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Old December 26th, 2007, 11:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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GFS wiring diagram for tele

I've noticed some fundamental differences between the tele wiring diagram at the fender wbsite and the GFS tele wiring diagram that came with a set of Pro-tubes that I recently ordered and was wondering if anyone knows if there are actual functional differences between the two.

I've read on this site of a treble bleed mod that simply involves moving a wire around to different lugs between the tone and volume pots and was curious to know if that's what's going on in the GFS wiring schematic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Old December 26th, 2007, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it's just the switch... the GFS switch has 8 lugs in a line, while the traditional fender switches have 4 on each side.
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Old December 26th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply, but...

Thanks for the reply, but I'm more concerned with the actual wiring between the tone and volume pots.

This research isn't actually for a Tele. It's for my '93 Charvel Surfcaster which uses two lipstick tube pickups. In theory, it shouldn't be any different than a tele, with the exception a a les paul style 3-way switch instead of the blade type.

My question is whether the GFS wiring diagram is, in fact, illustrating another take on the treble bleed mod or if I should rewire it according to the posts that have been listed here before.

I do not care to add a resistor/cap mod, I am just wondering if I can gain any more of treble bleed by rewiring it or if it's already functioning as such and I should just leave it alone.
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Old December 26th, 2007, 11:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Are you talking about the GFS Tele wiring diagram below?



There is no treble bypass cap in that diagram, unless you are talking about a different diagram. The fundamental difference in the GFS and a standard Tele wiring diagram is the tone pot. On Fenders, the outside of the tone pot is connected to the signal, and the cap goes from the center (wiper) to ground. The GFS diagram above has the opposite. The signal goes to the center (wiper), and the cap is going from the outer tone pot terminal to ground. It makes no difference which way you do that, and it is functionally the same. However, it is not a good idea to ground the tone cap to the tone pot. All grounds should be connected to one spot. If the tone or volume pot shafts come loose, this could result in a very noisy intermittent conditions.

Oh by the way, the GFS diagram has the neck and bridge positions reversed. The text on the diagram is reversed.
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Old December 27th, 2007, 05:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That is the diagram I was talking about, however..,

... the trble bleed mod I was referring to was one that is a cheived without the use of a second capacitor. I simply involves moving one of the wires to a different lug between the two pots. If that's not what's going on here, I will try that mod the next time I have to change strings on the Surfy. Thanks again for the help.
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Oh by the way, the GFS diagram has the neck and bridge positions reversed. The text on the diagram is reversed.
So are you saying the text on it now is correct, or still reversed from what it should be?
My apologies for reviving this, but I recently purchased a GFS switch.
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I believe the text is correct so you would follow that diagram, id est, holding the switch with the terminals to the left, neck gets wired on top.


Just hook up the wires and try it before soldering, or you could always just flip the switch 180 if it's backwards.......................you can't loose !

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Old March 10th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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or you could always just flip the switch 180 if it's backwards.......................you can't loose !
I can't believe I didn't think of that. haha. You, sir, are a jeanyus.
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Thanks for the compliment, I'm really not that smart, but I get in trouble at times and have become good at putting a spin on things.
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