://www.wdmusic.com/fender_teleca...30845_prd1.htm

Beware: The thin white one (late 50's/early 60's) has correct straight edges, not slanting as in picture.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 03:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I ditto the Callaham, for color and cut. Everything he does is correct.
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Accurate to what?
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 03:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If you mean flush against the body, I got one from Warmoth and its perfect. The one I got from Allparts is good, but its not flush where Fender started adding extra screws.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 03:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I bought a white Allparts Esquire guard for an assembly I was doing on a MIM body and neck. It wasn't too bad, but it did need a lot of work to get the neck to fit just right.

I also bought a Callaham parchment Esquire guard. It was perfect.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Accurate to what?
I'm deciding between a 57 replica or a 59/60 replica...same cut, different thickness.
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I'm deciding between a 57 replica or a 59/60 replica...same cut, different thickness.
Aren't they both .060"?
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Aren't they both .060"?

1959/1960 is .080


http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fender2.html#tele

look in the esquire parts rundown for thickness.
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1959/1960 is .080


http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fender2.html#tele

look in the esquire parts rundown for thickness.
Interesting... Did not know that. Were they beveled like the three-ply guards?
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Speaking of pickguards, I have a newbie question.

My American Standard Tele came with a white pickguard. I wanted black so I bought a Fender black p/g from MFriend and replaced the original white.

The black pickguard, it turns out, has a white beveled edge. But when I’ve seen other Teles with original guards (I assume) they are all black, including the edge.

What is the history behind these things? Is there a stock black-only and a stock black and white version?

I would prefer all black. Where is the best (cheapest) place to get one?

(I’d also prefer one without pickup screws in them but I guess that’s impossible.)

Thanks!
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[sorry for stealing the post]

i was actually looking into buying a pickguard for my MIM tele and was wondering.. is it .90 or .60?

i'm a n00b and have no idea what this is for.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 06:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Speaking of pickguards, I have a newbie question.

My American Standard Tele came with a white pickguard. I wanted black so I bought a Fender black p/g from MFriend and replaced the original white.

The black pickguard, it turns out, has a white beveled edge. But when I’ve seen other Teles with original guards (I assume) they are all black, including the edge.

What is the history behind these things? Is there a stock black-only and a stock black and white version?

I would prefer all black. Where is the best (cheapest) place to get one?

(I’d also prefer one without pickup screws in them but I guess that’s impossible.)

Thanks!
Prior to mid-59, single-ply (solid colour) pickguards were used. First came black fibre ones followed by bakelite. In 1954 white, single-ply pickguards became standard. The mid-59 Customs came with 3-ply white-black-white celluloid guards, and by late '63 all standard models came with WBW version, which were made from plastic material after '64. By mid '59 Fender had given up on 5-screw guards for 8-screw ones.

Your "black with white edges" is therefore a 3-ply BWB guard. Single-ply black is easy to find although ones made from bakelite tend to be expensive. Custom shops like Pickguardian will make you anything you want - with or without screw holes - and may not be too pricey.
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Thanks Kevin!

Yeah, I know there are some custom pickguard places and I may go that route.

I was joking a little about the number of screw holes. 'Cause the neck pickup on the modern Teles needs those screws to hold it in place, correct?
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Prior to mid-59, single-ply (solid colour) pickguards were used. First came black fibre ones followed by bakelite. In 1954 white, single-ply pickguards became standard. The mid-59 Customs came with 3-ply white-black-white celluloid guards, and by late '63 all standard models came with WBW version, which were made from plastic material after '64. By mid '59 Fender had given up on 5-screw guards for 8-screw ones.
You are absolutely correct, except that the WBW celluloid guards were actually greyish green because of the nitrate in the celluloid. It's this color that the "Mint Green" guards are trying to replicate. But they were actually SUPPOSED to be white!

The standard Blonde Teles never got a "nitrate guard" though, only the Custom Telecaster and custom colored standard Teles.
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 06:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks Kevin!

Yeah, I know there are some custom pickguard places and I may go that route.

I was joking a little about the number of screw holes. 'Cause the neck pickup on the modern Teles needs those screws to hold it in place, correct?
You're welcome!

And only some of them have a neck pickup screwed to the pickguard.

'Long way from the Ric forum, aren't you?
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Old April 3rd, 2008, 11:55 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I've bought both white and black guards from Fender. The white guard they sell, they say is from the Custom Shop models that use a white 5-hole 1-ply guard. It fit my Mex-Classic perfectly, without any buckling or bowing, as the factory guard did. I've also used the BlackGuard from Fender and I've had a custom guard made by Terrapin Guitars, who is a custom pickguard guy (www.terrapinguitars.com) He also did a great job. The guys, here use the Callaham, which I hear is very good. Other than those three, I haven't used any others. THe white 5-hole 1-plys can be tough to find. Lots of shops do the black, but not the white. A Stew-Mac I tried
didn't line-up with my drilling, so I went with the Fender, and both black and white 1-plys fit very well.
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yup, here's how... First order some White Garolote ( sheet phenolic) from :
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then follow these instructions….: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...light=Garolite


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You're welcome!

'Long way from the Ric forum, aren't you?

Yup.

But I own a Tele as well as a couple of RICs (as well as some others too).

Gotta learn wherever I can.
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But I own a Tele as well as a couple of RICs (as well as some others too).

Gotta learn wherever I can.
Me too!
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